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    Bf and I had a really bad dining experience last night. So much for our last night together before he goes on vacation

    Anyway, we're both certain that we didn't react too sucky, and what we tipped ($4 on $42 bill, that's about 10%, I think that's fair, considering that we normally tip 20% or better for good service). But read and go ahead and make your own decision.

    We both had never been to this place before, we'll probably never go back, at least never again on a Friday night. I guess we should have known better, but the thing of it is, we usually do go out to eat either or both Friday and Saturday evenings and we are very patient and understanding when it comes to wait times and mishaps and mistakes. We both have been servers in the past, and I'd think bf and I are more understanding than the average person.

    We were driving around looking for a place that wasn't too packed, and we were down by the mall and saw this sports bar/grill place named after a type of bear (not sure if it's a chain or local thing, only one I've ever seen before). There were a few open parking spots, so why not?

    So we walk in and of course, there's a wait, but no problem. They take our name and we have a seat on the very fluffy couch next to the (fake) fireplace and it keeps us warm while the nearby door keeps repeatedly being opened with people coming and going. That we really liked, because this time of year, it's still too cold at night to be comfortable sitting in any place nearby a door that's always being opened.

    The majority of the other people waiting were couples and trios. One large table was called and they walked away with the host. Several other couples walked in after us and sat down. We had a mental idea of when we'd be called.

    This trio of an overly loud mother and her two high-water pants-wearing baby-faced 20something sons walked in. It was impossible to not hear this woman bellowing, so it wasn't like I was purposely eavesdropping (ok fine, I do it all the time, but she was so loud, I didn't have to try). It became apparent that the boys had came home for spring break from college, and mumsy in her icky Mom Jeans (name brand, though, of course) was going over some financial talks with them. Aww, mommy pays your tuition. How sweet. But she can't seem to be able to afford you pants that cover your entire leg.

    *Warning, this is JUST for story-telling value, and should NOT be discussed therein after*

    Anyway, we wait and wait and the obnoxious cow starts rambling with her sons (them listening attentively) about how this "situation" in Wisconsin has gotten completely out of hand, everyone (and I mean EVERYONE!!!!!!) is "FURIOUS!" (she used that word, honestly, over and over and over. It's my new word of the week, just to mock the dumb cow. Last week was "winning", thanks to Charlie Sheen, now I have a new one!). Then she started going on and on about how "Just you guys wait and see, we are going to recall that Walker bastard and all of those good for nothing Republican senators that have destroyed worker's rights in Wisconsin. People are FURIOUS. This is NOT going to be tolerated!"

    What an appropriate place to start a political rampage. There's enough bullshit going on in this state right now that is tearing friends and families apart because of political differences. DO NOT RUIN EVERYONE'S FRIDAY NIGHT WITH YOUR FLAPPING GUM SYNDROME!

    Anyway, then the annoying family gets called to be seated.

    Wait. There is three of them. They walked in easily 10 minutes after us. I said something to bf, and he said "Well, I don't know, maybe they need a bigger table or something or asked for a special place to sit." So I figured ok, we'll give the benefit of the doubt here. Fine, they can go ahead. At least it gets the bitch and her rambling away for a second.

    Then a couple who came in after us got called. Wait now. Now two groups of people who came in AFTER us got seated. I started to get a little pissed. But ok, we will give it one more chance, and if they call one more group that came in after us, we are saying something or leaving.

    Then they call us. Ok, good.

    So we sit. And it's easily 10 minutes before the server even shows up. Bf asks for a margarita (oh great, that'll take even longer, dummy!) and I order a soda. We already wanted to order an appetizer and figured it'd be best we ordered it before the food so we didn't have to wait too much longer, but the waitress disappeared before we could even say anything other than our drink order.

    They had just cleaned the table before we arrived, so we had no napkins or silverware.

    A food runner or a different server came up a few minutes later and said "Enjoy some of our house bread while you wait!", set it on the table, and walked away before we could ask for napkins or silverware.

    Our drinks came a while later, and we asked for napkins and silverware before she could run off again.

    She never brought them.

    We asked a host bussing a table, and he brought them right and away and apologized. We said no problem.

    We got our appetizers, and then seriously, not even 5 minutes later, our meals.

    They gave my bf a SOUP SPOON to eat his pasta with.

    He asked the waitress for a spoon when she checked back a few minutes later to check on us. She didn't even look concerned that he'd been given a SPOON to eat pasta with. I asked her for a refill on my soda.

    She came back with a fork and another margarita for my bf. He didn't ask for one. Now, it'd be one thing if it was a soda, because those are generally free refills, but margaritas are NOT. Most places, they are $5-$8 each. Oh well, bf didn't care, he said he'd drink it, he loves margaritas. I asked a host if I could get a refill on my soda.

    The server finally came back with the refill and acted snooty about it.

    Then, when we were nearly done eating, bf asked for a box, which surprisingly, she actually brought right over in anticipation of the need. She left the bill.

    And then never came back.

    And this is a place where you pay the server at the table.

    This happens quite frequently, but we normally blame it on management or corporate on telling servers to do that on purpose so they don't "rush" customers. But after everything that happened, we figured she was just being a dumbass and being careless.

    We finally flagged her down as we were walking out and bf paid in cash.

    Really, I think there was no excuse for almost all of the incidents in the story. There is busy, and there are mistakes, this was just being careless and unable to keep up, or not caring to keep up.

