A little hypersensitivity from the mods.

[B&NGoddess]

i just thought id pop in and let mr. healey know that not everyone is against him.

i agree on some points. i totally see the hypersensitivity he's referring to. but, as was pointed out, we're playing in Raps' backyard and have to follow his rules. because its only fun until someone loses an eye.

[Kiwi]

No site is perfect, personality conflicts and diagreements will always happen on a site this large. You cant make 100% of the people happy 100% of the time.
If I spent the time and money that Raps did on this site, I would run it differently but I dont, so I wont.
I applaud you for voicing your opinion though, not enough people stand up when they see something is wrong.

[Rapscallion]

As a side note, I do actually appreciate threads like this. There's an old adage saying that if people can't come to you with problems, you're not leading any more. I also follow a simple rule - I always listen to advice; I don't always take it, but I always listen to it.

We've got a set of rules that have been proven to work. I'm sure there are other styles that will work, but we're sticking with these for now, and I don't see us changing any time soon. I didn't have to tinker with the ones that Mr Slugger gave me very much to get what you see.

If you really want to break the rules down to something simpler - respect your fellow poster. I run another forum where that is the main rule, and it works, though it's very much a different place. Here, we have to be specific on many occasions. It's the nature of the place.

As another side note, as Ree said, I'm not angry. We try not to sweat the small stuff.

Rapscallion

[JuniorMintz]

Quoth Mark Healey

Trying to enforce the ethnic label of the week. Specifically objecting to the term "oriental". It just means "eastern", as in people from the eastern edge of the eurasian land mass. "Asian" is too broad a term. Asia is huge. Nobody refers to Ghandi, or Stalin as "Asian" even though they were from Asia.

If it ever became policy to *not* step in when people are posting racist comments, I wouldn't come back. You are referring to an incident that started in one of my stories, and I stand by what I said the first time. I am not dumb or hypersensitive, I am very well aware that many people (most of them baby boomers or older) don't realize that Oriental is impolite and truly don't mean any offense when they say it. I understand that. My friends and coworkers of Asian decent all understand it, and to their credit they are always gracious when someone accidentally uses it.

However, when someone who is already behaving like a douchebag positively *sneers* about the "Oriental" that examined him, what else are you supposed to think?

We have 5 doctors on staff right now. One Japanese female (an owner), one Laotian female, one Thai female, one Afghani male, one Caucasian male. (Also an owner.)

I also have a lot of coworkers, all of us female. Some are Caucasian, some aren't. I am mixed myself, although you'd never guess otherwise by looking at me.

That said, I've heard many, MANY more racist and/or sexist comments about the people I work with than I ever would have expected coming in to this place. I know that the idiots who frequent our office from day to day are just that, idiots, and for the most part I am forced to deal with them on a daily basis. I've always been able to log on to CS and laugh about it at the end of the day with people I care about, people who have been there and done that. We've ALL had to deal with a racists at one point or another, but up until recently I've never had trouble with my threads turning into off topic bitchfests by people who completely missed the whole point of the story to begin with. As it is, I have already resolved to not post anymore stories dealing with racism anymore (unless it's a REALLY good one) because frankly, if I want a headache I'll go back to work.

This is where people usually put disclaimers that they aren't a racist, which is bullshit. We all are to a certain degree.

Nope. I can honestly assure you that I am not the least bit racist. I judge behavior and behavior ONLY. If you are incapable of doing so yourself, that's unfortunate. Racists are douchebags. They ALL are, "to a certain degree."

We just have to be aware of that and monitor our selves when we know we might be jumping to inappropriate conclusions.

So, did you consider monitoring *yourself* before posting this thread, then? I'm guessing not.

And finally,

And finally one that applies to me. I am one of those people who gets nasty with telemarketers. The people called by them are not customers.... Because of this their complaints aren't relevant here.

Besides pointing out that Raps and his mods alone are the ones to decide what is and is not relevant here, I'd like to share the following link with you. This link can also be used by every other lame ass who has been rude to the telemarketing members of CS over the last few days.

https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx


THERE. Sign up and be flipping done with it, already. If *any* of you are too lazy to do so at this point, that is your failing and yours alone. Either way, if you still insist on bragging about your rude behavior, you would be wise to keep it to yourself. Only assholes would be impressed by it, and why would you even *want* their approval anyway?

