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  • I'm on the Highway to (Phone) Hell...

    I haven't posted in awhile but that's basically because I deal with the same crap day in and day out and haven't had many new and interesting stories for awhile but here's a refresher on some of the stuff I deal with all the time.

    "Your system is wrong, ain't no way I used that much data!"

    It never ceases to amaze me how many callers will plead blissful ignorance on their data usage and expect my company to either:

    1) Move them to a new plan at no cost
    2) Credit their overages

    I've been doing this six years. How often have I seen the system be wrong? Three. THREE TIMES.

    One dude last week tried to convince me that his phone turned on its own hotspot and somehow used 12 GB of data without him knowing a thing about it.

    Uh huh, yeah, sure...

    Or the lady who was disputing her data usage...until I connected to her phone and showed her the 16 GB of usage from the Youtube app. I couldn't see her, but I promise the cat butt face was there.

    To every one of these customers I say: Do us all a favor and get your ass on an unlimited plan so we don't have these problems anymore okay?

    "I spend so much money..."

    I get SO SICK OF HEARING THIS. Yes, I understand, cell phones are expensive. I pay close to $300 myself each month but guess what? We live in a technology filled culture in which connectivity is almost a necessity, not to mention consumers endless desires for the latest and greatest in mobile technology (read: Phones AREN'T CHEAP).

    Yeah, I get you're fishing for a credit or a better deal but I'll have more respect for you if you straight up ask rather than continuously whining about the cost of our services as if expecting me to a) care or b) do much about it.

    "Why should I have to pay to replace a broken phone?!"

    Uhhh, because it's broken? This is a simple concept: You BREAK something, you gotta pay to either a) get it fixed or b) get it replaced. This is consumer products 101 people, for crying out loud!

    Like I said up there, phones are expensive and I understand it's a pain to have to replace one but guess what? Shit happens. If you have to, you have to.

    Even worse are the ones who HAVE insurance and complain about having to pay a $150 deductible to replace a $750 handset. From where I sit that math works out in your favor even factoring in 12 months of insurance premiums.

    It's cute you think <Red Checkmark> should just eat the cost of a new phone and send one out to you, especially seeing as how the phone being broken has nothing to do with us, but that's not gonna happen.

    What do you mean you can't locate my phone?

    I mean I CAN'T FIND YOUR PHONE. Look, I'm just a $15/hr phone jockey and this is real life, not CSI. I don't have some magical way to instantly pinpoint the location of your device (and presumably the person using it) to within 10 feet. That is NOT how this works. Either use your OWN locating apps or if it's serious enough: CALL THE COPS!

    "I'm going to cancel and to go to x/y/z!"

    This is the most meaningless threat in all of customer service but customers STILL seem to think it's some magic key that will make me jump up and miraculously do the exact thing I was REFUSING TO DO mere moments ago!

    The only thing I will do if you drop this on me is roll my eyes yet again and ponder how phenomenally little I care that are you are thinking of taking your business elsewhere. We have tens of millions of customers, losing a few here and there doesn't mean jack. Good luck with Sprint, I'm sure you'll be thrilled being on their network.

    And also, I HAVE to lay some of the blame on corporations here for creating "retention" departments training consumers they can get freebies and discounts if they threaten to cancel service. I bet none of the Ivy Leaguers who came up with this brilliant idea have taken these calls before!

    Attack of the Invisible Hackers

    Okay people, let's get this straight, 99% time your phone IS NOT HACKED. Either A) you've installed a malicious app on it that's messing with you or B) You've come across a garbage ad that looks like this:



    Neither mean anything has been hacked, they just mean that you're being careless with how you use your phone. These are both easily fixed.

    If it's not that, then it's one of what I like to call our "tin foil favorites". These people are the extremely parandoid, conspiracy theory types who think their phones are bugged, that people are listening to their calls, that the government is monitoring their every move, etc, etc. I don't even want to think about how much money we waste talking to these people constantly because they call in so damned much.

    A lack of planning on your part...

    Pop quiz!

    How many of the following are the fault of <Red Checkmark>?

    1) You're on vacation and you lose your phone and can't afford another.
    2) You're on your sisters account and she has suspended your line and you don't know why.
    3) We can order you a phone, but today is Friday and you can't get it until Monday or Tuesday because weekend.
    4) Your car broke down in a very rural area where you happen to have no signal.
    5) Your son took his brand new iPhone to school with him and someone stole it.

    If you said NONE, congratulations! You win a cookie.