    I hope we weren't overly sucky in the 10% tip, but wow......what a bad experience. The food was great, though, if that helps at all.
    You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

  • #2
    I had no idea whose section was whos, because unlike the two restaurants I worked in, there was no "pattern", as in, she wasn't serving the people nearby us, she was all over the place.

    The places I worked at, the server had their own corner of the restaurant or all kinds of tables and booths nearby one another.

    Although, it may have been that way because she was relieving someone or she may have been leaving soon.
    You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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    • #3
      Just a thought, the people that came in after you but got seated ahead may have called in ahead. Some places will let you call in and be put on the wait list to reduce your wait time when you get there.
      Don't wanna; not gonna.

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      • #4
        If they had called ahead, there would have been a table saved for them already, so they wouldn't have had to sit and wait.
        You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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        • #5
          Quoth blas View Post
          If they had called ahead, there would have been a table saved for them already, so they wouldn't have had to sit and wait.
          Not necessarily. If, say, a certain table is booked for one reservation at 6.00 pm and then another one at 8.00 pm, and it takes longer for the first group to finish their meal than expected (glitches in the kitchen, group ordering second desserts, other) then the group that arrives at 8.00 pm would have to wait a bit until the table was cleared and ready for the next reservation.

          I once experienced arriving at a restaurant where we had booked a table a whole week in advance. We had to wait half an hour before getting seated, and then wait for another hour before we got our orders.

          That restaurant closed down approx. 6 months later. I wonder why...
          A theory states that if anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for, it will be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

          Another theory states that this has already happened.

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          • #6
            I suppose that's possible.

            I guess I was more irritated because it was the longest we've waited for a table since our second Valentine's Day dinner. Even our recent visits to Olive Garden and Red Lobster, we haven't waited that long. But that may have been because they over-estimated wait times.
            You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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            • #7
              mm, she was sucky (the whole place seemed to have more suck than a hoover) and a tip didn't seem deserved.

              i wouldn't go back, but that's me...and it could have been a bad night. who knows?
              look! it's ghengis khan!
              Sorry, but while I can do many things, extracting heads from anuses isn't one of them. (so sayeth the irv)

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              • #8
                i don't know if it's relevant, but in the UK if you are served a paste dish (without a steak or something similar) then you are served a fork & spoon rather than a fork & knife as standard.

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                • #9
                  It was just a pasta, no side or anything to come with it.

                  Bear in mind, I did say a soup spoon. It's not easy to use a large spoon to swirl around and try to get a good mouthfull of pasta (with alfredo sauce).
                  You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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                  • #10
                    Down here, a lot of places do call-ahead seating (they may do it elsewhere, but I don't remember anyplace where I grew up ever doing it.) Basically you can call the restaurant as you're leaving the house to have them put you down on their wait list then, instead of when you actually get to the restaurant. But there could still be a wait once you get there; if the wait is 30 minutes, and you call from home and it takes 10 minutes to get to the restaurant, you'll still have to wait 20 minutes.

                    Anyway, it does sound like the whole situation sucked. Especially the waitress bringing your bf a second margarita without him asking, and NOT bringing you a refill on your drink. That's just plain unacceptable. I think you were fine in leaving a smaller tip than normal for that kind of behavior.

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                    • #11
                      I feel better hearing that from you guys.

                      As ya'll are probably aware, I analyze (over analyze..to death) just about everything, and the entire ride home I felt kinda guilty about the tip.

                      It was my decision, because I watched my bf stack two 20s on top of one another, then start fishing for ones to add to it, and once he got to 44, I said "That's enough, seriously, she doesn't deserve it."

                      Then we got into the car and I started feeling bad and kept talking about it non-stop.
                      You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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                      • #12
                        Quoth blas View Post
                        Bear in mind, I did say a soup spoon. It's not easy to use a large spoon to swirl around and try to get a good mouthfull of pasta (with alfredo sauce).

                        sorry being Sicilian, I would be surprised to not be given a soup spoon with pasta-it is how those in Italy eat it-and technically(according to etiquette) the correct way to do so.

                        Quoth emily post
                        The fork is used to spear a few strands of spaghetti, the tips are placed against the spoon, which is held on its side, in the left hand, and the fork is twirled, wrapping the spaghetti around itself as it turns. If no spoon is provided, the tips of the fork may be rested against the curve of the plate.'' ''The New Emily Post's Etiquette,''
                        Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, that's pure suckage.

                          You were generous with a 4 dollar tip. I'd have left 2 and never would have come back.

                          If they were even a hair suckier than that... penny tip, left without saying a word and won't come back.

                          This is coming from someone who's notorious for dropping a 25-50% tip for good service.
                          Fixing problems... one broken customer at a time.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Blade_Raver View Post
                            This is coming from someone who's notorious for dropping a 25-50% tip for good service.
                            I'm glad I'm not the only one that likes to tip that much. My mom always says I over-tip. At times when I'm really impressed, especially when I dine alone, I've gone as high as 60%. But I have to be really, really impressed.

                            Once I took refuge in Bob Evans with a friend during a storm and we just sat there and talked for three hours, ordering nothing but soft drinks. I left her a twenty for a five dollar check, since we were there so long, though they weren't busy at all and she had several tables. I think she was happy to have a table that didn't need a lot of attention.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth BlaqueKatt

                              sorry being Sicilian, I would be surprised to not be given a soup spoon with pasta-it is how those in Italy eat it-and technically(according to etiquette) the correct way to do so.
                              I think there was only a soup spoon.. no fork at all.
                              There's no such thing as a stupid question... just stupid people.

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