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    So I got an Outlook invitation on Thursday afternoon (around 2pm) to a meeting with my manager & the country manager; scheduled for 4pm.
    Get upstairs at 4pm, walk into the office, they close the door and say "We're letting you go"
    All they would say is "we don't think you're a good fit"
    I didn't get any warnings, I asked what I could do to improve and they said nothing.
    As I still had a day or two (which I find suspicious) left of my 90 day probation/trial thing, they don't have to give me anything, but they gave me this week off as garden leave.
    So I came into work Friday, and found that nobody had even been told.
    I kept it quiet, told a few people as they were leaving the after-work drinks, and that's about it.
    My manager just said, "this isn't what I had in mind for you" and "this is for the best" so ... I don't know. My co-workers think he didn't have anything to do with the decision.
    I'm pretty much still shocked over it all.
    Back to job-hunting it is....
    Ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum! - Don't you dare erase my hard disk!

    This is Tech Support, not Customer Service.
    What's the difference?
    We're allowed to tell you "no".

  • #2
    That sucks, a lot. Good luck.

    Brings to mind something that happened here not too long ago. I got a call to drive one of the assistant managers of a local Big Hat Sliced Beef Sandwich Chain to a meeting. She didn't know what the topic was, and at the time, it wasn't really important.

    A few days later, I happened to drive by her store. It was closed. I can just imagine the subject of that meeting...
    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, you speak with the Fraud department. -- CrazedClerkthe2nd
    OW! Rolled my eyes too hard, saw my brain. -- Seanette
    she seems to top me in crazy, and I'm enough crazy for my family. -- Cooper
    Yes, I am evil. What's your point? -- Jester

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    • #3
      I'm sorry. Good luck on your job search!

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      • #4
        I'm really sorry

        Good luck in your job search.

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        • #5
          Sorry to hear that They wouldn't say what you could do to improve because they're covering their asses legally. I've seen it before.
          When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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          • #6
            As much as I hate to say it, chances are they planned to dump you just before the 90 day grace period from square one. Ever since that new 'law' came into effect, so many employers have been abusing it here, to get cheap employment and as long as they let the staff member go BEFORE the 90 days is up, they don't have to give any kind of severence/redundancy.

            One of the managerial jobs I was in a while back, they tried to dump the job on me to fire someone that was sitting a week short of the 90 day mark and I basically said "No, you do your own dirty work - this person has done a TERRIFIC job since they started working here, as far as I am concerned, they have EVERY RIGHT to retain the job. If you want to get rid of them to save yourself a couple of weeks redundancy, do it yourself."

            That being said, I'll keep an eye out and if I see anything that might be up your alley, I'll PM you. Heck, I'd consider hiring you myself as part of my bodycare business, but things are far too quiet at the moment and I can't afford any extra staff besides myself
            Last edited by Kagato; 08-06-2014, 03:10 PM.
            Violets are blue,
            Roses are red,
            I bequeath to thee...
            A boot to the head >_>

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            • #7
              Quoth Kagato View Post
              As much as I hate to say it, chances are they planned to dump you just before the 90 day grace period from square one. Ever since that new 'law' came into effect, so many employers have been abusing it here, to get cheap employment and as long as they let the staff member go BEFORE the 90 days is up, they don't have to give any kind of severence/redundancy.
              Honestly, I'm suspicious of the same thing from reading the OP.

              The same thing happened to me in one of my nursing jobs. The hospital had just lost its open heart surgeon because they couldn't afford his salary; the open heart unit (that was the hospital's bread and butter) shut down.

              I'd known the whole deal was in negotiations and not going well. I also knew my manager managed both the OR and the SICU. I asked her if I had to worry about my job (I worked in the ER). She said no, my job performance was fine.

              Fast forward a couple of weeks. I show up to the computer lab for some mandatory training to find the room empty. I call the IT guy and he sounds surprised to hear from me. "You better call your manager."

