I'm sorry for what we did, but NOT for what you did.

[mhkohne]

This is just the first time I have ever heard of dye packs being used in a clothing store. Weird.

It used to be a lot more common before RFID tags and the like.

[CarcinogenCrunchies]

Clothing stores in my area used to put them on expensive things like fancy dresses, leather jackets, etc. I remember having to take a formal dress back in the mid-1990s to have the dye pack removed. We didn't try to remove it ourselves because we weren't complete morons, and we didn't insist on compensation for the inconvenience because we weren't assholes.

[Evannah]

This is just the first time I have ever heard of dye packs being used in a clothing store. Weird.

Some branches of the clothing shop I work at has them. We don't, but they are featured in the training manual and from what I gather, some branches have them, others don't.

[alogram]

Do your tags also have the warning printed on them? I think this guy is a moron, but even more so if it clearly says that the ink will leak out if tampered with.

The thing is, mistakes happen. However, in our society, people have become so goddamned entitled that any mistake is UNACCEPTABLE, OMG, GIVE ME MONEY!

[Shalom]

Wait, explosive dye packs in a clothing store?! I can understand these in a bank, but for clothing? Wouldn't they ruin any other clothing in the immediate area if they went off in the store? If you can actually leave the store without them going off, doesn't that make them kind of pointless? Yes, the clothing will be ruined for the shoplifter, but it's still stolen.

The way I see it, it's like the bright colors on a Monarch butterfly. Depending on what leaves they eat, they can become toxic to birds. The bird eats the butterfly, throws up, and remembers that brightly-colored butterflies aren't good to eat.

Yes, that butterfly is dead, but fewer of the rest of them get eaten.

[dakhur]

Pah! Dye packs are only a level 2 annoyance. A little planning, and they can be safely removed inside 5 minutes. The magnetic packs come in with a level 3, along with those electronic things everyone is so keen on.

RFIDs', OTOH, can be quite pesky little buggers to neutralise.

[AnqeiicDemise]

Wow, those tags usually have a warning about tampering and dye exploding everywhere too, so that's some form of special!

[dawnfire]

Wow, those tags usually have a warning about tampering and dye exploding everywhere too, so that's some form of special!

it doesn't stop people trying to remove them at home. there are plenty of YouTube videos out there on how to remove them.

[AnqeiicDemise]

it doesn't stop people trying to remove them at home. there are plenty of YouTube videos out there on how to remove them.

Really? Dayum. I'm so glad I'm not addicted to stealing.

I did have one of those stuck in a floor length wool coat once, though. And I was too annoyed, cranky and irritated to head back out to get it removed (it was the holiday season. Nuh uh. I was NOT dealing with those crowds).

I cut it out and sewed it up. Thankfully but it was in the lining. I just didn't want that ink all over my carpet.

[Dizazter]

We tried to find a store that was even open on the off chance they could remove it but nothing was, so I went to the wedding with the white security tag on my skirt; then went back to the store when I was back home, with the receipt, and pointed out that not only did they forget, but their alarm system did nothing when I left the store or when I carried the skirt back into the store.

This doesn't surprise me. A couple of years ago, I went to a local store that had my favorite, hard to find, work shoes on sale. They only had one pair, so the clerk ordered me another one to be shipped to home. (They were half price to what I had been paying.) When the second pair came, it still had the security tag on it. I had a friend that worked at our local shop and talked to her about bringing it to be removed. I asked why it hadn't gone off when they shipped it out and she told me that they didn't have the sensors at the doors at any of the stores. Why bother??

[rose_metal_nz]

I did some shopping at a clothes store, left, and entered a department store, setting off the alarm. The security guy immediately saw my clothes store shopping bag & sent me straight there. Apparently they hadn't installed the door alarms yet, so they weren't training the staff to remove the security tags

[depechemodefan]

So the guy wanted you to pay to have his carpet cleaned, and you said no. I wish you were the manager at the library.

There is a guy that I don't like who comes to the library. He says he is a lawyer but doesn't know the concept of contracts.

One day he needed to go to the bathroom but it was being cleaned. So he went to the manager, saying the library had to pay his drycleaning since he peed his pants since he couldn't enter the bathroom. Considering there are 6 other men bathrooms in the building, and if he had an Incontinence problem he should wear adult diapers (like other people I know), I call "bullshit".

Of course the manager had the library pay for his suit being cleaned.

[veniteangeli]

Um... someone needs to tell that manager that liability doesn't work that way.

The library is responsible only when its actions cause something that is unavoidable by a reasonable person.

It sucks to have to wait because the toilets are being cleaned, but 99.9% of reasonable, otherwise healthy adults when faced with this situation don't stand there and wet themselves. They either wait until the toilets are finished being cleaned or they go someplace else to pee. And if they can't wait, if there's no time to go someplace else... they shouldn't have left it that long to go, and it isn't the library's fault that the customer isn't listening to their body's cues.

I call the bullshit too. That is some shit to the bull.

My store is pretty amazing at not caving to most bullshit, so I'm pretty lucky.

[prjkt]

Wow, I've never seen that type in any store I've visited. I'm kinda glad, actually. Last year I bought a vacuum and the cashier didn't remove the security device. I'm assuming part of it could have been removed, since the base itself was glued to the box. Once home, I of course had to fiddle with it and set off a shrill and LOUD alarm in my apartment. Late at night. With thin walls. I finally wrapped it in a blanket and covered it in pillows to muffle the sound. Two days later and the damn thing was still buzzing!

I, uh, accidentally, cut one of the wires of a spoder-wrap security device. Those things are loud.
Ended up dumping it in a bucket of water to try to kill it, but it went for hours

[Deevil]

It sucks to have to wait because the toilets are being cleaned, but 99.9% of reasonable, otherwise healthy adults when faced with this situation don't stand there and wet themselves. They either wait until the toilets are finished being cleaned or they go someplace else to pee. And if they can't wait, if there's no time to go someplace else... they shouldn't have left it that long to go, and it isn't the library's fault that the customer isn't listening to their body's cues.

My husband is on medications that can sometimes make him have *maybe* two minutes between the cue to needing to find a toilet and having an anal explosion. There has been a few times that he was unable to make it from one end of the store to the other...or there is only one stall and it was in use. When that happens, he doesn't get mad at the store or restaurant. Also, he will try to clean up after himself as best as he can and apologizes profusely to the people who are working.

(and he would probably kill me if he knew I was posting about his problem)