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  • Welp, didn't escape the layoffs this time

    Every few years it seems like we go through a round of layoffs. My department has been lucky enough to avoid it for the most part. Usually the ones hit are corporate or salaried employees who have been here years upon years.

    Today we weren't so lucky. Out of the 15 assistant supervisors in my department, seven were let go including myself. When I heard rumors of layoffs this morning I didn't think too much of it. I'm only part time, am underpaid as it is, and 15 asst supes is already below the bare minimum (usually we operate with 25+). I figured we couldn't afford to lose anyone especially with a busy winter season coming up. Then around 11AM I got a lovely call at home from HR letting me know that my position had been terminated and I am no longer to report to work. My ID badge had already been deactivated and if I have any belongings still on the premises I'll need to have an employee bring them out for me. Those unlucky enough to actually be at work when they were told of this were immediately escorted off the property by two security guards. (Which is a little excessive if you ask me)

    No time for goodbyes, nothing. We will get paid two months severance and are free to apply to any internal positions until late December but other than that we're done. It was short and to the point.

    They stressed a few times that this was not based on our performance, and I have to believe that because the seven of us were some of the strongest in our department. Some of the ones kept around are... questionable, to say the least. I love them as people but as workers many of them are the kind who are constantly late, always sitting around doing nothing, and always whining about wanting to quit. The seven of us laid off were some of the hardest working, most dedicated, and most respected of the bunch. It makes no sense. I'm really not trying to sound bitter, everyone is just so confused as to how we of all people were let go. I've heard rumors from past layoffs that supervisors/managers/directors have no say in it and they themselves don't even know who it is going to be until the day of. Something about randomized algorithms on some program that ultimately makes the decision. I really have to believe that.

    I'm mostly just sad. I liked my job, and I was good at it. I've struggled with finding my "place" in life for a long time and I felt like I'd found it there. It wasn't my dream job or anything and I was actually thinking of looking for something new next year anyway. I just wasn't quite ready for how abruptly it ended. I learned and grew so much as a person there over the years. If I compare to how I was when I first got hired to how I am now it's like two completely different people. I made SO many close connections and friendships there. I've never had a lot of friends and I don't have a big family, but I got both of those things while working there. Even if we got irritated with each other we still had the other's back. We always found things to laugh and joke about. 8-12 hour shifts went by in a flash even on the most hectic, stressful days because as a team everyone was so close.

    If you go through my posting history I know it only seems like all I do is bitch and moan about guests, coworkers, management, etc... but I really did like working there. What can I say, I like to vent I guess.

    One good thing coming out of this is the amount of love I've been receiving all day long. I can barely count the number of "WHAT? YOU? Of ALL people?" texts, comments, and messages I've been getting all day. The entire department is devastated about the seven of us getting the axe. We have a Facebook group for shift trades and general chat and it has been blowing up all day with messages of disbelief, grief, anger, love, and support. Most of us had been there for a while and were kind of the veterans of the bunch so we were a constant presence as people came and went. I've heard several people say it's like the heart and soul of the department has been ripped out and many of them don't even want to return to work anymore after this. People that I didn't think even liked me very much have reached out to me about what a huge loss for the department this is. Hell, people who haven't even worked here for months/years have joined the group just to post about how heartbroken they are for the department.

    I always second guess myself. I know I'm a good worker but in my mind I'm never good enough. There were so many times where I thought I'd screwed up royally but instead got massive praise for a strong job performance. We are our own worst critics, after all. This, however, is all tremendous reassurance that my hard work and intent always showed and that I left some kind of impact. I loved getting to know my team members over the years and treating them with kindness, respect, understanding, and now I'm getting it back tenfold. Seeing this outpouring of emotion for me and my fellow fallen assistant supervisors/leads has made this bleak day just a little bit brighter. I'll really just miss everyone and I hope that we are all able to stay in contact.

    (I'm also interested in hearing all the juicy gossip about how things run without us. Many of us were responsible for key tasks such as scheduling, attendance, safety, maintenance, etc... and all that was difficult to get done with even all of us there)

    Now on to something new.

    I know this whole thing probably sounded really dramatic but I'm just so greatly appreciative for everything during my time there and this really does feel like a family has been torn apart. This is truly the end of an era for me.
    Last edited by Totiono; 10-19-2017, 04:13 AM.

