It's against the TOS's t share that information with third parties and the city is most certaintly a third party.
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It's a security risk, violation of privacy, violates TOS's of.... practically every website....
Allows employers to find out your sexuality, religious beliefs, affiliations with such groups.... allows them to bypass finding out answers to every question that's not allowed to be asked....
And on top of it all (from a business standpoint) -- they list at least 7 different things, and only provide 3 lines! That's just dumb in itself. I sure hope it's a "let's see who the idiots are -- and not hire them" (i.e. anyone answering won't get hired)..... nope, guess not... .
What's really worrying is they said no one didn't withdraw their name because of it! Someone asks me for that I'd say "sure! Where's the warrant?" And then ask if they really wanted a potential lawsuit for demanding to know information that they can't legally ask for.Last edited by JLRodgers; 06-19-2009, 02:04 AM.
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Speaking of job applications crossing the line I just applied for a job at the source (retail worker).
after you fill out the application they ask you to fill out some things, first they ask what gender you are (I thought that wasn't allowed), then they ask some math questions and then you have to rank these statements on a scale consisting of true, mostly true, mostly false or false.
1.In the past five years, I have been involved in at least one physical fight.
2.I have had to leave a job because of personality conflicts.
3.All of the information I have submitted (or plan to submit) while applying for this job is 100% accurate and verifiable.
4.I have never been arrested for breaking any law, or suspected by the police of breaking any law.
5.People have been surprised by my ability to defend myself verbally.
6.I have left a job without giving at least two weeks notice.
7.Whether I succeeded or struggled in my former jobs has always depended entirely on my attitude and ability.
8.At least one of my former employers suspected me of being dishonest or treated me unfairly.
9.I enjoy winning arguments by outsmarting and outtalking my opponents.
10.All of my past supervisors would tell you that I was their favorite employee.
11.After a tough day at work, I sometimes relax with a few drinks.
12.I never cheated on any tests in school.
13.I would happily fire someone who took little things (like pens and paper clips) from work.
14.Letting a friend use your employee discount is the same as stealing and should be punished like stealing.
15.What an employee does outside of work hours is nobody’s business.
16.I have had more than my share of irritating co-workers.
17.Compared to most people, I miss a lot fewer workdays due to illness.
18.I used to hang around with the wrong kind of people.
19.Everyone I know would say that I am exceptionally honest and truthful.
20.I probably use profanity more often than I should.
21.I get impatient while waiting in line or while stuck in traffic.
22.It irritates me when people move too slowly.
23.In the past, I got away with things that I am glad my employer never found out about.
24.If I saw someone breaking the rules at work I would report it immediately, even if that person was my friend.
25.I would pass a thorough background check, like those given to armored car guards and police officers.
26.If I found out that I had given an annoying customer too little change, it wouldn't bother me that much.
27.In school, I never got in any trouble for my behavior.
28.In the past, I have been in trouble because of my drinking or drug use.
29.I have never been fired from a job, or had to quit before I was fired.
30.I have thought about getting even with a former supervisor or co-worker.
I felt really weird filling this out.Interviewer: What is your greatest weakness?
Me: I expect competence from my coworkers.
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A lot of places make applicants fill out personality tests like the one described above.
They're mind-blowingly stupid and only test your ability to lie convincingly, but employers that use them do so because they think it's a magic formula to weed out the no-goodniks.Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.
"I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily
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11.After a tough day at work, I sometimes relax with a few drinks?? It's nobody's business what I do after work. A lot of those questions are uncalled for and I wouldn't answer them.
And I sure as hell wouldn't give out my usernames on websites, let alone passwords. My online life is none of their freakin business
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Quoth I8DaCookie View PostAccording to a former manager, it is illegal to ask you what your age is. Came up after I was denied a job application because of my age (15 I think).
um no, especially if the required hours are outside what a minor can work, or if there is some other reason for an age restriction-such as-need a bartender's license, selling age restricted products, using certain equipment.Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes
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Exactly. At work, I have to ask all applicants what their age is even before I give the application (which is 18 Years old or higher). The last thing I want on my watch is being accused by someone (or the cops) because a 16 year old hire sold a Kama Sutra Book to one of his friends.Quoth BlaqueKatt View Postum no, especially if the required hours are outside what a minor can work, or if there is some other reason for an age restriction-such as-need a bartender's license, selling age restricted products, using certain equipment.
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they also had a question on that list of whether or not you felt the company had no right to know what the employee did outside of work.Quoth telecom_goddess View Post11.After a tough day at work, I sometimes relax with a few drinks?? It's nobody's business what I do after work. A lot of those questions are uncalled for and I wouldn't answer them.
And I sure as hell wouldn't give out my usernames on websites, let alone passwords. My online life is none of their freakin business
heck even the military gives you some privacy outside of work
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And I would answer a big fat YES they have NO right to know what I do outside of work.Quoth PepperElf View Postthey also had a question on that list of whether or not you felt the company had no right to know what the employee did outside of work.
heck even the military gives you some privacy outside of work
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Quoth I8DaCookie View Post
They didn't think, period.
No kidding, Sherlock, did you think your applicants would be willing to hand over their PayPal account info?! Dumbasses.The city of Bozeman abruptly suspended the practice Friday, saying it "appears to have exceeded that which is acceptable to our community."I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem.
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They can really only ask if you are at least the required age, if there is a legit age restriction. I've seen "are you at least X years of age"; but they otherwise can't ask.Quoth I8DaCookie View PostAccording to a former manager, it is illegal to ask you what your age is. Came up after I was denied a job application because of my age (15 I think).I don't go in for ancient wisdom
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It means that they're worthy - Tim Minchin, "White Wine in the Sun"
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This is what we did at my old job. We weren't allowed to ask how old someone is as we could get slammed with age discrimination if that person didn't get the job, but we could ask "Are you at least 18 years old" if we were hiring kids and needed to know if they were a minor or not.Quoth BookstoreEscapee View PostThey can really only ask if you are at least the required age, if there is a legit age restriction. I've seen "are you at least X years of age"; but they otherwise can't ask.
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