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    If any of you are friends with me on facebook, you've probably already seen most of this, but I need to vent.
    I should be doing deep cleaning on "my" house (yeah, mine, which explains why my name is not on the deed, even with the owners being family, it has been really nice making them wealthy while I get to occupy a house) for the annual inspection, but right now I'm having trouble getting motivated to do anything but cry.

    I love the house I'm in, as in the house itself... and the owner is willing to negotiate a lease to own option... but when I say I love the house, there is a disclaimer *but I'd love it more if it was in a better neighborhood. The neighborhood I'm in is dying, in many meanings of the word. The average age here is "graduated with Methusala", the homes aren't being maintained as well, we all know that a large portion of the subdivision is going to be immanent domained in a few years to build a new highway (most likely the house I'm in won't be affected, you know, beyond now being right next to a highway), and frankly we are at the intersection of middle and nowhere, there will never be mixed use development in the area, there will never be high enough population density for the transit authority to extend transit services out here, we will always be car dependent, so every time gas prices go up, our property values go down. The school zoning is horrible, the elementary school that is currently zoned is massively overcrowded, the school they want to rezone to isn't even in the same valley... the school has decent test scores, but with the areas that it mostly pulls students from, I'd fear for the safety of children of a same sex couple, the middle school is still so new that it doesn't have data on the test scores and the high school is mediocre at best. And as the property values continue to drop in this area as gentrification continues (because it will, my generation and younger find the suburbs to be oppressively boring and inconvenient and a massive waste of money on commute as fuel prices continue to rise with no indication that it will ever stop).

    The problem is that I am stuck here, I will probably end up doing lease to own, because it is my only option. Right now I can't afford anything other than a short sale, and now that the economy is getting better (ironically a requirement of me even being able to afford a short sale), short sales are getting increasingly harder to find. The housing market is literally improving faster than I can save money, and it will be years before I can consider looking for a better paying job (raises where I work now are few and far between, I love the job, it is a great company and they pay well, but the rule of thumb is plan on cost of living raises at best). I need years, because without years of experience, no one will touch you, I only got the job I have now because I am grossly over educated for it. My husband may be able to move up some at his company, but not much (he works in packaging at a manufacturing company, he may be able to move up to QA or a lead, but that isn't much of a pay raise). There were a few places that seemed far too good to be true, they would have all required a lot of sweet equity, but I'm willing to do that, but they all had offers put onto them before I could get pre-qualified, and now there are literally no short sales coming on the market, none, zero, in the last month, not a single short sale (at least not any that aren't in areas even worse than where I am now), I missed my window of opportunity and the downside of the economy improving is that the likelihood of that window ever opening again is decreasing as every day passes that another one doesn't get listed. I know I could try my luck on one of the public auctions, but you don't even get to see the inside of the house before those, that is far too much risk for me to take.

    So, here I am, sitting trying to get myself to care about this house that isn't mine, and I really don't want to be (which I hate to say, it used to be my grandma's house, and I wish that it wasn't in a dying neighborhood, I would give anything I could to not condemn her home to the slow decay of the American suburbs) because I know that I have no other choice but to impress the landlord because I'm never going anywhere. I know I need to do it, but knowing I need to do it only makes me more depressed and want to do it even less.

    And, just to make things worse, it would be one thing if I was just leasing my home, I know a lot of people do that, even a lot of wealthy people (granted, the wealthy people who lease rather than own are mostly stupid people who only got their money by inheriting it), but I literally have nothing of value to my name, and in the most humiliating way possible. I lease my home from a family trust that my mother is 1/3 owner of. Both of my cars are leased from my mother. My kitchen appliances (that didn't come with the house) were gifts from my mother. My bed and furniture in the house are either things that my mother was going to get rid of anyway and let me take or were gifts from her. My computer, a gift to help with school. My PS3 was a Christmas gift from my mother. The only things in this home that were gifts from or leased to me by my mother are the food we have, the cleaning supplies we have, one TV that I bought, another that I won in a contest, and the light bulbs... I'd say our clothes, but half of that was gifts too. There is quite nothing of value that I can claim to be my own, and while I appreciate the help my mom gave me, I know that when she is 80, she will damn the day she gave birth to me and made her feel obligated to help me by the very act of being born.

    It is humiliating that in 6 months I will be turning 28, and every shred of evidence will show me to be a pathetic mammas boy who never made anything for himself. Even my college degree was mostly paid for either by taxpayers or her help. Damnit, I just want something to be mine. I want something that I can say "I earned that." I want to finally become a god damned adult rather than an overgrown child. And right now, it's looking like as I approach my 29th birthday, I'll still be waiting for that day to come.
    Last edited by Peppergirl; 04-04-2014, 05:08 AM. Reason: Added page breaks for ease of reading.
    If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

  • #2
    SmileyEagle, I really, really sympathize. I grew up in the house my grandparents owned. I lived there until I was 47 years old, watching the neighborhood deteriorate around me. It was very scary. Our house was broken into a couple of times. It was me, one of my sisters and our mom, and none of us had much in the way of savings.