    Unfortunately the victims of these incidents weren't quite so understanding as every last one of them browbeat me for credits, replacement phones and freebies that simply weren't deserved. Yes, it sucks when life doesn't go the way you want it to but there's no damned way that you wireless provider should have any obligation to bail you out.

    Now to be fair, if someone is genuinely nice to me I do have ways of going outside the lines to potentially help with some of these situations, but if someone is being a raging entitled, douchewaffle...you can probably guess what I'm absolutely NOT inclined to do for them.
    Last edited by CrazedClerkthe2nd; 08-25-2017, 11:39 PM.
    "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

  • #2
    I've never understood why other people don't seem to understand that old saw about attracting more flies with honey than vinegar (although why anybody would want flies, in any number, is a mystery ...)

    If somebody starts screaming at me, I will do the absolute minimum -- less, if I think I can get away with it. But if someone's polite, I will bend the rules into a pretzel, if I can, to help them out.
    Customer service: More efficient than a Dementor's kiss
    ~ Mr Hero

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    • #3
      Quoth Pixelated View Post
      (although why anybody would want flies, in any number, is a mystery ...)
      Well, if one was a frog, for instance....
      “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.
      One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world.
      The other, of course, involves orcs." -- John Rogers

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      • #4
        And I'm goin' doooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.... ....
        - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

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        • #5
          Flies

          If you are going fishing?

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          • #6
            Quoth Nunavut Pants View Post
            Well, if one was a frog, for instance....
            ... having annoyed a wizard ...
            I am not an a**hole. I am a hemorrhoid. I irritate a**holes!
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            • #7
              Quoth Pixelated View Post
              I've never understood why other people don't seem to understand that old saw about attracting more flies with honey than vinegar (although why anybody would want flies, in any number, is a mystery ...)

              If somebody starts screaming at me, I will do the absolute minimum -- less, if I think I can get away with it. But if someone's polite, I will bend the rules into a pretzel, if I can, to help them out.
              Part of my job at a government agency was to handle the worst calls. Either the question was so complex that few others knew how to deal with it, or the person was totally obnoxious. We had a rule. If you are a receptionist or a seriously junior staffer, you are not required to e yelled at. Send the person to me right away. If you can't find me, then here are the other people who will take the call immediately. Or, if necessary, grab the first manager or supervisor you can find.

              One result was that, knowing we had their backs, the receptionists took more and more responsibility for handling complicated questions and horrible callers.

              But that's a side issue for this post. There were 4 or 5 of us who did this kind of trouble.shooting. We had all sort of fallen into the role because we were good at it and staff knew they could rely on us. We used to meet frequently for coffee to swap stories and to coordinate how we dealt with stuff.

              We had a running conversation about a book we were supposedly writing, How to Fight City Hall. . Chapter one was all about how we can make your life miserable or we can work miracles. Your choice.

              We can say no or we can spend an hour looking up laws to see if you can do that. We can just transfer you to someone else, or we can call the someone else for you because we know the right questions to ask.

              Really polite guy, confused sweet little old lady, very professional business person? You are a VIP. I'll go out of my way to find an answer, even if it takes a couple of days. Make the receptionist cry, tell me you are calling the President to have me fired, yell that you pay my salary? I'll send you to the page on our web site that tells you all about it, in impenetrable legalese.

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              • #8
                $300 a month? How does that break down? Here in the UK I'm on a reasonably expensive package and I only pay the equivalent of $80 - half of that is hire/purchase for the handset (iFruit 7S+), and the other half is unlimited calls*, texts*, and 20GB of data. *Excluding premium rate and other special numbers. MMS is also extra, but in this day & age who still uses MMS when email, WhatsApp, etc. does it better and far cheaper.

                ETA: Those fake virus killer apps are such a con, especially the ones that charge a ridiculous monthly fee. There's no reason any of them should make it into the respective OS manufacturer's storefronts.
                Last edited by RealUnimportant; 08-26-2017, 05:48 PM.
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                • #9
                  Quoth RealUnimportant View Post
                  $300 a month? How does that break down?
                  US phones seem to be very expensive compared to European.
                  Here I pay 149 DKK (25 $) a month for unlimited speech, texts and MMS + 8 GB data and use of a Spotify-like music streaming app which doesn't count on my data.
                  I remember Whisky telling that she didn't have money to have people calling her, she had to pay for receiving calls too .

