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Old 05-08-2009, 07:47 PM
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Fratching is a board licence I pay for so political and controversial stuff can be posted. Like this site, it's free and we don't spam you, but we expect you to stand up for yourself far more than you do here.

Correct usage of Fratching is to think whether or not something is the right thing to say, and if it isn't (feel free to check with a moderator - we only bite if you pay extra) then start a thread about the issue over there (possibly with a link back) and mention in the thread that you'd like to discuss the harsher issues there.

Incorrect usage is to talk about Fratching, meaning that you've already thought it could go down that route, and then say whatever you feel like saying as if it's a shield of immunity.

We've seen too many similar instances of late. We're quite happy to hand out infractions in the worst cases.

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Old 05-09-2009, 05:49 PM
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D'oh.....here am I reading this after having just committed that sin (though I think I danced around the issue, and it was not the main focus of my post anyway). Sorry.
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:15 PM
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Raps, I is slightly confused.

Are you saying you're wanting those of us on Fratching already to stand up for ourselves more over there (as in we aren't really debating hard enough?) or are you saying that you'd like more people to take threads that get closed over here and take them over there?

If it's the latter, I definetly agree. Usually when I see a thread get closed, I book ass over to fratching and see if that member started a thread about it....except most of the time, that doesn't happen.
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:58 PM
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I think the meaning was that he wants to see more use of fratching and less controversial statements here.

Also, he's asking people to stop making those controversial comments on CS and then hide behind the "but that's for fratching" excuse.

If a person has to make a disclaimer, it's better left unsaid.

It's like saying, "I'd make fun of your ugly dress and stupid looking hair, but that would be rude."

I'm sorry, but you can't un-ring a bell, and saying something that will incite a debate and then adding the fratching disclaimer is just the same as actually saying it on CS, which is against the rules.

If a person feels that strongly about an issue, starting the fratching thread, then posting the link over here with a simple, "Meet me at fratching," will suffice.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:03 PM
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It just kind of irks me that a thread will get closed, the mod will even state "You can take it to Fratching", and I go over there, and nope.....that person isn't even on Fratching, and no thread. I suppose anyone can start a thread, and it doesn't necessarily have to be the person who started the thread on CS......maybe I'm just being lazy and should start taking them over there.

Idk. Just my thoughts. I know we can't force people to join over there. But it would be nice if closed threads over here could take a trip over there and we could debate it without having to hold back.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:35 PM
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By all means, if someone doesn't put their money where their mouth is and doesn't follow up with a fratching thread after being asked to take it there, feel free to start one of your own.
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Old 05-10-2009, 03:42 AM
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So, a question for followup. If we wish to broach a particular topic that we know is more appropriate for Fratching, eg, if I wanted to start a thread on reciept checks, is there a procedure on CS to advise others about the Fratching thread?
(edit: ) Um...to be more specific, would it be appropriate to open a thread inviting other members over to participate in the Fratching thread, or would PM's be the preferred method?

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Old 05-10-2009, 03:46 AM
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The simple answer is no.

Make your post at Fratching, and those who are members of both sites will most likely see the thread over there.

Currently, we prefer that members do not start threads over here asking for others to come check out their fratching thread.
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:51 AM
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The way I understand it is that if it's a new idea, just post to Fratching (as Ree said).

If it's something that comes up in a post and you realize your response is more Fratching than CS, then you're allowed to say that your response is up at Fratching (or that there's a thread for it at Fratching), and include a link, but you're not allowed to include Fratching-worthy statements at CS itself.

Basically, you can say, "My thoughts on the subject are over here (linked) at Fratching" and leave it at that. You're allowed to say that you've posted there, but not the actual content of said post.

I'm sure someone will come along and correct me if I've got it wrong.

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Fratching - and the 'take that to Fratching' policy - is part of what helps this site stay so friendly.

People who enjoy contentious debates can go and participate. Sometimes we teach each other things, sometimes some of us change our minds - usually on being presented with new knowledge, or a new point of view.
Often we agree to disagree; but with a new respect for the opposing POV.

But many, many people come to CS to laugh - often wryly - at the silly ways the human race behaves. These people are not interested in debates about, say, whether the tipping system or the 'service compris' system is better. So we moved all of those debates to the sister site.

And heck, some of us - like me - can spend a few years being active in Fratching, then go off it almost entirely, then go back ....

The guideline I use in Fratching (this is not an official rule, but it helps) is 'argue the debate, not the person'. In other words, I can tell Jester that his argument and position are total crap; but I cannot and will not tell him that HE is crap. (Besides, he's a great guy. Even if some of his ideas and worldviews conflict with mine.)
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