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  • Separation Anxiety, ADHD and kindies oh my!

    So normally I wouldn't ask for work-related advice around specific children, but I'm going to be running the floor quite a bit over the next few weeks as bosslady gets ever closer to popping out her baby boy. And the timing of this is perfect as we have new kindies. -.- A couple of them have already started with us, but we'll be having a few starting next week. ALL of the kindies I've either met or at least know by name.

    So now I'm putting out there some advice for any tips for managing three children-one is on the spectrum, one has ADHD and the third well...

    Child 1: Is on the spectrum, is quite high-functioning (speech is fine, handles change in routine OK etc.) but struggles socially (closer to Aspergers). My issue with him at the moment is around outdoor games and to some extent, indoor ones. More specifically, with any outdoor activity, he'll try and arrange it so he's never "out" and gets upset if he is "out" (he'll pout and stomp, but he doesn't hit full meltdown status) claiming that it's unfair. I've tried walking him through how he sees it as "unfair" but the response is the same. I suspect this may be partially linked to Child 2's behaviour, as child 2 has done similar things.

    Child 2: ADHD, although to what extent we're not quite clear. Mum believes that going gluten-free (and casein-free, although that's being questioned) is the solution and while she doesn't let him get away with murder, also refuses to get him regular help (I'm talking CBT type stuff not drugs). Unlike child 1, he does not cope with change well and when a major change happens, he'll turn rude, doesn't listen and acts up, causing everyone else to laugh. Lately it's simply calling out at roll call and then making rude comments to all and sundry, me included. It's also now progressed to encouraging OTHER children to act up and be silly. I do give him some chances to lead every now and then (such as he'll organise soccer games with the kids). The other issue is the tantrums. We've worked out that what triggers it varies, typically it's either when he acts up in response to a situation (for example, child accidentally nudges him, instead of using his words, he'll shove back) or he doesn't get his own way in regards to certain matters (for instance, I insist on the kids using their manners when they come up to me for food and at one point, I was waiting for him to respond politely. When I told him I was waiting for him to not be rude, he got upset and started hitting the staff).

    Child 3: This one I've met a couple of times (kindy), but his case is simpler. He just has a pretty big case of separation anxiety. while I'm aware it's normal for children of that age to have this, I'm looking for any tips to help him get settled easier. (To give you a rough idea of the extent of his separation anxiety, he gets extremely distressed the moment mum lets go of him period.) Mum is aware of this and warned us ahead of time, stating that once he's used to it, he'll be fine.
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    No advice on 1 or 2, but sounds like #3's mom has been through this before. Doesn't make it easier on you, but she's right. My son used to throw up (vomit) when I tried to leave him at the first day care we used. Once he got through THAT stage, he would behave well for the staff, but then have a total meltdown when I picked him up.

    Fortunately for me (since he was my first child and didn't know what the hell I was doing ;-) ), I had him at a Montessori school first, and they showed me how most of the kidlets go through stages like this. As for what you can do, maybe allow him to have something of his mother's with him throughout the day. A blanket with her scent, a picture, etc. Maybe she could write him notes (I know he can't read, but you could read them to him) and put with his lunch. Anything that will make him feel his mother's presence ... as well as multiple reminders during the day that Mom will be back, she ALWAYS comes back!

    Hope this helps!

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    • #3
      Thanks Teefies!

      So far the school's strategy has been to take him to one side in the mornings and get him to wash his face and count to 10 in a space that's classed as a combination sick room and "admin" area. We went through ALL the information about the new kindies the other night, so I could handle things on Friday and also for when the new coordinator rocks up (because let's face it, bosslady will be leaving for some time)
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      • #4
        Quoth fireheart View Post

        Child 1: More specifically, with any outdoor activity, he'll try and arrange it so he's never "out" and gets upset if he is "out" (he'll pout and stomp, but he doesn't hit full meltdown status) claiming that it's unfair. I've tried walking him through how he sees it as "unfair" but the response is the same. I suspect this may be partially linked to Child 2's behaviour, as child 2 has done similar things.
        My 4yo is on the spectrum and sounds very similar to Child #1 in terms of strengths and weaknesses. He also really doesn't like to be "out" in games. One thing that is helpful for my little guy is to remind him that being "out" isn't forever - when the game restarts (or when you get tagged back in, or whatever) you get to play again. Also, since he is very rules-focused, stepping through the rules of the game and explaining "when this happens, then that person [you] is out until X..." and being very clear about WHY he is "out".

        It's hard if he is "out" more than other kids because of some difference in skill levels (like if he's a really slow runner, or there are other kids who are better at the game) but the rules thing helps with that too, because he sees what he could do better in order to be "out" less.

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        • #5
          Quoth paperfiend View Post
          My 4yo is on the spectrum and sounds very similar to Child #1 in terms of strengths and weaknesses. He also really doesn't like to be "out" in games. One thing that is helpful for my little guy is to remind him that being "out" isn't forever - when the game restarts (or when you get tagged back in, or whatever) you get to play again. Also, since he is very rules-focused, stepping through the rules of the game and explaining "when this happens, then that person [you] is out until X..." and being very clear about WHY he is "out".

          It's hard if he is "out" more than other kids because of some difference in skill levels (like if he's a really slow runner, or there are other kids who are better at the game) but the rules thing helps with that too, because he sees what he could do better in order to be "out" less.
          I might try this thanks!

          Child #2 is doing MUCH better too he has made a few disturbing comments which I'm in the process of addressing, but the respect level is better. He did so well this morning and we are praising him for these
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