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  • #16
    "We can fit another 100 people in here and feed them, right?"

    "Sure. That's an extra $1000, cash up front. I'll Google the location of the nearest Mickey D's, aannnd...There we go, honey, 100 Happy Meals are on their way over. Gimme your wallet."
    When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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    • #17
      Usually a lurker here, due to lack of retail experience, but this thread reminds me of two experiences.

      Bad caterer counts:

      My wife and I hired a local restauranteur (a local 'celebrity chef') for our wedding reception and provided guest counts. The big day came, and even though the counts were accurate... uh... we ran out of food. He just didn't deliver enough, and we had to order pizza delivery to keep the crowd fed.

      Sucky guests:

      My brother and I co-hosted a large reception for our parent's 60th wedding anniversary. This included formal invitations with RSVP cards. We received most of the cards, tried to call the rest to catch stragglers, and submitted the total to the hotel.

      Then on the grand day, a set of out-of-state cousins (whom we'd been unable to reach) not only show up without an RSVP, but brought UNINVITED NON-FAMILY GUESTS OF THEIR OWN.

      Fortunately, considering the total number of guests, there was enough food to go around, but had there not been, I would have had no problem in escorting the offending parties out the front door.

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      • #18
        Wow. It rained hard on my wedding and six people no showed. My counts were perfect and I placed color coded cards in front of each guest with name and name of what they ordered months in advance (we gave 7 meal options because so many dietary restrictions.) the 6 meals fed the staff that was hired to serve and they sat and ate with us once everyone was served. It was so much fun. My host adored me and I him because I made sure anyone not reserved had to order off the menus and pay for their own meals at the restaurant hosting us. My father, my husband and myself all paid the tip somehow. They kept chasing us to return money. We were all severely tipsy and insisted they kept the tip. It was the best party and we still see every one who served or hosted us monthly. It was great.

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        • #19
          Quoth notalwaysright View Post
          I wonder how this person can argue with the signed contract? I mean, I don't doubt that he will, but how will he say it in court? "I shouldn't have to pay because the food was bad" would be hard to prove I think.
          Best guess: He'll claim he called ahead of time to tell the Owner about the additions. Which he did, but he was wildly inaccurate about it. Unfortunately my friend didn't think to record the call and there were no text messages or emails exchanged on the matter so it may boil down to a he said/he said.
          "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

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          • #20
            Quoth Aislin View Post
            Wow. It rained hard on my wedding
            Isn't it ironic, don't you think?
            To right the countless wrongs of our days... We shine this light of true redemption, that this place may become as paradise...Oh, what a wonderful world such would be...

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            • #21
              Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
              Best guess: He'll claim he called ahead of time to tell the Owner about the additions. Which he did, but he was wildly inaccurate about it. Unfortunately my friend didn't think to record the call and there were no text messages or emails exchanged on the matter so it may boil down to a he said/he said.
              But wouldn't the court have to look at the last signed document, which would be for over 100 people less? I suppose I'm unclear on which has more weight; a verbal contract or a written one.

              At the roofing co, a customer was supposed to write and initial their color choice on the signed proposal. (or type it, if emailed) If they hadn't chosen the color at that time we asked that they email their choice or (for some of the people who don't like email) we'd come by and have them sign in person. We were pretty firm on not allowing them to just call and say "Georgetown Gray" because later they could FREAK and say it was the wrong gray! And claim they said "Granite Gray." Fun times.
              Replace anger management with stupidity management.

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              • #22
                Quoth Mr Hero View Post
                Isn't it ironic, don't you think?
                A little too ironic.
                PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

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                • #23
                  Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
                  A little too ironic.
                  Yeah, I really do think.
                  Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                  "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                  • #24
                    Quoth notalwaysright View Post
                    But wouldn't the court have to look at the last signed document, which would be for over 100 people less? I suppose I'm unclear on which has more weight; a verbal contract or a written one.
                    Legally, you can't make a verbal change to a written contract. So your first statement is correct.
                    The fact that jellyfish have survived for 650 million years despite not having brains gives hope to many people.

                    You would have to be incredibly dense for the world to revolve around you.

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                    • #25
                      Quoth notalwaysright View Post
                      I suppose I'm unclear on which has more weight; a verbal contract or a written one.
                      According to this scale I have here, a written contract weighs more.

                      Seriously, a written contract is much easier to present in court. With a dispute over a verbal contract, you have to go through the whole "he said/he said" routine. With a written contract, you just submit it as evidence and "here, read it".

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                      • #26
                        Quoth notalwaysright View Post
                        I wonder how this person can argue with the signed contract? I mean, I don't doubt that he will, but how will he say it in court? "I shouldn't have to pay because the food was bad" would be hard to prove I think.
                        I wonder if "Daddy Dearest" will attempt to claim that only the agreed upon 200 (plus the 20 person buffer agreed upon and probably in writing) showed, and that they did not have enough food to satisfy the contract?

                        What proof is there of that additional hundred after all?

                        Yes, I am a cynical bitch,why do you ask? :-)
                        "Hi, this is Silver. How may I lose my self respect in order to cater to your over- inflated ego today?" --- Silverrb

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                        • #27
                          If the one thing I learned not only from Judge Judy but also from this site is that you need to have written proof (document, document, document!) that such and such happened. Otherwise, you know, dear ol' dad is screwed.
                          Eh, one day I'll have something useful here. Until then, have a cookie or two.

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                          • #28
                            "If it's not on paper it never happened."

                            One of the assignments in my "Police Procedure 101" class was writing incident reports which were then--unbeknownst to everyone--presented as evidence in the mock trial. Technically you could have presented a case, but only if multiple reports were allowed and the jury was really sharp (most of them were missing different details, so it took 6 to present a mostly-accurate picture).
                            "I am quite confident that I do exist."
                            "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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                            • #29
                              this is why my first wedding was very simple and a potluck. Second one will be too.
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                              Great YouTube channel check it out!

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                              • #30
                                Quoth telecom_goddess View Post
                                this is why my first wedding was very simple and a potluck. Second one will be too.
                                I did a potluck wedding also! We risked an outdoor wedding (with a reserved shelter that would have at least given us a roof, if not the best in comfort, if it rained), rented chairs, rented my husband's tux, and my parents bought a used dress for me. Asked everyone we knew to bring their cameras and send us copies of any pictures (out of a few thousand amateur photos, you can find a good 100 to put in the album). Both the minister and Priest&Priestess were friends who didn't mind working together for the duel-religion ceremony, and we were able to give them hand-made stained glass made by my grandfather. An Aunt made the wedding cake for us, since we didn't need anything fancy.

                                All in all, we were only about $100 out of pocket, which is what we needed since we didn't have the money for anything more.

                                Can't say I would have done it any different today now that I could afford more.

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