  • #2
    That sucks x.x At least you got severance pay, but still...
    and 15 asst supes is already below the bare minimum (usually we operate with 25+)
    This speaks to either extreme randomness, or extreme stupidity (or both) with regards to the folks in charge of layoffs.
    It makes no sense. I'm really not trying to sound bitter, everyone is just so confused as to how we of all people were let go.
    This, and some other things you mentioned, make me think that this is the classic "penny wise and pound foolish" method of canning people -- i.e., Get rid of the people who are reliable and hard-working, because they'll stick around longer and eventually demand raises. This company obviously is willing to set the bar low in order to keep expenses down. After all, they'll probably just tell whoever's left to "work harder or quit."
    What can I say, I like to vent I guess.
    Hey, man, that's what the board is for. Vent away ^_^

    I'm glad to hear that you (and presumably some others affected) are getting so much support -- Keep in touch with those folks; you never know what might turn up!
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    • #3
      This sounds more like they're trying to kill the department, possibly with a view to outsourcing it
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      • #4
        Quoth greek_jester View Post
        This sounds more like they're trying to kill the department, possibly with a view to outsourcing it
        That's exactly what I was thinking when reading this thread.

        I hope you're able to find something bigger and better.
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        • #5
          Turns out three sister departments each also lost nearly half of their assistant supervisors. There could be another round coming up as well, possibly line-levels this time. Today a coworker was in the office when one of our supervisors got a call to "make a list" and he apparently seemed very upset about it. Everyone is on pins and needles thinking that every time the phone rings it'll be their turn. We lost a lot of good people who dedicated years to this place.

          They were ruthless. I know two workers from other departments who are on maternity leave and they both got the call yesterday as well.

          I just received a packet in the mail with all sorts of documents and forms regarding the matter. I didn't do anything wrong but seeing the words "termination of employment" is making me feel like I did. Regardless, I'm interested to see what will become of the department. Our department needs to exist given the nature of our company but it really does seem like they're trying to kill it altogether.

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          • #6
            That happened to me 2 and 1/2 years ago, same way. After 12 years. I ended up with PTSD from that experience, and have anxiety about even leaving the house, and I desperately wish I could just stay home.
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            • #7
              Quoth Totiono View Post

              I just received a packet in the mail with all sorts of documents and forms regarding the matter. I didn't do anything wrong but seeing the words "termination of employment" is making me feel like I did. Regardless, I'm interested to see what will become of the department. Our department needs to exist given the nature of our company but it really does seem like they're trying to kill it altogether.
              Termination of employment just means end; doesn't mean you were actually terminated, aka fired. And my advice, don't fill out and send back anything just yet. Give yourself a few days to let it sink in, and look all that stuff over.

              It stinks though; we had layoffs at my company about 18 months ago, and a good friend had her job "eliminated" due to not enough work, which myself and many feel was just bs for "you don't fit in with your group" As she didn't. They all had similar lifestyles, families etc. and she did not. And was NOT one of the "favorites"

              Funny thing is she did more work than any of them put together.

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              • #8
                Not to bump an old thread but I just have a bit of an update I need to get out. Summary at the bottom, I just have a lot of emotions I need to get out! Also, I want to thank the people here for your support and words. All of you really help put things in perspective.

                A few weeks after the layoffs my company reinstated some of the vacant positions, including mine. Almost the second the applications were posted I was getting calls and texts from my former supervisors urging me to apply. Not only that, but there was one full time position open. Full time positions in my department are exceedingly rare, maybe one every few years or so. It's also very competitive and involves a lengthy, arduous interview process. I've seen several coworkers at the top of their game get repeatedly rejected for full time. I'd accepted that I'd likely never get a full time status there.

                I wasn't having any luck on my job hunt and right now I'm in the process of foreclosure and looking for a new place to live, so I figured "what have I got to lose" and went for it.

                I didn't hear anything from the company for a while. I did get one courtesy call a couple weeks back informing me that they received my application and would contact me at a later date to set up an interview. Since then I've been biting my nails about having to interview for it. I had a lot riding on it and I don't interview particularly well. My severance was also set to end next week and I was really counting on this so with each passing day I was starting to get more and more anxious. Well today I got another call from HR. They informed me that my department heads decided to skip the interview process and offer me the FT position based on my job performance before the layoff. I have an appointment to go in tomorrow morning to sign the acceptance paperwork and set up my benefits package.

                I'm just... elated. Getting laid off when I did turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I don't know how much I fully trust the company as far as job security goes but this gives me a lot of breathing room. I feel completely flattered and honored. I've never heard of anyone just bypassing the interview process, especially for something as serious (to them) as FT.

                Summary:
                Nearly two months after being laid off I was offered my position back but with a full-time promotion/upgrade.

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                • #9
                  Congrats! Glad to hear you landed on your feet! Might wanna let the more reliable among your former CWs kno wthat they're hiring again ...

                  I know two workers from other departments who are on maternity leave and they both got the call yesterday as well.
                  Is...is that even legal?!? o_O
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                  • #10
                    Save every dime you can spare. This company is untrustworthy.
                    Customers should always be served . . . to the nearest great white.

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                    • #11
                      You might even hope that they've actually learned something about tossing away too many workers.

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