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    Suck the First or "In which staff are human, with finite human brains"
    "You know, you really should have better knowledge about the products you sell."

    Lady, I have fantastic knowledge about the products I sell. In MY department. Which I just told you was Menswear. In fact, I've recently had a performance review where the manager PRAISED me for my product knowledge. But you came at me with a query about WOMENS CLOTHING. And I wasn't rude, or dismissive. I pointed out the Womenswear counter which is about ten yards from mine, in a straight line. I said they'd be more than happy to help you, since your query is about products THEY sell.

    But no. I'm the asshole for not having encyclopedic knowledge about every single one of the thousands upon thousands of products this DEPARTMENT STORE stocks. My fault.

    "I guess it's too much to ask that the staff here be able to answer basic queries. Your managers should really train you better."

    Why, exactly, is it more reasonable for me to have to learn multiple thousands of items, than it is for you to walk ten yards?

    Suck the Second or "In which there is a line, and you have crossed it"
    Yes, my badge really does say Jim.

    No, I didn't forget my own badge at home today/have to wear a spare/yes, this is mine.

    Yes, my name is Jim.

    Jim is short for James.

    Yes, my name really is James.

    Look, I'm realistic about what's going on here. I look like a girl, because I don't have thousands of dollars to drop on surgery to make me look more like I feel. I get that I don't really have a right to get upset with people who are genuinely curious about a "girl" named James. I get that. But what is WITH the pointed, in depth inquiries?

    No, my mother didn't name me that. I did.

    Yes, I'm serious.

    I don't mind people asking. Jim/James is an unusual name for a person who looks like me, and I accept that. I do mind when they don't DROP IT. Curiosity yes. Invasive personal questions, no.

    ...no, I'm not going to tell you what my deadname is. No one calls me that anymore, because that isn't who I am anymore. I've given you the name I answer to now. Why would you even think you have a right to ask me that?

    Suck the Third or "Young doesn't mean stupid/Stop bullying young workers because you think they'll cave easier than I will"
    Yeah, okay. My coworkers are 16/18 generally. They're young, and they look it.

    That doesn't mean they're stupid.

    I'm 31. I've been around the block a few times, and I saw you coming, because I've dealt with people like you before. You think that if you pull the "I'm a grown up and you're not" card, you can bamboozle the younger staff into believing you're right, despite their training. You think if you pull the "Well, I've always done it this way" you can confuse the younger staff into breaking policy.

    There's a reason why I drum our returns policy and the Consumer Guarantees Act into the head of every new staff member who comes to work in my department. It's because of people like YOU. So, you can try your luck on J if you like - but under my tutelage, he's learned those documents backwards and forwards. He might be sixteen, but he can recite chunks of that legislation verbatim. So it doesn't matter how young he is. He knows that we've never allowed cash refunds, he's not going to kowtow to your bullying, and if you continue on the path you're walking, he's going to come and get me.

    If he has to come and get me, you are not going to enjoy me one bit.

    Suck the Fourth or, "In which my staff have not yet learned to clone themselves"
    Yes, we heard you press the fitting room bell. We're very sorry, but all three of us are actively serving customers.

    No, that won't change because you press the bell again/longer/more insistently. You're going to have to be patient.

    We are not goofing off, we are not hiding in the stacks, we are not refusing to help you, we are HUMAN and we are BUSY and you are NOT the only customer in the department right now.

    Suck the Fifth or, "In which you've had TWELVE HOURS..."
    We opened at nine. We close at nine.

    If you can't sort your life out in those twelve hours enough to come down and peruse our stock, then I don't know what to tell you. But come nine in the evening, I'm done. Our hours are clearly posted, and they haven't changed (with the exception of Christmas hours) for literally years. This is not new information.

    Once we are closed, I don't have to be pleasant anymore, because once we are closed, you are no longer customers. You are trespassers.

    Suck the Sixth or, "Keep your nasty remarks to yourself"
    What you said wasn't funny. And that's not just because I happen to be a member of the minority group you were disparaging. It's because it's not fucking funny. The fact that you saw my disgust and followed it with "I don't mean she's actually [slur]. I mean, she's acting like one. It's a joke" doesn't makes it any better. In fact, it increases my wanting to punch you in the face about 300%, because now in the space of sixty seconds you've both used a slur about [the minority group I happen to belong to] AND called it a joke, meaning, making [the minority group I happen to belong to] the punchline of your pathetic, nasty, small little jokes is okay by you.