              I call her and ask what's up and THAT was when she pulled me in her office and fired me for cause . . . only the excuse she gave me wasn't what happened, and wasn't a termination offense even if it was. I had NO write ups or verbal warnings. It was pretty obvious she was uncomfortable about the whole thing and making shit up as she went on . . . while I'm crying my eyes out because I had only been there six weeks, and I really needed that job, and I knew my previous employer was not likely to hire me back (not that I was a bad employee, but my old boss was very upset when I quit to take advantage of what should have been a better opportunity for better pay, and no long commute to work).

              Then I had to deal with the humiliation of having security escort me to my locker to clean it out. My co workers watched in stunned silence; they didn't know I was getting fired until it happened.

              Found out later from a friend still working there that the manager needed my position to give hours to the ICU nurses with seniority who weren't working after the heart surgeon left. She couldn't find cause, so she made shit up to get me out of my job for those other nurses.

              I was able to use that to get my termination changed from "Fired with cause, not eligible for rehire" to "Reduction in work force, eligible for rehire" (laid off, basically). However, since I was still on probation, I wasn't eligible for severance.

              It mattered. With a fired for cause on my employment record I would not have been able to get another job in that state, and I HAD to work. By getting that fixed, I was able to find another job (I was right the old boss refused to hire me back, even though she hadn't filled my position yet) . . . but it took me about a month. Never did get my damn unemployment though.

              Rose, the point is find out if they fired you for cause and if you can use them as a reference. If they are claiming for cause, you can't get unemployment (you might be eligible), and you may find it effects your job search. If they claim cause, write a firm but polite letter demanding they change it to Eligible for Rehire and give you a good reference.
              They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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              • #8
                During the 90 day "trial period" they can lay off new employees for ANY reason Sapphire, doesn't matter if they breached contract or not. They can simply say "You're not what we're looking for, clean out your desk" and it is perfectly legal. The way the law is set up, unless it is counted as discrimination, the employee has no legal recourse whatsoever.
                Violets are blue,
                Roses are red,
                I bequeath to thee...
                A boot to the head >_>

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                • #9
                  Quoth Kagato View Post
                  During the 90 day "trial period" they can lay off new employees for ANY reason Sapphire, doesn't matter if they breached contract or not. They can simply say "You're not what we're looking for, clean out your desk" and it is perfectly legal. The way the law is set up, unless it is counted as discrimination, the employee has no legal recourse whatsoever.
                  Yup, this is exactly what happened. As of Monday (just been) I would've been fulltime, on contract, AND getting paid $5K/annum more. So yeah, I think it's partly that I came in, did the job too well, and worked myself out of a job and partly that they didn't want to keep paying me.

                  At least they've promised me good references and surprise surprise - there's been outages this week, and one of the guys is off on a course. So they're operating at 50% capacity I can't help but feel I know how they could fix that...
                  Ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum! - Don't you dare erase my hard disk!

                  This is Tech Support, not Customer Service.
                  What's the difference?
                  We're allowed to tell you "no".

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                  • #10
                    I doubt the "too well" factored into it very much. I'm willing to bet it was almost entirely "oh crap, it's day 89."
                    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, you speak with the Fraud department. -- CrazedClerkthe2nd
                    OW! Rolled my eyes too hard, saw my brain. -- Seanette
                    she seems to top me in crazy, and I'm enough crazy for my family. -- Cooper
                    Yes, I am evil. What's your point? -- Jester

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                    • #11
                      I know you probably already have checked but was the 90 days in your employment agreement? My current jon didn't inlucde it and my previous one included it with additoanl rules (must be told why and given a chance to improve.

                      Either way I am sorry it happened but yay for a reference at least.

                      Also something I only recent found out about the 90 day trail peroid is that it can only be for the first time you are employed by an employer. If you are ever rehired they can't use it.

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                      • #12
                        The cynical side of me also sides with Kagato. I'd say we have openings here (from memory you were in a technical job with a ISP/Comms company recently , been a while since I chatted to you) but that'd be a relocation to Wgtn (Again, I think your in the SI - Don't worry everyone else, this is all NZ speak XD ) - I'll keep an ear out for you for anything going down that way.
                        "On a scale of 1 to banana, whats your favourite colour of the alphabet?"
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