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  • Yeah, we just paid you $75K to help with bills because you're a valued customer...

    Some people don't understand how insurance works.

    Now, let me explain quickly how insurance works. Insurance is supposed to bring you back to whole. It is not supposed to leave you in a BETTER position nor a worse position. Principle of Indemnity)

    When I was working in the agency in the Midwest, we had a person who had had a fire in their kitchen. Everything was destroyed and even though I wasn't working solely on claims, I still dealt with them.

    I had been a go between for both the insured and the agent who seemed to be having a hard time connecting.

    One quiet day, I got a call from the insured who was frantic because the contractor was going to put a lien on their house because he hadn't been paid from the insurance company.

    Since the house was paid off, there was no mortgage company on the checks for repair. If there is a damage to the structure and a mortgage is present, the check must be made out to both parties.

    I told the insured that I would call the adjuster and find out what the story was and why a check wasn't issued. I got a hold of the adjuster and he had issued a payment directly to the insured for about $75,000*. So I found out when it was mailed, how it was mailed and if it was cashed and who he talked to. Then I called the insured back.

    I asked if they got a check for the $75k and the insured said they did. I asked if they cashed it and they said yes. So I asked what the problem was, that was the amount of the repairs minus the deductible.

    He said the repair man was waiting for the check from the insurance company to be paid. I told him that check was for the repair man and that the adjuster had mentioned it both in the letter and had conveyed it in a phone call.

    I asked what happened to the check since it had been cashed by Mrs. Insured on X day. The insured was silent for a minute and then said, "We thought it was for loss of use and meal reimbursement, so we paid off all our debts and then bought *big ticket items*". 1. Loss of use is determined by the adjuster depending on how displaced the family is. 2. Usually meal allowance is "reasonable" meals around $20 a person per meal. Give or take. But I have NEVER seen a loss of use/meal claim for that amount, especially when the insured is still living in the house!

    I was dumbfounded. I asked the insured if he had any of those things before the fire and he stated that he had not. So I asked why in the world we would send him a check for him to buy all these things and to pay down his debt in addition to paying for the repairs in full- making his claim over $150K (about 1/2 the value of his home).

    He then admitted he never read the letter with the check and had no idea what it was for, but assumed he could spend it how he wanted. Technically, yes, but one would think that if we sent a check for the exact amount of repairs it would be for that. And if I was getting a check for $75K, I'd sure call and see why in the heck I was getting that amount instead of spending it!

    After spending about 30 minutes explaining to him that the check was meant for that and faxing him a copy of the letter that was with the check he finally understood. Just before I hung up I asked, "Is there anything else I can help you with today?"

    He then says, "Yes, so when will you send a check to the guy? He's going to put a lien on our house and we need to prevent that! We already told him that you were going to send a check to him directly! And we don't have an extra $75K lying around to pay him off in full."



    I said, "Sir, there is nothing more we can do for you. We've already sent you a check for the repairs, Mrs. Insured cashed it so we cannot send out another one to you. If you did not pay the contractor with the check we sent, then you will need to take up payment plans with him."

    I wanted to say, "Sir you'll see another payment from us when "

    *I don't remember the exact amount but it was a larger sum somewhere between $50-$100K that was owed to the contractor.
    Last edited by Gothicsmurf; 04-28-2008, 08:02 PM.
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    I've got one word fot that guy...

    Dumbass.

    If I had dealt with that, I think I would've started laughing!
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    • #3
      Wow. What a putz. I wanna know why the hell he didn't bother to read the stupid letter! I read everything that comes with checks! I mean, hello! Taxes?!?
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      • #4
        Actually I think he claimed the letter that came with the check was blank, or didn't explain what the money was for. Something along those lines.

        Regardless I don't know a single intelligent person who'd get a check for that amount and NOT check on it.

