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    No, really, I'm at the it point... we have been sold out every weekend since before I started here... we're just a small resort so it doesn't really take that much to happen, but even the big resorts have been selling out, Reno is becoming a somewhat popular destination again apparently. Now, being popular has draw backs.

    How can a place so large sell out
    I get asked this most often by people with Utah IDs... no seriously, I have kept track of the IDs of the people who sign up for players club cards that later go on to ask that question. I get it, Utah is a tourist state so they think they understand hospitality, I used to work in hospitality in Utah, and if we were to put our hotel in Utah we'd take the spot as the 3rd largest hotel in the state, but Utah also has a metric shit ton more small hotels (under 100 rooms) than Nevada has, different markets, they cater to the people who the hotel is a place to sleep, we cater to people who the hotel is their destination. And a lot of them can't wrap their heads around the idea that we are a small place by Nevada standards and we do sell out quickly... this in itself isn't sucky, just kind of annoying to get asked again and again. It does become sucky when the people who ask this (no matter from what state) who will then go on to insult us, our mothers, and our dogs (I don't even have a dog) about how we know nothing about how to run a hotel if we can sell out such a "large" venue (umm... I'd think that means we know a LOT about how to run a hotel thank you very much).

    But I'm a VIP, why didn't you hold a room for me
    Two things, one, no you aren't, I've looked up your trip summary and I have a better revenue potential for the casino than you... okay, so that is a slight exaggeration, but if your net revenue potential is at $50 a day, you are a good customer but you are NOT a high roller or a VIP... come back when your are at $250, $500, or I've even seen $1000 before.
    Second, our actual VIPs know to book in advance... not just to make sure that they get a room, but because we will entertain special requests (like holding a seat at their favorite blackjack table or arrange for their favorite table in the restaurant to be held etc).

    How dare you have such long lines
    I get it, waiting in line sucks, especially here because our queue isn't so much of a queue and more of an orderly mob... which doesn't stay orderly... but what do you want us to do, we have every window open, we are working through guests as quickly as we can... believe you me, you don't want to be checked in in less than 60 seconds, because that means that most likely a mistake was made. And while we can improve the orderliness of our queue (like by actually building one, which we keep asking management for), whining about the wait isn't go to magically make the front desk any bigger.

    But gambling revenue is down in Washoe County
    Yes, and I fail to see how this relates to how many rooms we have. Locals especially have cut back and the people who do visit don't spend as much money on each visit, but that doesn't meen that people have stopped coming here as much... in fact in many cases they are coming here more (why pay to fly from the bay area to Vegas when Reno is a short drive... and in Reno you don't have to feel guilt over exploiting native tribes... and before we devolve into a Fratching debate on Indian gaming and its effects on the tribes, that is one of the most common reasons I get from people coming here, so we can leave it at that).

    I know you're sold out but...
    Oh these people drive me bonkers.
    I know you're sold out, but can you move me to a different room that overlooks the parking lot.
    No, we have no other rooms.
    I know you're sold out, but can you move me to a different room closer to the casino.
    No, we have no other rooms.
    I know you're sold out, but can you move me to a different room further from the ice machine.
    No, we have no other rooms.
    Seriously people, sold out means NO OTHER ROOMS. This shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp.

    Well, has anyone not shown up yet
    Yes, we have had people who haven't shown up yet. No, you can't have their room. We have already charged them for the first night room and tax, and as they have paid for that already we have to hold it for them. And yes, I have seen people check in as late as 4am... they have a good night in the casino and just don't get around to checking into their hotel room until they are ready to go to sleep, not as uncommon as you'd think. No, I almost never see people cancel this late... because either they are in the casino and have no intention of cancelling, or they know they've paid for it already and if they are paying for it either way, then screw it, calling to cancel looks an awful lot like work.

    What if I paid you $100 to cancel one of them
    GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY LOBBY!

    That rate is outrageous
    When we do get a cancellation, you'd be amazed at how much people bitch about how much we are charging for it. Yes, it's a lot, and yes, I know someone will pay it. By the way, the comparable hotels to us tonight are charging more than that by the way, so please, feel free to take your business there, because the room will be gone by the time you get back and realize how reasonable we are compared to the even bigger resorts.

    But why is it so much more expensive on weekends
    Why yes, we can give you a rate of $30 Sunday through Thursday... because our average occupancy (and all the big resorts are in the same boat) is around 30% and we'll do anything to get people into the hotel and on the casino floor... tonight the casino is overflowing and we don't have to practically give away rooms to get people in here gambling.

    well can you recommend someone else
    No, no I can't. Everything on this side of the county is sold out. If you want I can recommend some stuff over in Sparks, the South Meadows, or if you are really desperate I know of a hotel in Carson that has availability. I'm sorry that none of those options are close enough for you, but guess what, that is the reality of the weekend in Reno, especially weekends that are also holidays... better get used to it because it isn't likely to change in the near future.
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    Take out the casino-specific stuff and that...all of that...repeat that here, and yes.