[kibbles]

Wow JuniorMintz, ITA 100% Excellent post. I also like it here, and I think the rules are very fair. I love coming here and reading the stories and feeling that you can express opinions without a flame war starting

[DesignFox]

I like the rules, too...

This is the first and only online community I have joined and consistently visit/share my thoughts with. I have read comments in other online forums and people get downright nasty- needless to say, I never signed up on those boards.

Fratching was created specifically for the controversial debate, so I don't mind being told to take comments there. That's what it was created for. (Although, mostly, I try to stay away from making comments that are 'questionable' under the rules- which I read when I first signed up, and will check again if changes are noted)

I mean, hell, I've had people disagree with things I've said. Sometimes, people jump to conclusions. But I know that mostly, tone can't be derived from written words. And sometimes, misunderstandings happen. If something like that occurs, I just agree to disagree, or don't respond (or at least not emotionally). No point getting upset with one another. We're all here to support one another, but once in awhile, we are going to butt heads. Better to let it go than start a full blown argument (I don't mean we can't offer differing viewpoints, but no point in getting out of hand with it- just back off if you feel that you can't keep it civil)

I am grateful that our Mods are here to enforce these things. I LIKE that there are no flame wars and that someone is there to look out and prevent them. I LIKE bragging to my BF (who teases me about my online geek-fest) that no, there really AREN'T nasty people here.

[April]

Very rarely have I noticed a mod being "touchy" and sometimes topics go south for awhile before a mod notices, but i can totally understand them heading something off before it does go to hell.

As an admin of my own board and a mod at several other boards, it is impossible for every mod to be around all the time to stop a thread. Sometimes a mod can go to bed, wake up check the board and realize that overnight, all hell has broken loose.

it's easiest to post a warning BEFORe that happens than to "wait and see" and then get the hurt feelings and snarping about that thread for 3 weeks later.

[kerrisan]

Quoth April

it's easiest to post a warning BEFORe that happens than to "wait and see" and then get the hurt feelings and snarping about that thread for 3 weeks later.

I kind of agree with all sides here.

For the most part, the mods do a good job. But I have seen a couple of threads closed for no reason just because a mod "got a feeling" or "wanted to head it off" before it went bad . . . no warning or anything. People would be playing nice and suddenly not be able to play anymore. That's my only beef. As for the rest of it . . . Raps' mods really are better than your mods!

[Ree]

Quoth kerrisan

I have seen a couple of threads closed for no reason just because a mod "got a feeling" or "wanted to head it off" before it went bad . . . no warning or anything. People would be playing nice and suddenly not be able to play anymore.

Again...I understand that side of things as well.

The mods have been around here for a long time, (that's why they were chosen as mods), and they have seen a lot of threads.

You know that old saying, "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck."
Well, when we see a thread that has a certain topic, and certain people begin posting in it, and certain comments are made, then we can pretty much tell which road that thread is going to go down.

Just because you are playing nice, that doesn't mean that everyone else will, and from experience, we know that there will inevitably be a member who is going to step in and grab the matches and the gasoline and start the fun.

There are just some topics that end up in controversy no matter how much leeway we give the thread.

You may not like it, and that may give the impression that we are hyper vigilant, hypersensitive, and overreacting, but that's how we keep this site as one of the highest quality forums on the internet, in my opinion.

[NightAngel]

I made this post a few weeks ago:
http://www.customerssuck.com/board/s...22&postcount=1

I stand by what I said. I can't believe how atrociously people treat eachother on other boards. I've seen people called all sorts of names and utterly ripped apart just for asking a simple question! Half (or more) of the questions posted in OT here would meet with a firey end on some of those boards.

I've wondered why they even had people called "Moderators". Those people didn't moderate ANYTHING! They were just as spiteful, rude, obnoxious, etc. as the other members. It's more of a, "I'm one of the cool kids 'cause I got the word Mod under my name. If you ain't part of my clique though- watch out!" deals.

If that's what you want then please- feel free to join those boards. Have fun.

And once they've ripped you open and bled you dry- feel free to come on back here where we actually give a damn about our members.