        Heck I got a $3.25 check from my insurance company and I called to ask why. (I over paid my premium and it was renewing)

        Bottom line, no matter what the stakes are, I think we've learned that (Say it with me folks!) CUSTOMER'S DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ!
        Last edited by Gothicsmurf; 04-28-2008, 08:49 PM.
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        • #5
          Quoth InsuranceGuru View Post
          I said, "Sir, there is nothing more we can do for you. We've already sent you a check for the repairs, Mrs. Insured cashed it so we cannot send out another one to you. If you did not pay the contractor with the check we sent, then you will need to take up payment plans with him."
          So do you think you finally got it through his thick skull? If so, how did he take it?

          It pains me a little to know that someone so dumb could own a home worth $300,000.

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          • #6
            Well, even if the guy was oh, let's say, intelligent enough .... Couldn't he make his own repairs (granted, if the repairs met safety standards) and save some cash that way? Or maybe, spend the money and make the kitchen slightly nicer?


            But, hey, cashing a $75,000 check without looking to see what it's for is in a completely different league of stupid.
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            • #7
              He probably didn't want to admit he used the money to pay Matthew Lesko's "Free Money for life/college/from the government (etc)" books.

              How stupid "yeah, your insurance company likes you so much we're just giving you money to shit with."
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              • #8
                that guys a total moron

                but Boozy, in most urban areas $300k will barely get you a condo, $300k could be a nice big house in a rural area, or it could be a dump in a city or most places near a coast, where the mortgage on a $300k house would be the same as rent on anything big enough for 2 people to live in. or maybe he fell and sued

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                • #9
                  Quoth InsuranceGuru View Post
                  Now, let me explain quickly how insurance works. Insurance is supposed to bring you back to whole.
                  Excuse me while I laugh for a few minutes.

                  ......

                  Sorry. The only insurance I've ever dealt with was when the dipshit in the Exploder ruined my Volvo. And while the check they sent me was nice, it wasn't nearly enough to cover buying another car of the same quality (it was old, but it was in outstanding condition), and the fact that they cut off the rental car before I ever received the check.... No, I'm not bitter at all.

                  But your guy. He's a real winner. How the hell can you get a huge check and just spend it so frivolously when you have a contractor rebuilding part of your house?

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                  • #10
                    IDIOT.

                    *Whacks nose with rolled up newspaper*

                    BAD BOY! What made you think you'd get free money, eh?!

                    Once again, my brain hurts.
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                    • #11
                      but assumed he could spend it how he wanted
                      Well, sure, if you want to live with a burnt out kitchen..!
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                      • #12
                        Yes, the "made whole" thing is laughable. I've never been made whole by insurance payouts.

                        On the other hand, this guy is a total moron. What was he expecting next, a check for his pain and suffering?
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                        • #13
                          He probably burned down his kitchen by trying to put out a grease fire with more grease. Loss of use. People like that deserve to eat at McDonalds for as long as it takes, like the guy in Supersize-Me.
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                          • #14
                            I assume most people are like this, frankly. Most people I know don't know how the hell to manage money. I'm really surprised he used it to pay off debts in addition to buying a bunch of expensive stuff.

                            This is how most of my friends would handle the situation.

                            1. Friend with, let's say, $10,000 of debt.
                            2. Give Friend $10,000.
                            3. Friend has $9,000 debt, a new plasma TV, nice stereo system, and an Xbox with tons of games.

                            Also, in Indiana, even here in the capital, $300,000 would buy a super kick-ass house. And out in the super small town I grew up in? Oh man, mansion.
                            Although, no, it wouldn't do that in Boston or San Fransisco or whatever.
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                            • #15
                              Our house was hit by lightining several years ago. It destroyed the well (about 8K) siding ($500) electrical repairs/inspection ($700) and about $600 of electronics and a bunch of inspections to confirm everything is safe. we were able to live in the house, minus regular water for a day (we used a garden hose from a neighbor) Insurance issued us a check for the exact value of the well and inspections, but estimates for the electronics. Because of a great sale we were able to get a nicer TV and surround sound system for less money the insurance thought. We decided to spend the extra money and get a nice dinner. But we only spent the leftover money AFTER all the repairs were made and the bills paid.

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