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    I read a lot. Fantasy and science fiction mostly. In my reading, I've come across the occasional tale of a person who gets blasted into the future, walks into what now exists of their bank, and finds that the small savings account they had is worth some huge sum due to interest earnings over the last however many centuries. Futurama did it one episode.

    Real life, there's a thing called dormant accounts.

    Many banks charge fees if you stop using your account for 'X' amount of time. We're nicer than most banks. We only charge an inactivity fee if you have less than $100 in the account, only only after one year (plus a month, but we don't tell people that) of inactivity. Our state, however, has its own additional rule, however. After FIVE years of inactivity, if we can't get ahold of the customer to reactivate their account, it gets sent to the state as unclaimed funds.

    If you have a safe deposit box, the annual fee is taken automatically from your account. Well, if your account is dormant, then that next rent isn't going to be paid. After 6 months of overdue payment, we drill and inventory the box. After three years of no content, we send the contents to the state as unclaimed items.

    There are legal limits for how long we have to keep the records of closed safe deposit boxes. I'm not certain how many years it is now because in 2002, we started imaging all of our records electronically, and thus far have seen no reason to purge those records (though the older stuff is stored on harder to access compressed files of some sort).

    So, if you used to have a safe deposit box with us and it has been closed, due to inactivity on an account that you say had nearly a thousand dollars in it for so long that we no longer have a record of it, that means you had to have last done anything on your account over 18 and a half years ago (10 years electronic records of the paperwork for when we send contents to the state, 3 years holding the box contents before sending them to the state, 6 months of non-payment before that, 5 years of dormancy before we closed the account).

    I don't know the exact conversation as the former customer was taken aside by a manager, but apparently she moved out of state two decades ago, recently found her old safe deposit box key, went "oh yeah!" and leisurely wandered out this way a few months later while visiting a relative in the area, expecting her box to still be here.

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    Wow. Sucks to be her.

    She probably thinks the other key to the locker in the bus station is still good, too.
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    • #3
      This reminds me of a friend of the family who would buy stuff (like a dishwasher) and don't pick it up for a while (say a month) then get pissed that the store didn't keep her item for her.
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      • #4
        Quoth depechemodefan View Post
        This reminds me of a friend of the family who would buy stuff (like a dishwasher) and don't pick it up for a while (say a month) then get pissed that the store didn't keep her item for her.
        Oh gosh. At Big Box, we had a washer/dryer pair that we had not been able to deliver for close to a full year (no exaggeration), because the purchaser would always call a few days before her delivery in order to reschedule another month or two out. Drove us completely batty because it's not like we had infinite space in our warehouse for large appliances. Unfortunately, there was nothing the the SOP that would have allowed us to say that after a certain length of time, we can either deliver the damn things, cancel the order completely, or start charging storage fees.

        Granted, at least she called us instead of going AWOL, but after about 6 months we wished that she would. I'm sorry, most businesses are interested in MOVING product, whether they be appliances or bank accounts. As demonstrated by reality TV, even storage facilities don't want to keep your shit if you can't or won't pay the rental fees, and will have your stuff sold to make room.

        Eventually we did get rid of them and praise flying spaghetti monster, they didn't get returned (although our drivers would probably have gone on strike if that had happened ).

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        • #5
          aw... so you mean I can't put a penny in the bank and come back with enough in my account to pay for dinner at the end of the universe?


          If you have a safe deposit box, the annual fee is taken automatically from your account. Well, if your account is dormant, then that next rent isn't going to be paid. After 6 months of overdue payment, we drill and inventory the box. After three years of no content, we send the contents to the state as unclaimed items.
          That kinda happened to Mom, but much more quickly. As in less than a month.

          They never gave mom a signature card for it. I'm not sure if they were going to give her one later, once all new account was finished (they had to research what she wanted to do) or if they plain old forgot. So when she came back in to find out why the new account wasn't working (they hadn't bothered telling her they couldn't make it) she opted to take the SDbox out too.

          What box? It turned out, the box had been drilled out and sent downtown for storage. but they didn't tell mom that until sis took over the crusade. mom they accused of being senile and kept asking her "are you sure you had a safety deposit box with us?" (which is why sis was on crusade mode in the first place)

          It took about a week or so to get it back.

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          • #6
            Quoth depechemodefan View Post
            This reminds me of a friend of the family who would buy stuff (like a dishwasher) and don't pick it up for a while (say a month) then get pissed that the store didn't keep her item for her.
            The wholesale club's rule was we could hold an item for 24 hours so the customer could arrange transport for their big orders. No, we do not deliver.

            Occasionally, the managers would allow someone to go longer than that, but it had to be approved by the SM.
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            • #7
              Quoth bankworking View Post
              I read a lot. Fantasy and science fiction mostly. In my reading, I've come across the occasional tale of a person who gets blasted into the future, walks into what now exists of their bank, and finds that the small savings account they had is worth some huge sum due to interest earnings over the last however many centuries.
              Just don't leave a lightbulb on at the same time...

