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    So the head chef at The Bar asked me yesterday if I knew anything about baseball cards. While I collected them as a kid (mid to late Seventies), I really don't know much about them now. But out of curiousity, I asked why he was asking.

    Well, his father had died recently, and his mother had given Chef his father's baseball cards, of which there were quite a few, all in damn good shape. As he's telling me this, I immediately start crunching the numbers in my head. Chef is in his early sixties or so. Which means his father had to be in his eighties. When precisely were these cards from? There might be a good chance at some seriously valuable stuff here. So, would I do some research for him? Sure. But if I was gonna spend my time on this, if there was any money to be made, I should get a cut. 10% seemed fair. And I looked forward to this morning when he'd drop off the collection and I'd go through it.

    Fast forward to this morning. Two cigar boxes with baseball cards dropped off. I put on gloves to avoid damaging any of these potential treasures. And I start going through them, initially making a list from the smaller box, organizing them by year and manufacturer, and within that alphabetically by player, but as I got to the larger box, I realized it might be better to just sort them by year and maker first, and see if an thing stood out.

    Once that task was done, and I had about eight piles of cards, I started doing some online research. And....pretty much watched the roof cave in. Because all of these cards were from 1990-1992. (When did Dad start collecting baseball cards, in his sixties?!?) And my online research told me that as card collecting started to take off as a serious business in the mid-Eighties, card makers started to glut the market from the late Eigthies through the early Nineties. In short, I was staring at piles of worthless baseball cards, valuable only to someone who liked them for what they were, but not anything that was going to enable the purchase of anything valuable. Hell, these cards probably weren't worth enough to buy a taco.

    *sigh* Ten percent of nothing is nothing. Damn.

    On the bright side, there were some 1992 cards featuring Nolan Ryan, my favorite pitcher, and Chef agreed to let me have those. He asked for a bottle of vodka in return (a pint, maybe?), and while I think that's overcharging me (especially considering the two hours of work I did that I'll never get back), I want those cards, and he's a hell of a nice guy, so why not? So I'll be returning the cards to him, with a bit of hooch, and I'll get those Nolan Ryan cards.

    Oh, well. Back to enjoying my Sunday off, minus any large commission for found treasures.

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    Still A Customer."


  • #2
    It wasn't much better back in the "Good ol days" of card collecting.

    I ended up in possession of some 1960's baseball cards around the time of the collecting craze peaked in the late 80's/early 90's, only to find they were worthless too. Worth about a buck a piece, some less, in a lot of about 20.

    And adjusted for inflation, they're probably even worth less now that the bottom's fallen out of the market.

    It was insanity back then, people were convinced that they would be sending their kids to college AND buying a Ferarri AND a beachfront house on only the strength of their baseball card collections, if only they could keep them MINT for 25 years....

    Fast forward those 25 years, and who out there even KNOWS where their card collection went?

    They were our generation's Beanie Babies craze, or rampant comic book collection craze..... you'd think people would learn.

    So, anyone want to buy a tulip?*


    *mega bonus points if you get that reference.
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    • #3
      Quoth Jester View Post
      Nolan Ryan, my favorite pitcher
      I would've thought your favorite pitcher was the kind that contains your favorite beer.

      Realtalk, Ryan is one of my favorite pitchers, too. I got the chance to see him when I still lived in Maryland. It was in 1992, the year that Oriole Park at Camden Yards opened, and I got to skip school that day for a friend's birthday, since his "party" was attending an Orioles game, against the Texas Rangers.

      I got to see Cal Ripkin Jr. hit his first home run in Camden Yards off of Nolan Ryan. That was pretty cool.
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      • #4
        I'm not much into idolizing individual players, and I know that Ryan as a person has his flaws and issues. But as a pitcher? Please. One of the few baseball players I will collect stuff of. Still irritated about being outbid at a silent auction fundraiser a couple years ago for a Nolan Ryan autographed baseball. Especially because the guy who outbid me as a total jerk, and a total jerk about how he was going about it. (The details aren't important, but suffice it to say I was not alone in my opinion of the guy.)

        A few years ago, before he got tainted with accusations about steroids, many talking heads were voicing their opinions that Roger Clemens should be considered as the greatest pitcher of all time. Of course, that's died down since then, but at the time, I was dumbfounded. Because, in my opinion, as long as Nolan Ryan existed, no one else could possibly claim that role. Certainly no one who hadn't eclipsed his numerous records. Most strikeouts all time. The next closest person is almost a thousand behind. Most no hitters of all time, at 7. No one else has more than 4. Most strikeouts in a single season in the modern era. Etc, etc, etc. He had his flaws, but over his 27 year Hall of Fame career, the Ryan Express was one of the most feared flamethrowers in the game. So yeah, he gets some space on my wall.

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        • #5
          I like Nolan Ryan too, and I agree that he is one of the best pitchers of all time, but as a Tiger fan I have to tip my cap to Jack Morris. However, Jack Morris didn't pound the shit out of Robin Ventura in 1993, which I still watch on YouTube from time to time.

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          • #6
            Quoth cewfa View Post
            I like Nolan Ryan too, and I agree that he is one of the best pitchers of all time, but as a Tiger fan I have to tip my cap to Jack Morris. However, Jack Morris didn't pound the shit out of Robin Ventura in 1993, which I still watch on YouTube from time to time.
            Aside from pornography, it's the only thing the internet gives us that we actually need. And maybe the occasional funny cat video.

            In fact, I think I'll watch it right now.

            Wait for it......


            Wait for it.........


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            • #7
              Quoth Argabarga View Post
              They were our generation's Beanie Babies craze, or rampant comic book collection craze..... you'd think people would learn.

              So, anyone want to buy a tulip?*


              *mega bonus points if you get that reference.
              Tulipmania. You're probably familiar with the stereotypical picture of a house with a row of flowers in front of it. At the peak of a speculative bubble in Holland during the mid-1630s, if those flowers were tulips, even if it were a fancy house in a rich neighbourhood, the flowers would be "worth" (in the sense of what someone would be willing to pay, not intrinsic value) more than the house and land.
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              • #8
                Quoth cewfa View Post
                Jack Morris didn't pound the shit out of Robin Ventura in 1993, which I still watch on YouTube from time to time.
                Well, duh. One of the greatest videos of all time, and further scientific proof of the theorem that You Don't Fuck With Nolan Ryan.

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                Still A Customer."

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                • #9
                  Eric Davis in 1987 is another good video to watch if you can find it. I believe it is the Reds vs. Braves.

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                  • #10
                    I just gave my baseball cards to my oldest nephew for a bar mitzvah present. He'd wanted them for some time, and I figured, what the heck. I've never been really "into" collecting them, I'm more into old cameras at this point, and I can't remember ever looking at them any time in the last twenty years.

                    What were they? Topps full sets of 1986-88, plus traded sets. All in plastic pages, 9 to a page. I think I haven't looked at them once since I put them into the pages. Before I made the decision to give them away, I looked on ebay, and it seems that I could probably buy the entire lot for less than $150 now. Which is probably more or les what I spent on it then.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Jester View Post
                      On the bright side, there were some 1992 cards featuring Nolan Ryan, my favorite pitcher
                      I have both the DonRuss Diamond King error card, AND the DonRuss 5000K error card. The backs of the cards are reversed. The Diamond King has the 5000K back, and the 5000K card has the Diamond King back.

                      They were worth about $15 each when I bought them. Now I think they're probably worth less than $1.

                      Heck, even the price tag on the Ryan/Koosman rookie card has dropped significantly.
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