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  • F**ker Ripping Off My Parents

    So as many of you may also be doing, I have been assuming a greater role in assisting my parents as they age. Not in any capacity remotely like real assistance, as even in their mid 80's they are both active and mentally sharp. However there are some things I am better doing now than they are.

    One of these things is the maintenance of all technical items. They are not technically phobic, each owns a late model iMac and they use them regularly. Dad has macular degeneration so he blows the words up real big on his screen, but it doesn't slow him down much. Mom studies genealogy and plays games and puzzles to stay sharp.

    They live a couple hours away and when I visit I am often greeted with a 'To Do' list of stuff they need done, which I am more than happy to attack given a) they are my parents and b) they have supported me through every dumbass thing I have done in my 48 years.

    Last Saturday I drove down with a friend for a short visit. My sister, brother in law and nephew had driven in from Connecticut and I wanted to say hello. After awhile dad mentioned a few small concerns - a buzz in the phone line (testing at the box says it's outside the house - Verizon's problem); tune up Mom's computer; and finally check the SD card in the Game Cam I set up outside the house (a hunter's motion activated camera I use for security - they live in the country).

    After I was done dad mentions casually "For some reason our internet bill has been going up." RED FLAGS! They use a Verizon Hot Spot for internet with 5gb / month for $50, more than enough for light use by octogenarians. November was $80, December looked to be $130! I popped into their account and it became clear someone was using their hotspot.

    As I mentioned before, they live in the country. Where they are there is on house to the left, two to the right and nothing else within a half mile. So other than a car parking outside, the list of abusers is quite small. After some discussion it was reasoned that the likely culprit was a teenager in the left side house who likely had access when he had played videogames with my nephew a few years ago. His family has been having issues and there was a good chance they dropped their internet coverage, so he likely just hooked up on my parents not knowing they had a limited account.

    The other two houses have retirees who don't appear to be technically savvy.

    So I changed the password on the WIFI, and changed the password to the router just in case and declared it over - no more problem. My parents were happy that we had solved it.

    Fast forward to Sunday night, I decide to check their account to make sure everything's still okay. Lo and behold they had been hit again. The usage clearly showed a pattern of 'hits' starting late at night after I left (and when everyone in my parent's house was asleep) and ending with a huge download Sunday morning.

    I believe this was a Brute Force Cracking program used to beat the new password. It was only 14 characters long and didn't take a long time to beat.

    As it was too late Sunday night to call, I disabled the account remotely from my home and called them Monday morning. I explained what happened and now they are unplugging the unit and removing the battery while not in use. I am due back down this weekend for a visit with my kids, so we'll try again with a 63 character randomly generated password, a new WiFi title telling the person to "F**k Off", MAC access turned on (only pre-approved computers can access), and a call to the sheriff's office.

    Happy Holidays you fucker.
    "Announcing your intentions is a good way to hear God laugh." Al Swearingen (Deadwood)

  • #2
    I hope you find the scumbag, and nail him, or her, to the wall.
    "Life is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid" Redd Foxx as Al Royal - The Royal Family - Pilot Episode - 1991.

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    • #3
      www.GRC.com has a nice password generator
      Can I suggest changing the wifi title to 63 chars lol? ☺

      Or keep the same title let him try to break it then tell him later.
      Last edited by dougall; 12-31-2014, 05:27 PM. Reason: had a better idea later

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      • #4
        Hope the cops take it seriously. They probably won't, since they really don't get computer crime.

        Your parents should talk to his parents and demand reimbursement for their expenses. I'll be the parents had no clue what was going on.
        They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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        • #5
          Out of curiosity, what level of security does your parents router use?

          You are much better off using WPA/WPA-2 rather than WEP. My partner set up WPA-2 on both our families routers prior to us departing for interstate.

          My partner's advice (he works in IT and has an interest in internet security) is "WPA-2 and 63/64-character password."
          The best professors are mad scientists! -Zoom

          Now queen of USSR-Land...

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          • #6
            This definitely needs to be secured. After all, if the "piggybacker" decides to download kiddie porn, it would look (from the server side) as if your parents had been doing it, since everything would be passing through their internet connection.
            Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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            • #7
              Answers - 1) already got the GRC website bookmarked; 2) I think the cops may be interested, kid apparently has a record (I didn't know, mom told me later); 3) WEP, WPA & WPA-2 are all options.

              And since I wrote my rant I read up on the Hot Spot's MAC Filtering options, which will only allow pre-approved computers the option of even trying to access the system. Not on the list? Then you may not even offer a password for entry. I will enable my parents two computers and my laptop and that is all.

