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  • #16
    Quoth Lyse View Post
    The fact that the boy has a known history of doing things that are inappropriate is a huge factor.
    You caught that too. I agree, Seraph, your daughter needs the reassurance--just be careful not to encourage her to embellish.
    I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

    Who is John Galt?
    -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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    • #17
      The police need to be notified right away.

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      • #18
        Quoth Bright_Star View Post
        The police need to be notified right away.

        I agree completely! I also feel the school should not have "interviewed" your daughter. There are professionals who are trained to talk to children her age about these things. They can do it in a way that isn't intimidating. By them doing it she most likely feels like she did something wrong and it is her fault the other child is in trouble. I am not saying they did it on purpose but that is the end result. Let the police and their psychologists handle it from this point on.

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        • #19
          *hugs* for you and your daughter. I can't believe the assistant didn't report it, and that the little boy has a history of this with nobody doing anything.
          1129. I will refrain from casting Dimension Jump and Magnificent Mansion on every police box we pass.
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          • #20
            Double seconded. Any and ALL further 'interviewing' of your daughter should be by a child-victim specialist. Preferably - and this is a VERY strong preference - a police child-victim specialist, and preferably with you or some other parental figure you AND your daughter trust either in the room or very, very nearby. (Perhaps watching through a one-way mirror.)

            And they should be recorded interviews, permissible as court evidence. Too bad if the school doesn't like that.
            Seshat's self-help guide:
            1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
            2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
            3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
            4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

            "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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            • #21
              Your poor daughter. She will really need all the love and hugs you can give her.

              There will be someone in this boys life showing him things he is too young to see. Social services needs to remove him now.

              There was a boy at my mum's old work that would constantly flash people, try to put his hands down the staff's tops, hands up girls skirts. He also had the foulest mouth on him, worse than the worst person you can think of. He wasn't even 4 yet. They spoke to the parents numerous times, they denied all knowledge of his swearing, etc. 1 staff member had to watch him at all times.

              They called in social services after 3 weeks. He had sneaked out of the room during nap time and was found with his pants down rubbing himself.

              Turns out his parents had no clue what was happening because they would spend less than 1 hour a day with him. They would take him home, feed him, then go out drinking. He was being 'looked after' by his late teen brother and cousin who were watching hard core porn.

              Yep the kid had learnt it all because he was watching porn. He was removed from the home immediately.

              This little boy didn't do anything as bad as what happened to your daughter. Hopefully the little boy at your daughters school has only seen something that he shouldn't have and isn't being abused. Social services still need to get him somewhere safe though.
              A good bookshop is just a genteel Black Hole that knows how to read. - Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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              • #22
                Yeah, that interview thing made me mad, too. What exactly are they trying to do?
                1129. I will refrain from casting Dimension Jump and Magnificent Mansion on every police box we pass.
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                • #23
                  Probably mixed motives. They're telling themselves they're trying to find out what happened, and underneath that there's the 'cover my ass' motive.
                  Seshat's self-help guide:
                  1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                  2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                  3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                  4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                  "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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                  • #24
                    Quoth Seshat View Post
                    Probably mixed motives. They're telling themselves they're trying to find out what happened, and underneath that there's the 'cover my ass' motive.

                    That's the feeling that I'm getting. That they're trying to cover it up. She needs to notify whoever she can so they can't even begin to try to "sweep it under the rug". & a lot of people will be losing their jobs when this is done. I would insist on it if that were me.

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                    • #25
                      Actually the teacher might have reported the boy to CPS repeatedly, or he might have already been removed from the home.

                      I know of a situation where a friend, who is a teacher, had reported a boy as sexually abused and being sexually aggressive towards other students repeatedly. CPS did nothing. In her case the other parents would NOT press charges against the boy - and the administration was a wimp and afraid of the boy's mother and her lawsuits. (He was both disabled physically and a Special Ed student. She constantly claimed that her son wasn't getting services.)

                      Another friend had a student who had been abused (father was convicted) and was being aggressive towards other kids. Again the parents of the victims would NOT press charges. The child's status as emotionally disturbed protected him from being removed from the school.

                      Please, please, please file your own report with the police NOT CPS. The boy cannot be arrested in most states, he is under the age of reason. In some states you if you have a police report the bully has to be removed from the school. Get your child to the doctor and get a referral to a therapist for both of you. You need to control your actions so that you don't put guilt on your daughter.

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                      • #26
                        In my mum's case, she didn't wait for the center to call in the cops. She did it herself. She had been telling them to call social services since the boy had been in the center for only 3 days.

                        If the school hasn't contacted the police about this yet, do it yourself NOW.

                        Don't wait for the school to finish its investigation. By the time they do, the details may blurry in your child's memory. It also gives the school time to get all their stories to match.
                        A good bookshop is just a genteel Black Hole that knows how to read. - Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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                        • #27
                          Quoth Dilorenzo View Post
                          "Not again?" Seriously? "Not again?"

                          This has happened before and no-one has dealt with this bloody nitwit?

                          Seraph, I hope your daughter is doing better about all this. And can you let us know which areas of the country to avoid while you're going nuclear?
                          I'm trying to wrap my head around the "not again" too. Words can't express just how angry I am at seeing this.

                          I have to disagree with DaDairyDruid (sorry hun), but Geek King is right. Going to the media will blow it out of proportion.
                          Random conversation:
                          Me: Okay..so I think I get why Zoro wears a bandana
                          DDD: Cuz it's cool

                          So, by using the Doctor's reasoning, bow ties, fezzes and bandanas are cool.

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                          • #28
                            Quoth fma_fanatic View Post
                            Going to the media will blow it out of proportion.
                            Exactly, which is why we are not doing this.

                            We've done what we could though, we've rattled the cage bars, and are now watching the birds pinging off as they fly around frantically. (Its a good mental image for how the office looked as well when we showed back up, lol)
                            By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

                            "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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                            • #29
                              Oh. My fucking. God.

                              I feel ill.
                              Success is not final, failure is not fatal: It is the courage to continue that counts.-Winston Churchill

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                              • #30
                                Don't know what I can say that hasn't already been said, so I just say

                                Life is too short to not eat popcorn.
                                Save the Ales!
                                Toys for Tots at Rooster's Cafe

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