    What you said was gross. And I'm not going to serve you. You want to be a disgusting pig? Fuck off and do it in your own space. But I'm not going to serve you, and I'm not going to apologize for turning on my heel and walking away, either.

    What you said was revolting, and you can complain all you like. I'm busy telling my staff that they don't have to serve you either.
    Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet...

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    I'd probably do a double take on the nametag, but giving you crap about it? It's a NAME. Your name in fact, not her name. Who the fuck cares what someone else calls themself? It does NOTHING to you.

    Hell, I kinda wanna see if I can smuggle a "Sunshine" nametag in. Could be fun.
    I am a Blank Space for spacing purposes, ignore me.
    In order to treat someone as your equal, you first need to believe both: that they are your equal, and that you are their's.

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    • #3
      Why are people so nosey? I actually have heard of a female named James. But really, who cares? You don't have to reveal your reasons any more than I have to divulge my medical information (the thing they want to know about me). These people have nothing better to do, and that's sad.

      And on the 12 hours--I can't tell you how many times we've had people in 10, 20 minutes past closing. I'm so glad my schedule has been revised and I get done 1 hour before closing, period.
      "Is it hot in here to you? It's very warm, isn't it?"--Nero, probably

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      • #4
        My real nickname is Mel. No one can say my real name so to save time I just go by Mel. What's the big deal about names anyway? Ugh some people

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        • #5
          And here's me who never looks at the names on tags. All I look for is the store name.

          Unless I need to send off an email praising the service I got, but then I will ask the person for their name.

          (I don't know where you live, but if you want, I can maybe help you a little on your journey. I know how to get your ID changed and all. Me is an ebil goberment worker.)

          I so get it about people expecting you to know everything about everything. I know about how to get people Medicaid and food stamps. I haven't been trained about cash. I can't do that. I'll do my job perfectly with health and food benefits because I'm just that awesome. I won't touch your cash case because I might fuck it up. Don't yell at me because I won't do it. You really don't want someone who doesn't know what they are doing to handle that sort of thing. Really. Trust me on this. If I fuck it up, I'll get dinged on my eval, you will lose out on the money you need.

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          • #6
            Quoth Food Lady View Post
            Why are people so nosey? I actually have heard of a female named James. But really, who cares? You don't have to reveal your reasons any more than I have to divulge my medical information (the thing they want to know about me). These people have nothing better to do, and that's sad.
            A lot of the time people are asking because they're genuinely curious. I can tell, through long experience, when someone is being genuine and wanting to educate themselves, and most of the time I'm super on board with that. I think so many of life's little understandings could be negated if people just spoke up and asked the questions they're thinking. I try to encourage that, by greeting an honest question with an honest answer (where appropriate).

            But yeah, when it goes beyond simple curiosity to "but you're a girl", that's when I go "No, I'm not, and please leave."

            Quoth Slave to the Phone View Post
            And here's me who never looks at the names on tags. All I look for is the store name.

            Unless I need to send off an email praising the service I got, but then I will ask the person for their name.

            (I don't know where you live, but if you want, I can maybe help you a little on your journey. I know how to get your ID changed and all. Me is an ebil goberment worker.
            Thanks ever so for the offer! I haven't legally changed my name, and don't intend to for the time being (complicated story) but everyone who is anyone calls me Jim/James, and my workplace is recognizing both my name and my pronouns, so I consider the battle essentially won at this point.

            re: looking at the name tags... a lot of people don't. But a lot of people do. I used to be SUPER uncomfortable when people would read my badge and call me [Deadname], and I always used to try to justify it by saying "Well, my badge is on my chest, and I don't like people looking at my chest". It wasn't until I realized that I'm trans that I realized it was the name I was objecting to haha. But I remember a while back posting something about people creeping on me calling me by the name on my badge over and over and how intrusive it felt!!
            Last edited by EricKei; 09-13-2015, 06:27 AM. Reason: merged consecutive posts
            Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet...

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            • #7
              Regarding the name James, there is a famous woman author named James Tiptree, Jr. It is a pen name, but confused many people for years.
              "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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              • #8
                Once we are closed, I don't have to be pleasant anymore, because once we are closed, you are no longer customers. You are trespassers.