              That should probably end it right there.


              Happy New Year all you good folks out there! I'm crashing soon as I'll be working my normal shift tomorrow. Have a great 2015!
              "Announcing your intentions is a good way to hear God laugh." Al Swearingen (Deadwood)

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              • #8
                MAC addresses can be spoofed -- so while adding MAC address filtering is good, better to make sure you are using WPA-2, preferably using AES encryption.
                There's no such thing as a stupid question... just stupid people.

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                • #9
                  Quoth It's me View Post
                  MAC addresses can be spoofed -- so while adding MAC address filtering is good, better to make sure you are using WPA-2, preferably using AES encryption.
                  True, but if he uses both, then it will be (next-to) impossible to gain access.

                  Quoth Sapphire Silk View Post
                  Hope the cops take it seriously. They probably won't, since they really don't get computer crime.

                  Your parents should talk to his parents and demand reimbursement for their expenses. I'll be the parents had no clue what was going on.
                  I doubt that his parents would report it or try and get reimbursed from the kids family (unless it happened again or things get a lot worse).

                  Its a country thing.
                  I might be crazy, but I'm not Insane.

                  What? You don't play with flamethrowers on the weekends? You are strange.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Gilhelmi View Post
                    I doubt that his parents would report it or try and get reimbursed from the kids family (unless it happened again or things get a lot worse).

                    Its a country thing.
                    If we get it stopped then they will let it drop.

                    Here's a customer service part of the tale I didn't relate: that first day after I changed the password and thought I had fixed it, I decided to call Verizon to see if I could get some help on the upcoming $130 bill. When I got ahold of the rep I identified myself as the son, had Dad get on the line to verify I could speak on his behalf, explained the situation and asked if Verizon might take something off the bill please.

                    The rep put me on hold, researched their history (which clearly showed they paid only $50/month before now) then finally came back on the line. He told me he could chop December back to $50 but he was very sorry he couldn't do anything about the already paid November bill.

                    I thanked him up & down, told him I appreciated what he did (and said I felt they were under no obligation to do anything), and basically left him glowing with genuine praise and gratitude.

                    I've been surfing this site too long to do anything else (for good service)!

                    I could hear the tension in this poor guy's voice fade away. I felt so sorry to think that my reaction must have been so abnormal for him. We concluded the call with work safe holiday wishes for each other and assuming I can stop the attacks the bill shall be reduced, and the need to get compensation will be nullified.

                    My parents do live in the country, but they have little interest in being fucked over, and will bite back if needed.
                    "Announcing your intentions is a good way to hear God laugh." Al Swearingen (Deadwood)

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                    • #11
                      I had something similar happen not long after I set up my network. I'd just set up my router, and was in the middle of the security settings, when my neighbor's machine suddenly showed up

                      Turns out he'd been doing that to everyone on the block, and it was only a matter of time before he hit my network. I was pissed, so I decided to retaliate. Turns out his computer wasn't secure at all, and was usually on during the day. Being the bastard I am, I simply used my network's remote feature, logged in...and downloaded the nastiest porn I could find At least I was nice, and didn't decide to flood his machine with viruses

                      Still though, the screaming that went on when his wife came home was more than adequate
                      Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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                      • #12
                        Quoth 2gigch1 View Post
                        My parents do live in the country, but they have little interest in being fucked over, and will bite back if needed.
                        I have found that there is a lot in the country that bite back. It pays to be careful.
                        "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Ironclad Alibi View Post
                          I have found that there is a lot in the country that bite back. It pays to be careful.
                          They found a well-ripened road kill inside your heater? Bless your heart, how could anyone be so mean as to freeze and store some poor raccoon rather than give it a decent burial.
                          I am not an a**hole. I am a hemorrhoid. I irritate a**holes!
                          Procrastination: Forward planning to insure there is something to do tomorrow.
                          Derails threads faster than a pocket nuke.

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                          • #14
                            I'm hoping the little bastard gets so frustrated in attempts to breech the new security that he outs himself by stomping over and banging on the door demanding 2gigch1's parents restore "his" internet immediately, whereupon they can just laugh and ask him if he's familiar with the laws against theft of services.
                            - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Ironclad Alibi View Post
                              I have found that there is a lot in the country that bite back. It pays to be careful.
                              Of course we bite back, but only as an Absolute Last Resort.
                              I might be crazy, but I'm not Insane.

                              What? You don't play with flamethrowers on the weekends? You are strange.

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