    I'm going to recommend NACA again. If your credit is decent (doesn't have to be perfect) and you have a steady income, seriously---check them out. They work with people at all income levels, but the organization was started as a result of winning a lawsuit against redlining - the practice of intentionally keeping certain groups of people from buying houses. If it wasn't for NACA, I would not have been able to buy a house in a million years. We had only my income to factor into it; I did not want to count in my mom's Social Security and as she died less than two years later, it was a good decision (my income fluctuates due to an incentive program we have at work, but my base pay is around $30/yr).

    They work with the bank and a real estate lawyer. When I bought, I used the realtor they recommended (and he was dynamite) but you can usually choose your own. You don't need a big down payment; the down payment is rolled into the cost of the house. All you do is put up "earnest money." The amount I had to put up was less than $4000, and I got some of it back. My interest rate was one point below the average at the time. They help you every step of the way.

    If you're in a major city, it's worth checking to see if they can help.
    When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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    • #3
      I wish the NACA operated here, but the closest offices are Oakland (not sure they will work cross state lines anyway) and Las Vegas. Nevada has its own program that is similar, but it has explicit exceptions for not being available in Reno or Las Vegas (I could use it in Sparks, if I wanted a longer commute and frankly a lower quality of life... seriously, there is a reason I live in Reno and not Sparks).
      If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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      • #4
        Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
        I'd fear for the safety of children of a same sex couple
        Honestly, regardless of the area, I'd say that fears in that area are going to be a lot easier to deal with moving forward. The times, they are a-changin', as they say. If nothing else, if anyone asks any angry questions, just show them this gif and say "this is how being gay works." Following up with maniacal laughter always helps.



        As far as the money situation, don't beat yourself up about getting help paying for college education...the alternatives are either not having gone, or being in crushing student loan debt forever, so write that one off as a "dodged that bullet" sort of thing and be happy. Money isn't everything, so be happy with where you're at and the rest should come over time. As a neurotic, I can tell you that obsessing about it won't help.

        And god, oh god, am I neurotic.



        See?
        "That's too bad. Hospitals aren't fun to fight through."
        "What IS fun to fight through?"
        "Gardens. Electronics shops. Antique stores, but only if they're classy."

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        • #5
          Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
          It is humiliating that in 6 months I will be turning 28, and every shred of evidence will show me to be a pathetic mammas boy who never made anything for himself. Even my college degree was mostly paid for either by taxpayers or her help. Damnit, I just want something to be mine. I want something that I can say "I earned that." I want to finally become a god damned adult rather than an overgrown child. And right now, it's looking like as I approach my 29th birthday, I'll still be waiting for that day to come.
          I get where you're coming from. I'm 28 in a couple weeks, and Kabe's 29 soon after that.

          We just bought our first house out of necessity, not proper planning (needed space because of baby).

          We're trying desperately to keep our finances under control (new house + harsh winter = unprepared budget).

          And having my mom constantly harping on things I'm buying for my child doesn't help.

          Neither does only having part-time employment.

          But I just try to take one day at a time. We buy the things we need. Occasionally, we buy the things we want. And we try not to let life get us down because we have each other.

          It'll get better. It generally does. Just keep looking for the opportunities you can, right?
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          • #6
            I'm currently 28. We currently rent to own from my wife's dad in a kind of run down neighbourhood. Why? My wife refuses to drive so we needed a school within walking distance.

            Now I used to make $140k a year. But my ex took off with my kid so I moved from Alberta to BC where I met my wife, and took a 40k a year pay cut. Ended up going bankrupt before I moved because my ex trashed everything I owned and took the $80,000 I had in savings, I couldn't even find a real estate company that wanted the trailer I'd paid $180,000 for ( yay oilfield housing) so I had credit issues on top of it.

            Right now I've got my job, my 2009 civic SI that I pay on still and a house that I'll be working on forever to make it "nice".

            But. We have two great kids (moving here I see my son way more. Plus my step daughter lives with us). We've got a nice yard, I've got a good job that is alright.

            I find life is just a series of moments. I did what I had to do and am where I am. I feel under accomplished for my age. But right now I'm sitting in my car, smoking a great big cigar and just appreciating the hour I'm gonna happily sit out here smoking and reading a book.

