Yeah.... Just give me a second to tie my tubes

[Sliceanddice]

Retts is a disease that primarily affects girls.

And im... going to blush in the corner

[Jack7957]

Quoth Sofar

I'm nineteen, I look twenty-four, I work at a burger joint and my most annoying customers are teenagers. Always dressed like idiots, listen, if you want to be nonconformists, do as I do: DRESS HOW NO ONE ELSE DRESSES. Don't just dress the same as a bunch of people whom call themselves nonconformists.

This reminded me of part of a South Park episode.....

[Loading dock at South Park Elementary, day. Stan walks over and finds the Goths there, as usual. Henrietta reads a book]
Stan: Hey guys. Uh. You guys know how to dance, right?
Tall Goth: [with cigarette] Of course we know how to dance.
Stan: Cool, because, there's this competition on Saturday, and I have to find the very best dancers in South Park to be on my crew. My friends can't do it because they suck ass, so, will you be in my dance troupe?
Red Goth: Dance troupe? Please. [leans to one side and whips his hair back into place] We don't dance like those Britney and Justin wannabes at school. [whips his hair back into place] Goth kids dance to express pain and suffering.
Tall Goth: Yeah. [stands up] The only cool way to dance is to keep your hands at your sides and your eyes looking at the ground. Then every three seconds you take a drag from your cigarette. [leans his head to the right for two beats, leans it to the left for two beats, leans it to the right for two beats while taking a drag, leans it to the left for two beats, repeats. The red Goth follows suit, then all four Goths dance the same way]
Stan: Okay, that'll work fine. Listen, there's a dance competition this Saturday and I need good dancers so I don't get served.
Red Goth: [flips his hair back] No way. Dancing is something you do alone in your room at three in the morning.
Stan: [walks up to the red Goth] Please, you guys, our whole town's reputation is at stake! Will any of you do it?
Red Goth: I'm not doin' it. Being in a dance group is totally conformist.
Henrietta: Yeah. I'm not conforming to some dance-off regulations.
Little Goth: I'm not doin' it either. I'm the biggest nonconformist of all.
Tall Goth: I'm such a nonconformist that I'm not going to conform with the rest of you. Okay, I'll do it. [rises and walks over to Stan]
Stan: Great! [they leave together]
Henrietta: Whoa. I think we just got put in our place.
Red Goth: Yeah. We just got Goth-served.

[Bloodsoul]

Weirdest kid, today.. mom comes in hurridly with kid in two, crying like a.. cry baby, shouting how he doesn't want batteries.

...okay. Ah, speaking of Gothic subculturystuff, I need to go repaint my nails blood red. Which is less a blood red and more a metallic, candy apple red. Pretty Goth!! ^_^

[Andara Bledin]

Quoth TonyDonuts

Little girls are miniature human beings. Little boys are wild men on a small scale.

Stuff like this makes me want to rend things...

Little girls and little boys are almost completely and utterly identical mentally until adults start telling them they're not.

... if I hear, one more time, about "boys will be boys" ....

^-.-^

[Sofar]

Quoth Andara Bledin

Little girls and little boys are almost completely and utterly identical mentally until adults start telling them they're not.

What? No. No they're not. I have no idea where that strange idea came from, probably pop psycologists in the seventies. We've grown out of it since then. Men and women are different. We think differently. We're under the control of two completely different sets of hormones. There's a reason the little girl picks up a doll and the little boy picks up a toy gun.

[AnqeiicDemise]

Quoth Sofar

What? No. No they're not. I have no idea where that strange idea came from, probably pop psycologists in the seventies. We've grown out of it since then. Men and women are different. We think differently. We're under the control of two completely different sets of hormones. There's a reason the little girl picks up a doll and the little boy picks up a toy gun.

Then I guess my brain's out of whack...

I always fought with the boys so I could access their spiffy Tonka Trucks and my barbies suffered at the hands of the CAT mafia. I enjoyed being the cop who tried to figure out why Barbie had been decapitated and her body stashed in the microwave.

My parents knew to buy me the cowboy toys than a doll any day.

And my mother knew better than to put me in a dress.

You know, now that I think about it, I can see why my mother was that I was a lesbian and was relieved when she met my fiance.

[zzapp the witch]

I thought that they were identical, too, Andara, BUT....

I have 2 boys and a girl, I've raised them all the same, never influenced them as far as anything sexist, but they are very inherently different in behavior and play. My daughter decided she likes dollies, now I know this doesn't come from me, I think dolls are creepy. But she's a nurturer. She's also motherly with a penchant for kicking ass when her two older brothers start picking on her.

I had wondered if she picked this up from TV, but I limit my kids' viewing and keep an eye on what they watch, so I'm not sure. From day one its been about dolls and dresses and pink, and I don't know where she got it, its not like I ever have a reason or a chance to dress up and go anywhere, and I hate pink.

And the boys like watching the history channel and anything about cars or machines. They get into my tools and take their toys apart, and their sister's, unfortunately. And the closest she gets to putting them back together is putting bandaids on everything.

There have been marked differences in my children from the day they were born, and I had the boys first, so my daughter's differences were even more noticable. Hell, they even breastfed differently, reacted differently when they were dirty (my daughter would scream like a banchee at even a little wet), they even went for different toys when you would lay them out in front of them. All of my kids' first toys were in basic primary colors, and my sons would play with completely different toys that my daughter picked out (and those toys went through all three kids).

I'm not saying you can't influence your children to behave a certain way starting when they're very little, hell look at Paris Hilton. I'm freaking out cause my 3 yr old daughter is all about pink and butterflies and ponies and kitties and princesses. (I don't even let em watch Disney).

I'm just trying to ride it out and hoping I can nip the extra prissy whiney behavior in the bud, there's no way I want a butthurt whiner entitlement whore for a daughter.

She does growl at strangers though, and we don't have a dog......

And Angeliic, I stole my brother's toys and decapitated my barbies, too. hehehe

I guess what I'm saying is that the sexes DO have inherent differences at birth, but on different levels. I may be a tomboy, but I'm still a mother and quite feminine when I want to be. My daughter's just going to be more girly than I was.

[zzapp the witch]

Oh, and something my dad told us kids when we were quite a bit younger:

Girls will be girls, and boys will be boys, but that's no excuse for being an asshole.

[Sliceanddice]

Quoth Andara Bledin

Stuff like this makes me want to rend things...

Little girls and little boys are almost completely and utterly identical mentally until adults start telling them they're not.

... if I hear, one more time, about "boys will be boys" ....

^-.-^

Right with you sister,
And for those of you who want to say different-
When we are born little boys are actually 'weaker' than girls but you aren't treated that way.
They have done experiments and proven that its sociaty that makes us think Boys will be Boys.

[Sofar]

Quoth Sliceanddice

They have done experiments and proven that its sociaty that makes us think Boys will be Boys.

WHO has done experiments? Stop saying things like that! CITE YOUR CLAIMS. And I never bloody said anything about weaker sexes! I said DIFFERENT.