              I have heard of dormant bank account rules (I once had an account closed because of this I think, the bank had messed up and when I had closed it somehow it had then had 70 pence paid in which sat there while they sent me letters every few months). I would have assumed that an account that was paying regular bills wasn't dormant, so I'd be pretty upset in the safety deposit box example (assuming there'd have been the money in the account to pay all the years anyway).

              In terms of science fiction I guess we'll have to change the banking rules when we have stasis, extended lives and/or different life spans (other species), and travel over huge differences...

              Now I'm imagining Ripley not only being blamed for the cost of the Nostromo but having lost her bank accounts.

              Victoria J

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              • #8
                Quoth bankworking View Post
                I read a lot. Fantasy and science fiction mostly. In my reading, I've come across the occasional tale of a person who gets blasted into the future, walks into what now exists of their bank, and finds that the small savings account they had is worth some huge sum due to interest earnings over the last however many centuries.
                ". . . and then the operator came on and said `Please deposit one million dollars for the next 3 minutes' . . . "

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                • #9
                  Quoth Shalom View Post
                  ". . . and then the operator came on and said `Please deposit one million dollars for the next 3 minutes' . . . "
                  Please Mrs. Avery ... just got to tell her .. goodbye!
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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      Until recently, my bank account would not have any inactivity charges, but after five years of inactivity the state would come in and claim the entire amount. I don't know what happened to that law or if it's still on the books, but it isn't a problem any more in my bank. I still put a pittance into that account annually just in case.
                      Quoth Shalomar
                      . . . and then the operator came on and said `Please deposit one million dollars for the next 3 minutes' . . .
                      I've always had a problem with this joke (for it was written as a joke rather than a piece of ironic fiction). For one thing, how did he pay for the FIRST three minutes?
                      Last edited by Zoom; 09-21-2012, 10:27 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Quoth Victoria J View Post
                        (I once had an account closed because of this I think, the bank had messed up and when I had closed it somehow it had then had 70 pence paid in which sat there while they sent me letters every few months).
                        I had a friend who closed her checking account when she moved. This was back in the days when you could have an account where you paid a fee per check. When she closed out the account, they figured up her balance, and told her to write a check for what was left in it, which they then cashed, and gave her the amount.

                        For over a year, she would get a letter from the bank every month, telling her she was overdrawn by 10ยข - the fee for that last check she wrote to close the account. (Luckily at that time and at that bank there were no fees for being overdrawn by that amount). I thnk she finally had to have a relative who still lived in that area take in a dime and give it to them to make the letters stop.

                        Madness takes it's toll....
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                        • #13
                          Quoth PepperElf View Post
                          aw... so you mean I can't put a penny in the bank and come back with enough in my account to pay for dinner at the end of the universe?



                          That kinda happened to Mom, but much more quickly. As in less than a month.

                          They never gave mom a signature card for it. I'm not sure if they were going to give her one later, once all new account was finished (they had to research what she wanted to do) or if they plain old forgot. So when she came back in to find out why the new account wasn't working (they hadn't bothered telling her they couldn't make it) she opted to take the SDbox out too.

                          What box? It turned out, the box had been drilled out and sent downtown for storage. but they didn't tell mom that until sis took over the crusade. mom they accused of being senile and kept asking her "are you sure you had a safety deposit box with us?" (which is why sis was on crusade mode in the first place)

                          It took about a week or so to get it back.

                          Oh wow. That is wrong on so many levels. I really don't see how our own system would allow us to make that sort of mistake with a new box. Though it sounds like they didn't follow their own policies,and likely even laws if they never got a signature card filled out ('fraid I don't know what part of our own policy is legal compliance, and how much policy). But at least she knows that's a bank she does NOT want her money or personal items left with.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Victoria J View Post
                            Just don't leave a lightbulb on at the same time...

                            I have heard of dormant bank account rules (I once had an account closed because of this I think, the bank had messed up and when I had closed it somehow it had then had 70 pence paid in which sat there while they sent me letters every few months). I would have assumed that an account that was paying regular bills wasn't dormant, so I'd be pretty upset in the safety deposit box example (assuming there'd have been the money in the account to pay all the years anyway).

                            In terms of science fiction I guess we'll have to change the banking rules when we have stasis, extended lives and/or different life spans (other species), and travel over huge differences...

                            Now I'm imagining Ripley not only being blamed for the cost of the Nostromo but having lost her bank accounts.

                            Victoria J
                            What turned out to really happen was that she closed her account and the safe deposit box with one key, stating the second key was missing at time of closure, and years later (16 and a half as it turns out) found the missing key and went "oh! I need to get that box closed!" The account, at time of closing, had $56.72 in it. Not nearly enough for 18 years of rental fees, which, you are correct, should have actually kept the account active. (Archival actually found her old statements. Can't believe they had records from that long ago. We're not legally required to have them.)

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