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  • It only took getting the BBB involved to get something done.

    Quick backstory: We purchased a refurbished Dell laptop from Staples online a few months ago. One of the reasons we did so was because it was listed with a 3-year warranty. For the price (around $300) this was a great deal because you're usually paying $150 - $250 extra for a 3-year warranty. These days you're lucky if you even get a 1-year warranty as some sellers have been cutting it down to 90 days because they know their hardware is going to fail that quickly.


    Anyway


    2 months ago we're trying to show the laptop to a customer and the battery won't charge. Embarrassing. They ended up buying something else, but it still doesn't look good for us when we're trying to demo a computer and something isn't working.


    Call Staples. Explain the issue. Get sent to Dell.

    Dell can't help because it's out of warranty.

    Oh noes, I say. It's a 3-year warranty.

    That's through Staples, they say. I call Staples again.

    Get a very condescending agent who is talking to me like I'm a 5 year old, explaining that most laptops only have 1 year warranty.

    I know this, I say. I own a computer store and I know how warranties work, and I know that the laptop we got from you guys has a 3-year.

    Get referred to Dell again.

    Now I'm fuming. Call Staples back. Somehow in the conversation it comes up that this was a refurbished laptop. AHA! Now we're getting somewhere. If it was a refurb you need to contact the refurbisher.

    Get the refurbisher's contact info - still wondering why 2 other Staples agents didn't think to ask me this. Perhaps I am in the wrong for not mentioning it's a refurb but perhaps I am a silly person for thinking someone know how to do their job.

    Refurbisher sends a UPS tag to swap out the battery for a new one. Score.

    Ask the refurbisher what the actual warranuty on this unit is. It's a 1-year.

    By some miracle I had the forethought to print out the original listing for the laptop in April and I had it tucked away in my desk. Check the printout. Yep - clear as crystal. It was listed on their web site with a 3-year warranty. Someone screwed up when they typed up the listing.

    Pull up Staples site and look up the order so I have the info in front of me when I call Staples to complain.

    Well that's odd. It no longer says 3-year warranty under the listing.

    Compare my printout with what's on the screen.

    They changed it. They EDITED the listing.

    GODDAM MOTHER%!@*^#$%!@$%$!*%^$*

    Staples screwed up and they're backtracking. NOT ON MY WATCH, BRO! I BACKTRACED YOU AND CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!

    Me and the biz partner finally decide we've had enough of this crap and want to return the thing for a refund.

    Call Staples and (exhaustively) explain the entire situation. THEY screwed up in the online listing but I have a printout proving it. Whatever yutz I talk to offers a partial refund of something like $20.

    Yeah, you can take that $20 and pound it up your ass.

    Start emailing and calling Staples. Email a few of their executives. Call them and leave messages. A month later, no one has bothered to respond.

    Remember the title of this epic adventure where I mention the BBB? Biz partner suggests we try them. I give a thorough description of the Staples Dell Laptop massacree with Full orchestration and five-part harmony and stuff like that, and other Phenomenon.

    Two days later a nice fellow from Staples calls to apologize for the confusion and they'll make an exception and let us return the laptop for a full refund. They send a UPS call tag and as soon as they get the laptop they'll cut us a check for the original amount.


    You may be asking yourself, constant reader, did justice prevail? Did the gods of Staples look down upon this downtrodden soul and bless us with our three hundred bucks - probably 1% of what their CEO makes in a week. Did the Justice League finally beat some sense into the Legion of Doom and give Lex Luthor an atomic wedgie?


    I hold in my hand a check from Staples for the full amount of said laptop.

    I feel like a Dungeons and Dragons character who was allowed to return a cursed magic item.


    So after numerous phone calls and emails, all it took was complaining to the Better Badger Bureau Better Business Bureau.


    I can't help but wonder if I didn't have the printout from our original purchase if they would have done anything. But that possibility exists in an alternate timeline where the Towers still stand and Paris Hilton was eaten by wolves.



    Thus endeth the tale of the lowly computer tech facing the big scary giant named Staples. And stabbing it in the dick.

  • #2
    I feel that I can say with absolute certainty that if you didn't have that printout you would not have your refund, and everyone involved at Staples would be firmly convinced that you were being an asshat lying sucktomer... except for the one person who remembers stuffing up the listing, and later fixing it, and who would never ever admit what they had done. "Hey Joe, this jerk thinks we'll believe him when he says he got a refurb computer with a three year warranty! As if!" "Haha, yeah, damn customers will say anything to get what they want..." *sweats nervously*

    Hooray for keeping the paperwork! XD

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    • #3
      three hundred bucks - probably 1% of what their CEO makes in an hour
      Fixed.

