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Quoth AccountingDrone View PostBut it works for Tony Bourdain .... I pity his liver
I respect him though cause he eats anything without fear.
Sorry off topic there but I am a fan of that manhttps://www.youtube.com/user/HedgeTV
Great YouTube channel check it out!
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Quoth BeeMused View Post<Putting on CEO hat>I completely agree, when we are in the process of hiring someone we do check facebook etc. and do Google searches, for exactly the reasons you stated. And yes some people weren't hired because of the things we found. Online checks are one of the many tools we have to use to cut through the huge stack of applications we get, when we look for a new employee. Some weird party pictures from your last holiday? Who cares! Daily pictures showing you drunk? Um, not something we look for in a driver.
When we do these checks the person has already been shortlisted in our hiring process, the others didn't make it for reasons like too many spelling mistakes, or dog ears, or wrong qualifications, or whatever. Hiring is never fair, sometimes it's just luck.</Removing CEO hat>
Now, if you want to base your decisions on assumptions or guesses - hey, whatever flips your noodle. Me? I like established, relevant, accurate, FACTS.Large, Angry, Bitter, Mean, Vengeful. My natural facial expression is not one of happiness.
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Quoth MrTim View PostIf you see a picture of a person who appears drunk, does that mean they are an alcoholic? I never knew a picture can be an accurate way to determine a Blood Alcohol Level. Does their DMV record show any DUI/DWI's ?
Same for racy photographs (another failbook pic shows a shot of someone's manager who left her racy lingerie shot open to her friends after friending several of her subordinates) or drug use shots, or anything else that could be incriminating.
The Internet is (in some ways) eternal. Don't post it if you don't want a potential boss, co-worker, lover, mate, etc seeing it and judging you by it.
Things that other people post are a bit more difficult to deal with, but you can still un-tag yourself and delete comments on your own wall if it comes down to it.
^-.-^Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden
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Quoth MrTim View PostIf you see a picture of a person who appears drunk, does that mean they are an alcoholic?
When I have the choice between several potential employees, a page like that can make a difference. Unfair? Perhaps, but how do you make decissions, when you have 500+ applications for one job? How do you find the 5 - 10 people you'd want to invite for an interview? 450 are rejected for formal reasons, like dog ears or spelling or other things, that still leaves you with 50 applications who now get checked some more. And yes... a facebook profile will be looked at. Inappropriate things will put that application on the "no" stack.
Like it or not, HR is using the internet just like everyone else.No trees were killed in the posting of this message.
However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Quoth BeeMused View PostOne picture alone isn't enough. But a whole series? And the overall impression the facebook page gives...
...Like it or not, HR is using the internet just like everyone else.
Quoth BeeMused View Post450 are rejected for formal reasons, like dog ears or spelling or other things, that still leaves you with 50 applications who now get checked some more.
I guess I just will never follow that type of Human resource tactic. I judge people on their skills and merit, not their physical appearance.
What people do in their personal lives is none of my business, and as long as it doesn't affect their work, it is fine with me.
Quoth Andara Bledin View PostThe fact that someone has a picture of themselves with their name attached to it where they appear to be shitfaced drunk on what is essentially a public portal shows a certain lack of discretion on the part of the person pictured.
Now if I checked the person's criminal record and it shows 2 DUI/DWI's and they are applying for a position that requires driving, they will no longer be eligible for the job.
I swear I am not trying to be difficult, but I am a firm believer in facts. Go back to my story - this kind of thing happened to me, that is why I get so bothered when HR people use social networking sites as a form of research.
It was mentioned before that it was not fair and I agree completely on that. It was not fair that an HR lady discriminated against me with no facts whatsoever, but life is not fair.
I think I made my point, I won't post on this thread again.Last edited by crazylegs; 04-08-2010, 08:12 PM.Large, Angry, Bitter, Mean, Vengeful. My natural facial expression is not one of happiness.
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Quoth crazylegs View PostI think she means CVs or applications that are bent over at the corner, or otherwise scruffy in appearance.
Yep, I ment that. Sorry, I thought dog ears was a common idiom.
Quoth MrTimAccording to your post, you check Facebook before you meet the potential candidate. Am I reading that wrong?
You seem to think that we go by Facebook/other things found on the internet alone, well of course not, it's only one of the factors.No trees were killed in the posting of this message.
However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Quoth MrTim View PostSo since they appear to be drunk, that is a proven fact? No, it's not. I can make all sorts of assumptions, but I am just a stickler for facts.
It's not about whether or not they can do the job. There are 50 people available that are capable of doing the job. But you can only give the job to one of those people.
At that point, you have to start looking at intangibles and making decisions based on other factors. Maturity, professionalism, and how one presents one's self all come into play here.
If you post what look like they could be incriminating photos of your conduct in what is effectively a public place, it displays a certain level of immaturity that could be the deciding factor of whether or not you are in the 1% of total available applicants that get seen for an in-person interview.
Like it or lump it, that is the way of the hiring process, and it would be in a job-seeker's best interests to understand this.
^-.-^Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden
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I personally only use as a glorified address and date book. I have a few photos up up everything is friends only.If it makes sense, it's not allowed™. -- BeckySunshine
I've heard of breaking wind but not breaking and entering wind. --- Sheldonrs
My gaming blog:Ghosts from the Black
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I keep my facebook and Twitter accounts private. More go given the nature of my work as I work in marketing.
However, what one does outside of work, as long as it's not affecting them to the point that it's affecting their work is not my business. And yes there is a possibility of a misunderstanding like that one poster illustrated. The problem with social networking sites is that they are becoming the norms for first impressions and that's a bad thing.The Grand Galactic Inquisitor hears all and sees all.
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I've been following this thread, and I can see both sides. A 'fair' employee will not use found internet information alone as the deciding factor to hire someone or not. An unfair, lousy employer will get bent out of shape over the silliest things.
A smart employee understands that their behavior 'can be' a reflection of the company they work for and cause a bad impression to strangers. A not so smart employee forgets that there are witnesses everywhere, and not just what you yourself put on the web.
I work for a company that has reminded us that we need to be careful what we say and how we say it, as they consider us the face of the company. And I do have my boss' wife as a fb friend, so I stay conscious of not saying or typing something stupid either. It's also the reason I didn't really use a logon name different than my real name. They could find me if they wanted... lol. So, I hope I never write anything I can be sued for... lol.
It sucks that more companies cannot be trustful of their employees, but then as alot of stories here have shown, we often work with pretty dumb people.Make a list of important things to do today.
At the top of your list, put 'eat chocolate'
Now, you'll get at least one thing done today
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