    Especially complaining of the outrageous rates. If you're selling out, then the rate is not outrageous. The rate's probably about right for the market. (We're one of the more expensive [our brand] in the company and our target market is highly price sensitive, so I get this one all the time.)
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    • #3
      Smiley, after all these years, haven't you learned how to magic a new room straight through construction to completion out of your ass!? UNACCEPTABLE!
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      • #4
        Quoth KhirasHY View Post
        Smiley, after all these years, haven't you learned how to magic a new room straight through construction to completion out of your ass!? UNACCEPTABLE!
        Of course, then the customer complains about how bad the room smells, and the awful brown color scheme.

        SC
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        • #5
          Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
          (umm... I'd think that means we know a LOT about how to run a hotel thank you very much).
          Indeed We used to get people balking at our tech support and (especially) CPA prices at AccountingFirm...At some point, we looked up area surveys and found that we were UNDERcharging by a good $20 an hour as compared to the local "average price". So, the boss upped the prices to match the average, we lost a few no-hopers, and increased profits overall.

          But I'm a VIP, why didn't you hold a room for me
          You keep using that word...I no think it means wha' you think it means...

          I know you're sold out but...
          We are OUT of SWEET ROLLS!!!!
          well can you recommend someone else
          Got this a lot at DaddyJim's Pizza...or worse, people asking us for the competition's phone number >_> If they were outside of our delivery area, we could maybe point them in the right direction..But in our area?? STFU and don't call back.
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          • #6
            You "know nothing" about running a hotel, even though the hotel in question is booked full?

            Hold on, let me channel the Gord and come up with an appropriately witty comeback as a way to state the obvious


            I also like the SC's mentality that giving you ANY money at all means they're a VIP. Yeah, you haggled, moaned, complained, asked for a manager and told me we sucked, but in the end, we made a buck off you, so we should be happy to make you a VIP.... Said it before, but, REAL VIP's don't have to even use the word.
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            • #7
              Quoth Argabarga View Post
              Said it before, but, REAL VIP's don't have to even use the word.
              Exactly. Experienced customer-facing workers (basically, almost everyone here) knows who their VIPs (and probably doctors or lawyers or ACTUAL relatives-of-the-owner) are. If you have to say that you're a big spender, chances are, you're not. Most likely the high-end of the low-rollers, like that guy was.

              Not that there's anything wrong with us low-rollers It's just best to acknowledge it, and not lie about it to get one's way (tho, sadly, it works far too often)...
              "For a musician, the SNES sound engine is like using Crayola Crayons. Nobuo Uematsu used Crayola Crayons to paint the Sistine Chapel." - Jeremy Jahns (re: "Dancing Mad")
              "The difference between an amateur and a master is that the master has failed way more times." - JoCat
              "Thinking is difficult, therefore let the herd pronounce judgment!" ~ Carl Jung
              "There's burning bridges, and then there's the lake just to fill it with gasoline." - Wiccy, reddit
              "Retail is a cruel master, and could very well be the most educational time of many people's lives, in its own twisted way." - me
              "Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down...tell you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens...makes her a home." - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds, "Serenity" (2005)
              Acts of Gord – Read it, Learn it, Love it!
              "Our psychic powers only work if the customer has a mind to read." - me

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              • #8
                What the hell is wrong with these people?? There's one simple concept that will solve their problem, no, actually PREVENT their problem from ever happening. It's called "making a reservation." IN ADVANCE.

                I really don't get the people who think you are somehow not providing good service if you're sold out. It's a hotel. You rent rooms. If you're sold out, you must be doing something RIGHT. Even if you did "hold some back" eventually those would be gone, too.
                When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                • #9
                  Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
                  What if I paid you $100 to cancel one of them
                  GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY LOBBY!
                  Dear gods, I can't believe that someone would actually try to pull something so stupid - though I know deep down that it can and likely DOES happen... >_<
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                  Roses are red,
                  I bequeath to thee...
                  A boot to the head >_>

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                  • #10
                    Quoth EricKei View Post
                    Exactly. Experienced customer-facing workers (basically, almost everyone here) knows who their VIPs (and probably doctors or lawyers or ACTUAL relatives-of-the-owner) are. If you have to say that you're a big spender, chances are, you're not. Most likely the high-end of the low-rollers, like that guy was.
                    Kind of like being famous. If you have to say it of yourself, you really aren't.

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                    • #11
                      I know you're sold out but...
                      So essentially, they want you to MOVE SOMEONE ELSE OUT OF THEIR ROOM and let them into it, and they know this. Oh EWs, is there no end to your self-centeredness?

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                      • #12
                        Quoth MaseMan View Post
                        Kind of like being famous. If you have to say it of yourself, you really aren't.
                        not that it'd matter even if someone was famous. I figure, treat everyone politely and you can't go far wrong. ( from what I've seen, it seems to work. I have a terrible time matching names to faces, but the higher-ups at my work ( I don't really deal with customers) don't complain.

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