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                  • #10
                    I pay £16 a month for unlimited minutes and texts and 12GB of data (OK, staff deal, but non staff only pay £18 for it)

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                    • #11
                      I pay, per month in USD, for one phone:
                      $20 lease on iFruit 6
                      $50 unlimited calling in US & Canada, unlimited text, unlimited data
                      $9 assorted taxes and government fees

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                      • #12
                        Jeez, the last time I got a new phone it was an upgrade (or something?) where I could pay like $200 and just buy the phone, so there is no lease or payment plan. I am on a business plan that has like 10 phones and I think totals a bit over $400. It does not have unlimited data, however, but some of the people on the plan hardly use any so it evens out with the people who use more.
                        Replace anger management with stupidity management.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth notalwaysright View Post
                          Jeez, the last time I got a new phone it was an upgrade (or something?) where I could pay like $200 and just buy the phone, so there is no lease or payment plan. I am on a business plan that has like 10 phones and I think totals a bit over $400. It does not have unlimited data, however, but some of the people on the plan hardly use any so it evens out with the people who use more.
                          That was in, what I like to call "the good ol' days" . . . I got my first two smartphones by waiting until the newer model had come out and the model I wanted was deeply discounted (usually around 99 cents) before I'd upgrade.

                          Now I have to make 30 monthly installments so I can own the phone and by the time I get my current phone paid off (unless I can get the payments down to where I owe less than 200 and then pay it off completely then) the newer model (that I would really like to have) will be obsolete. Once one of the big 3 wireless companies did away with subsidizing the phones, everyone else followed suit.

                          Of course, on data plans since I use a small amount of data when I'm at work and hardly travel (and at home I'm connected to wi-fi so I'm not using up data) I only have 2 GB/month with rollover. Last time I checked I had at least 6 GB saved up.
                          Human Resources - the adult version of "I'm telling Mom." - Agent Anthony "Tony" DiNozzo (NCIS)

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                          • #14
                            Quoth DGoddessChardonnay View Post
                            That was in, what I like to call "the good ol' days" . . . I got my first two smartphones by waiting until the newer model had come out and the model I wanted was deeply discounted (usually around 99 cents) before I'd upgrade.
                            Well now I'm just sad. I hadn't paid any attention since I'm not responsible for bills, but a quick check says any phone I'd want would be at least $24 per month. Interesting. I still have a Galaxy S6, which I have been thinking I would get rid of somewhat soon. But now I have no idea how it would work due to my not being on my own plan and such. What a bummer, to go from like you said a basically free phone, to a $200 phone, to a $500+ phone. ($24 per month for two years)

                            I mean, I wouldn't be mean to some random person about it, but I guess I was fairly uninformed and if I learned over the phone that I would have to be paying way more than I expected I wouldn't be thrilled about it. This actually makes those people demanding free phones even more ridiculous. ETA: Ha, I see Red Checkmark did this almost 9 months ago. Wow, I'm super out of it.
                            Last edited by notalwaysright; 08-27-2017, 04:04 PM.
                            Replace anger management with stupidity management.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth notalwaysright View Post
                              Well now I'm just sad. I hadn't paid any attention since I'm not responsible for bills, but a quick check says any phone I'd want would be at least $24 per month. Interesting. I still have a Galaxy S6, which I have been thinking I would get rid of somewhat soon. But now I have no idea how it would work due to my not being on my own plan and such. What a bummer, to go from like you said a basically free phone, to a $200 phone, to a $500+ phone. ($24 per month for two years)

                              I mean, I wouldn't be mean to some random person about it, but I guess I was fairly uninformed and if I learned over the phone that I would have to be paying way more than I expected I wouldn't be thrilled about it. This actually makes those people demanding free phones even more ridiculous. ETA: Ha, I see Red Checkmark did this almost 9 months ago. Wow, I'm super out of it.
                              If the plan you're on is not in your name, talk to the person whose name IS on the account.

                              In my case, the account is actually in my brother's name but I am listed as authorized to handle the account (he is developmentally and intellectually challenged and I along w/our Mom handle his bills.) I have the account information and I simply do the upgrades online with no issues.

                              Only time we've had to have my brother was when we transferred my old iPhone to his number and we both went into the Death Star wireless store to get a new SIM installed (the smaller store near us did not have any so we had to go halfway across town to the BIG store at the huge outdoor shopping mega center.) He showed them his ID, did his best to explain what he wanted (he also has a speech impediment which makes trying to decipher what he's saying a challenge at times) while I stood next to him and filled in the blanks.

                              The rep who helped us was great - had the phone set up in a few minutes while we perused through the endless displays of the phones/tablets/accessories while we waited.
                              Human Resources - the adult version of "I'm telling Mom." - Agent Anthony "Tony" DiNozzo (NCIS)

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