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  • Religious question -- Struggling with this a little...

    I'll try not to get into fratching territory here. Mods, if this is inappropriate, let me know, and I'll start this in fratching.

    I'm sure that some of you have heard the expression "There's a special place in Hell..."

    Well, here's what I'm struggling with:

    I have a good friend of mine who is very Christian. I turn to him sometimes when I have a question about Christianity, to get his opinion, being a believer myself.

    He believes that if you're a Christian, and you ask for forgiveness, it's granted, regardless of what you do.

    But I'm having trouble reconciling that with some of the actions that people have taken. I mean, I believe in Salvation and such, too, but I do struggle sometimes with whether or not some actions still allow people to get into Heaven, if they ask forgiveness.

    I started this because of something I recall that happened a few years back near where I live, and a horrifying video I watched today on CNN.

    A few years back, there was a case where a guy and his wife quite literally starved their 10 year old to death. They were both convicted and got jail time, but I can only imagine the pain, betrayal, and loneliness the kid felt as he slowly died...because his parents intentionally withheld food.

    Today I see one on CNN about some @$$hole dentist in Florida who does unnecessary things to his "patients" (which I believe are kids), and then charges it to Medicare (because most of the parents of the kids are on Medicare).

    There's a video with an interview of one of the moms where they were supposed to get one tooth pulled, and the dentist pulled seven.

    Even more horrifying was the VIDEO of the little girl who was literally restrained in the dentist chair (hands and feet) terrified and screaming in terror (and likely high pain) and writhing to try to get free. And the doctor is acting as if nothing out of the ordinary is happening. I can only imagine the terror and the horror going through the little girl's mind (I think it's a girl, hard to tell, just going by what the clothing looks like). And apparently the dentist didn't allow parents in the room. I think a parent can recognize their kid's screams, so I wonder if the parent tried to go back and they wouldn't let them.

    I have a hard time reconciling these actions with these people getting into Heaven...especially considering that they did what they did to CHILDREN

    It really affected me. I may have trouble sleeping tonight because of it...

    I don't know if there's a way to reconcile this...

    What say you?
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    Yyyyeah. If you have to ask if it goes on Fratching, it does. Please re-open this can o' worms over yonder. You may wish to include a caveat on the first line that you're asking for *advice* and not trying to start a debate, just to keep it in friendly territory.

    PM me a link once you start the Fratching thread and I'll add it in here, if you like ^_^

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