      And congrats on prevailing against the forces of evil! Now go cash that check quick before they change their minds!
      When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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      • #4
        Maybe write in to the BBB , too -- they're used to dealing with people who have problems with businesses. I'm sure they'd be happy to hear a success story!
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        • #5
          If you hadn't had a printout of the listing, they 100% absolutely wouldn't have done anything for you. As it is, I'm surprised going to the BBB got you anything, as they're already at 3 stars and it's not like another bad review is going to hurt that much.

          Congrats though that you got what you wanted in the end!

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          • #6
            It wasn't going to the BBB that got you the refund. It was that someone with a working brain looked at the paperwork (probably an assistant) and saw that you had a PRINTOUT of the original webpage. If you took it to the news it would travel everywhere. The BBB is worthless. They cannot do anything except badmouth a company on their site. The news on the other hand loves to lambast big companies when they have a slow day. Especially when it can get them nice ratings and make them look like they care about the 'little man'.
            Last edited by Teskeria; 12-23-2015, 07:22 AM. Reason: spelling

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            • #7
              Quoth Teskeria View Post
              It wasn't going to the BBB that got you the refund. It was that someone with a working brain looked at the paperwork (probably an assistant) and saw that you had a PRINTOUT of the original webpage. If you took it to the news it would travel everywhere. The BBB is worthless. They cannot do anything except badmouth a company on their site. The news on the other hand loves to lambast big companies when they have a slow day. Especially when it can get them nice ratings and make them look like they care about the 'little man'.

              Honestly I don't think that's the case. We had complained to numerous people at Staples, both through their regular support line as well as through the corporate phone number. We also emailed several of their executives directly. After a month no one had responded to us.

              Two days after we complained on the BBB web site we got the phone call from them.

              Maybe it was coincidence, but I believe it was complaining to the BBB that finally got the ball rolling.

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              • #8
                Quoth An Haddock View Post
                Maybe it was coincidence, but I believe it was complaining to the BBB that finally got the ball rolling.
                Maybe the guy at Staples thought if you complained to the BBB, the next step would be to complain to the news people.
                "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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                • #9
                  Quoth Ironclad Alibi View Post
                  Maybe the guy at Staples thought if you complained to the BBB, the next step would be to complain to the news people.

                  My biz partner is vindictive enough that he DEFINITELY would have done that.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth An Haddock View Post
                    Two days after we complained on the BBB web site we got the phone call from them.

                    Maybe it was coincidence, but I believe it was complaining to the BBB that finally got the ball rolling.
                    It most likely was a coincidence. Most companies don't give a damn about the BBB, either because they're so low due to abuse that it doesn't matter or they're big enough for it to be irrelevant. To add it would have taken a fair bit longer than two days for a cheque from Staples corporate to reach you.

                    Most likely a couple of weeks before you went to the BBB the info hit the legal team who responded with "you have two choices. The first is they get the refund as requested and you're out 300 bucks. The second is you refuse which gives them an easy lawsuit that can cost the company several hundred if not thousands times the amount of the refund. Your choice."
                    I AM the evil bastard!
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                    • #11
                      Quoth lordlundar View Post
                      It most likely was a coincidence. Most companies don't give a damn about the BBB, either because they're so low due to abuse that it doesn't matter or they're big enough for it to be irrelevant. To add it would have taken a fair bit longer than two days for a cheque from Staples corporate to reach you.

                      Most likely a couple of weeks before you went to the BBB the info hit the legal team who responded with "you have two choices. The first is they get the refund as requested and you're out 300 bucks. The second is you refuse which gives them an easy lawsuit that can cost the company several hundred if not thousands times the amount of the refund. Your choice."
                      Perhaps I didn't explain the timeline properly:

                      We tried, over the period of a week, in early November to contact Staples.

                      After 30 days, in the first week of December, no one had responded.

                      On December 5th I filed the complaint with the BBB.

                      On December 7th a Staples rep called me and emailed us a UPS call tag. When they received the laptop they would send us a check for the refund.

                      On December 8th we shipped the laptop out.

                      On December 9th the laptop was received. (We're in NJ and it only had to go to North Jersey)

                      On Dec. 22nd I received the refund check in the mail.


                      Again, it could be coincidence but we had contacted Staples and waited 30 days with no response before finally posting on the BBB web site. Two days after posting on on the BBB was when a rep called me.


                      I'm just stoked to have our $300 back. Happy holidays indeed!
                      Last edited by An Haddock; 12-24-2015, 08:24 PM.

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                      • #12
                        I give a thorough description of the Staples Dell Laptop massacree
                        On your printout, were there circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against Staples?

                        ...I think I just dated myself...
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                        • #13
                          Quoth paxillated View Post
                          ...I think I just dated myself...
                          Did you take yourself to Alice's Restaurant on that date?
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                          • #14
                            Quoth paxillated View Post
                            On your printout, were there circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against Staples?

                            ...I think I just dated myself...
                            We were jumping up and down screaming "KILL! KILL! KILL!"

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                            • #15
                              You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant.
                              "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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