            Find your happy moments, appreciate them and think about them when you're having a rough time do what you have to do so you have a roof and job, then make time to be happy. You'll be fine. I wish I could have bought a bigger house in a nicer neighbourhood, but the trials and steps I took to make this my home is my way of creating my own unique under dog story to tell my grand children some day

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            • #7
              Quoth KhirasHY View Post

              As far as the money situation, don't beat yourself up about getting help paying for college education...the alternatives are either not having gone, or being in crushing student loan debt forever, so write that one off as a "dodged that bullet" sort of thing and be happy.
              There are days that I think crushing debt would be better. I'm not going to pretend I'm not grateful for the help I got, I'm not going to pretend that I don't consider myself incredibly lucky... but, I know that nothing is free, the help my mother gave me was at the expense of her retirement savings. She sacrificed her future for mine, and unlike student loans, that is something I can't even hope to ever pay back, I will have to live with her working until she no longer physically can and never truly being able to enjoy retirement because she gave it up for me. Yeah, there is a slight chance that things will get good enough that I can afford to fund her retirement, but honestly, I'm not seeing that ever being a reality. I know that I have very good job security where I am, but I don't see opportunities to move up (ironically, that I can't move up is what gives me job security, thanks to the bad economy getting lucky in the casino has gone from a way to get ahead to being the only way to get ahead).
              If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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              • #8
                Smiley, try to focus on now. Right here and now. Not how you got there, or where you're going or where you want to go. Just now. You're alive, you're in reasonably good health, you have a partner you can depend on, you're on good terms with at least some of your family.

                So you're not exactly where you want to be. So what? At 29, you are probably, at most, one third of the way through your lifespan. You CANNOT assume that 5 or 10 years from now you'll be in the same place. Think about this- as the economy continues to improve (if it does, no guarantees), then in a year or two or three you and/or your partner will be able to shop around for a better paying job.

                Be GLAD you don't have student loans to contend with on top of everything else. My ex husband took out some student loans to cover what scholarships wouldn't way back when we were both young and went to college. He's STILL, almost 20 years later got them hanging over him and screwing up his credit and finances, with no end in sight. He can't even think about trying to buy a home.

                And on the matter of stuff... Well, I think George Carlin had a pretty good take on that.
                You're only delaying the inevitable, you run at your own expense. The repo man gets paid to chase you. ~Argabarga

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                • #9
                  Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
                  I wish the NACA operated here, but the closest offices are Oakland (not sure they will work cross state lines anyway) and Las Vegas. Nevada has its own program that is similar, but it has explicit exceptions for not being available in Reno or Las Vegas (I could use it in Sparks, if I wanted a longer commute and frankly a lower quality of life... seriously, there is a reason I live in Reno and not Sparks).
                  Ah, I see. Damn. I honestly don't know if they cross state lines; I'm guessing not but who knows.

                  The advice the others are giving has a lot of merit, though. We get where you're coming from, but sometimes it's good to take a step back and try to live in the moment for a bit. Hang in there and keep your eyes open, you never know what good opportunity might come along. I was 47 when I bought my house; if anyone had asked me a couple years before that if I was ever going to buy my own house, I'd have thought they were crazy. I truly never thought it could happen, but I was wrong.
                  When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                  • #10
                    As far as things you can do, in thinking about it for a bit, you can start slowly building up your options over time. Presumably, the casino offers 401k options, that's a good place to start building up some investment for later. If you haven't already, you should apply for a credit card (one with no annual fee), not to spend a lot, but just to get purchase history going: buy gas, immediately pay it off, etc. A few years of responsible use will give you a nice credit score, all the better to apply for a lone with. Your partner (if you have one, I can't remember?) should do the same...that way, when you can legally marry in Nevada (and if you WANT to marry ;p), you can apply jointly.

                    There are also good ways to save up extra cash, if you think you're not really making enough on your own. Learning to cook at home, and making your own meals there, is probably one of the best decisions you can make. I don't know if you get free meals from work, but if not, just consider this: for the cost of a sandwich from Subway, plus maybe a dollar, you could make sandwiches for 5-6 days. A package of chicken breast filets cooked up right can run less than 1/3 the cost of a restaurant, and even less than some fast food. Etc. Bigoven.com and allrecipes.com will help with that.

                    To put it in perspective, I'm 31 and still rent a house with friends just to lower costs...there is nothing wrong with not owning a house at 30, you do what you can. There are things in your life that are more important than that.

                    SO, if you want to be prepared for not only your future, but your mother's as well, it's going to take some work...but that isn't really surprising when you think about it. Starting is the hardest part, and it involves some sacrifice: putting away so much every month into savings in order to forcibly start the process, for instance. Talking to a financial adviser can help a lot, since they can help break down your income vs. expenses, and give you a good idea of how/where to start. You're still young enough that you have a lot of potential growth to be made through things like stocks, bonds, and so on. Just don't give in to hopelessness.

                    "That's too bad. Hospitals aren't fun to fight through."
                    "What IS fun to fight through?"
                    "Gardens. Electronics shops. Antique stores, but only if they're classy."

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                    • #11
                      I'll be 54 this year. Never owned a house and probably never will. I live in a small apartment and don't make a lot of money.
                      The only difference is, I'm happy. I had a lousy childhood (most of which I don't even remember) and never expected to live this long. And when i was younger, didn't want to.

                      I have a friend who makes well over 100K per year, owns a beautiful home and is miserable all the time.

                      It's a matter of what you want out of life versus what you have.

                      I want to be happy and I am because I don't want much. Probably because what I DO have is more than I ever thought I WOULD have.
                      "All I've ever learned from love was how to shoot somebody who out-drew ya"

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