                I love you........... where do you sign up for the newsletter? And mass-produced signed photographs?
                - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

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                • #9
                  Quoth Argabarga View Post
                  I love you........... where do you sign up for the newsletter? And mass-produced signed photographs?
                  There's a hefty fee to make THIS monkey dance, darling.
                  Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet...

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                  • #10
                    It's $130 impound per car, and I tow in a college town, honey.

                    Wait, are we talking dirty, in public?
                    - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Argabarga View Post
                      It's $130 impound per car, and I tow in a college town, honey.

                      Wait, are we talking dirty, in public?
                      I think I just offered to sell you my body, and you intimated that you had the money to pay for it... lmfao

                      I was just mega-stoked that you said something flattering (about my trespassing comment) because I have been fan-personing over your posts for YEARS.
                      Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet...

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Tee View Post
                        I'd probably do a double take on the nametag, but giving you crap about it? It's a NAME. Your name in fact, not her name. Who the fuck cares what someone else calls themself? It does NOTHING to you.

                        Hell, I kinda wanna see if I can smuggle a "Sunshine" nametag in. Could be fun.
                        When I lived about an hour from where I do now, there was a drive-in restaurant known for delivering food on rollerskates, and a word that has to do with sound.

                        Anyway, a girl who worked there had a nametag that read "Sparkle". As in, that's what she wanted to go by.

                        Unique, for sure, but hey, if her parents wanted to name her Sparkle, who am I to argue?
                        Skilled programmers aren't cheap. Cheap programmers aren't skilled.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Tee View Post
                          Hell, I kinda wanna see if I can smuggle a "Sunshine" nametag in. Could be fun.
                          Oh, I took a pic of one of my receipts, because it made me smile!



                          "I guess it's too much to ask that the staff here be able to answer basic queries. Your managers should really train you better."
                          *shudder* I hate people who think every employee should know ever single item in the store, which is thousands and thousands. I was at a big box hardware store and asked if they had lead paint testers. She said she wasn't sure but if they did it would be on a particular aisle. They were there. So even though she didn't know for sure, she still got me where I needed to go. People need to calm down and get a life.
                          Replace anger management with stupidity management.

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                          • #14
                            The thing about names is that there's only a VERY specific set of circumstances in which people get stroppy about a name change. If I change my name from "Jane" to "Susan", no one bats an eye. If I change it to "Taylor" that's a good gender-neutral name and no one cares. If I change it to "Moonbeam", I might get some jokes, but no one will get too upset. If I become a professional wrestler and have everyone call me "Thunder Thighs", well, when was the last time you heard Hulk Hogan called by his legal name? Or Sting (the musician)?

                            When you realize that you can change your name to nearly anything and no one gets freaked out about it, it makes it seem all that much sillier that changing it to "Alfred" makes people flip out.

                            Just call people what they ask you to call them. Not that hard.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth manybellsdown View Post
                              The thing about names is that there's only a VERY specific set of circumstances in which people get stroppy about a name change. If I change my name from "Jane" to "Susan", no one bats an eye. If I change it to "Taylor" that's a good gender-neutral name and no one cares. If I change it to "Moonbeam", I might get some jokes, but no one will get too upset. If I become a professional wrestler and have everyone call me "Thunder Thighs", well, when was the last time you heard Hulk Hogan called by his legal name? Or Sting (the musician)?

                              When you realize that you can change your name to nearly anything and no one gets freaked out about it, it makes it seem all that much sillier that changing it to "Alfred" makes people flip out.

                              Just call people what they ask you to call them. Not that hard.
                              Yeah, I'll call someone almost anything if that's what they'd prefer, almost.

                              Had a guy last job who wanted to be called "Troof", because, according to him, he always told those who needed to know, the troof. I called him by his legal first name. That guy lied so much, I couldn't in good faith call him that. Literally the only person for whom I ignored what they preferred.

                              Names are what people use to identify themselves, it's their personal choice to change it should they so decide that the original is not sufficient to the task.

                              Quoth notalwaysright View Post
                              Oh, I took a pic of one of my receipts, because it made me smile!

                              That's awesome.
                              I am a Blank Space for spacing purposes, ignore me.
                              In order to treat someone as your equal, you first need to believe both: that they are your equal, and that you are their's.

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