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    BG: BFF has kidney disease. She's on a low protein diet because of her kidneys. This means most her diet is fruits and vegetables.

    She was in the ER the other day, and the doctor took it upon himself to talk to her about nutrition "because other doctors rarely cover it with their patients." He told her not to eat a lot of fruits and vegetables because "they're mostly air." Then he goes on to tell her to eat oatmeal and a lot of flax seeds. She called him on that "Didn't you JUST tell me not to eat a lot of fruits and vegetables?"

    She's listening to him spew his nutrition BS thinking "This man is trying to kill me!"

    He didn't try to get to know her condition or her diet, or why she might be on a specific diet before he went into his spiel.

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    Other doctors (presumably GP's or specialists) don't always cover that stuff because a hospital can be reasonably be expected to have a proper nutritionist/specialist on-hand to cover this stuff. Maybe yer friend should complain to the hospital higher-ups about this guy and the nonsense he's been dispensing, preferably with the aid of the actual nutritionist.
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    • #3
      Seems like med school should have at least covered the basics better than this guy showed.
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      • #4
        Basics of nutrition: different people have different digestive biocolonies, and therefore need different diets. And that's just the healthy people.
        Thankfully, these are often related to their family histories, and amount (roughly) to:
        * ancestors ate peas porridge, European beans, oatmeal porridge, wheat bread and barley bread.
        * ancestors ate rice and soy and millet.
        * ancestors ate corn (maize) and American beans.
        * ancestors ate yams, bananas, plantains, and taro root.
        * ancestors ate from the wildly varied food sources on the African continent.

        This, of course, being the peasant-level staple foods. Everyone had multiple vegetables and fruits as well as the staples, and everyone who could afford it also had some sort of dairy, eggs and/or meats, and everyone had their fats, oils and sweets.

        And on top of that, there're the hundreds (thousands? millions?) of specialised diets needed due to medical conditions.

        It's no wonder that 'nutritionist' is a specialised field.
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        • #5
          Quoth Akasa View Post
          BG: BFF has kidney disease. She's on a low protein diet because of her kidneys. This means most her diet is fruits and vegetables.

          She was in the ER the other day, and the doctor took it upon himself to talk to her about nutrition "because other doctors rarely cover it with their patients." He told her not to eat a lot of fruits and vegetables because "they're mostly air." Then he goes on to tell her to eat oatmeal and a lot of flax seeds. She called him on that "Didn't you JUST tell me not to eat a lot of fruits and vegetables?"

          She's listening to him spew his nutrition BS thinking "This man is trying to kill me!"

          He didn't try to get to know her condition or her diet, or why she might be on a specific diet before he went into his spiel.
          BFF should make a complaint with the medical director of the ER, or the hospital administrator. That doctor had no business talking about dietary issues in the ER. The ER doesn't have time for that generally, unless the diet is actually related to the ER complaint. Diet is an issue for the attending physician in the community.

          Fruits and vegetables should be a major part of everyone's diet. Meat should be a small part of the diet anyway, mostly for its protein and access to some vitamins not found in plant sources (b12 in particular). Fewer calories means less fat, which is good for your BMI. They are not "air." They are packed with things that are good for you.

          He sounds like a nutjob; the bit about flax seeds was my big clue. Sounds to me he's pushing some kind of pseudoscience. Unfortunately, health care does attract its fair share of charlatans and nuts.

          Your friend should NOT be making ANY kind of dietary changes without talking to her nephrologist first.
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          • #6
            Like they say, 50% of all doctors graduated at the bottom half of their class.
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