Alleged pastor leaves note for waitperson

[Jester]

True, however, it was paid none-the-less. This doesn't make her any less of a cheapskate, but it's not like the server didn't get her tip.

Got the tip and lost her job. Seems like a fair trade.

The pastor went out of her way on multiple levels to try to stiff the server. Not adding to the auto-grat is fine, I have no problem with that. But to scratch out the auto-grat, which is company policy, NOT initiated by the server, AND to add that snarky self-righteous self-serving note, AND to complaint to the restaurant about being charged the auto-grat anyway after scratching it out (in effect trying twice to avoid tipping), AND to show no remorse for her selfish actions, AND to show no empathy for the server who is now unemployed? Pardon me, but this is NOT the work of a Godly woman. These are the actions of a cheapskate SC who hides behind her job and religion to try to excuse her pathetic cheapness.

I know many devout Christians. I have friends who are devout Christians. I have waited on devout Christians. This is not Christianity. This is cheapness and pettiness, pure and simple.

[PepperElf]

True, however, it was paid none-the-less. This doesn't make her any less of a cheapskate, but it's not like the server didn't get her tip.

I don't think the issue was ever over "they didn't tip" but "they wrote me this RUDE note"


oh and it's on PFB now too. which is interesting cos... the topic of whether or not employees should talk about customers has been launched: "So then any employee should be able to post anything about any customer at any time without any risk of repercussion? "

cos if that was the rule i think we'd all be fired.

[Mystic]

To clarify, her first call to the place was to complain that she got charged 18% anyway, even though she scratched it out.

So, she did tip 18%, but not because she didn't try hard to get out of it.

True, however, it was paid none-the-less. This doesn't make her any less of a cheapskate, but it's not like the server didn't get her tip.

[Raveni]

The pastor already paid the 18% on the bill so the server did get her tip. The 0 was for an additional tip. She also left $6 on the table.|

To clarify, her first call to the place was to complain that she got charged 18% anyway, even though she scratched it out.

So, she did tip 18%, but not because she didn't try hard to get out of it.

[PepperElf]

Actually....

She was trying to mark out the added gratuity by insisting she left the additional six dollars on the table (something that has been unsubstantiated anywhere, including the waitress who posted it).

Her comment was directed at the fact that she had to pay 18% automatically. The lack of additional tip was just insult to injury.

Of course the other problem with this is that... the pastor took it out on the server when this is the RESTAURANT'S policy. It's not as if the server just puts their own tip automatically on to it.

Pretty much the pastor took her anger out on the server instead of taking it up with management. and that's petty as all fuck.

as for the firing... the photo doesn't reveal the person's information that i can see. is there another version out there that shows the full name or something?



Actually I think the real issue wasn't that the pastor saw her personal information online... I think the REAL issue is that her own horrible actions were brought out into the light of day for others to see.

and that can be quite a slap to the ego.

[Racket_Man]

let's see:

Group of people go into Applebees and eat. Try and get seperate checks to avoid the 18% auto-grat. auto-grat still in effect.

One person decides they object to said auto-grat on basis of their job/religion and a snide remark is in order. tries to negate the auto-grat and adds snarky remark to their CC slip.

Server shows coworker said CC slip and co-worker takes photo of CC slips (with most of the persons name visible) and posts to internet.

Photo goes instantly VIRAL and the enveitable vitrol nastiness begins.

Original person finds out about CC slip being posted, trys to deflect with lame non-apology and excuses and possble LIE (the 6 Dollars she claimed she left)

co-worker (NOT the original server) gets fired for "violating a customers privacy" (legit)

YUP. for my real comments I will head over to Fratching.

[Kheldarson]

Actually....

She was trying to mark out the added gratuity by insisting she left the additional six dollars on the table (something that has been unsubstantiated anywhere, including the waitress who posted it).

Her comment was directed at the fact that she had to pay 18% automatically. The lack of additional tip was just insult to injury.

No, that's no excuse to be bashing Christianity. But all three articles I've found kinda agree that she was trying to avoid the tip altogether.

[Mystic]

People on the internet have been using this as a reason to bash Christianity without bothering to read all the information.

The pastor already paid the 18% on the bill so the server did get her tip. The 0 was for an additional tip. She also left $6 on the table.

Did the person who put this online deserve to be fired? Yes. Without question. She posted this persons name to a place on the internet that pretty much despises religion and the inevitable happened: this person started getting harassing phone calls and probably emails as well. The girl who posted it, who was a member of that website, should have known better yet she actually tries to defend her actions in every statement she's given and write it off as a little joke when people have actually gotten death threats from things like this hitting the internet.

That being said, am I defending the pastor? Absolutely not. The way she handled the situation was incredibly unprofessional for someone of her position. However, as unacceptable as her actions, they don't justify being harassed by internet trolls.

They both were showing a special type of stupid. :|

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

If this restaurant is willing to suck up to a cheapskate who stiffs the waitstaff on tips, and skips out on a portion of their bill because they don't feel like paying an auto-gratuity, then it's probably not such a terrible thing for the waitress to have been fired. Even though jobs are in short supply.

[Jay 2K Winger]

Sucks that Waitress got fired, but she's accepting it with relative grace.

Pastor, on the other hand, is still being an ass.

If you're going to cheap out on the tip, don't leave a note like that to justify it.

Besides, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." Pastor's got the second half of that saying already covered ("...and unto God the things that are God's."), so she needs to adhere to the first.

...except some people use that saying to avoid even paying taxes. :sigh:

[Sapphire Silk]

I'll agree the server showed poor judgement in how she posted the receipt . . . and she paid a heavy price. She seems to accept that, and I find her response to her firing more mature than the pastor's to being outed.

The pastor's original action is deplorable no matter how you look at it, and her defensiveness shows a lack of insight into her own actions, and a lack of accountability.

Pathetic.

[Kheldarson]

Actually, the pastor was a woman.

Which is part of what gets me. She was a single mom who found Jesus, started a church and her own business, and then wants to stiff on the tip? She should know better.

[PepperElf]

Personally I think the man was a dick to write that on his receipt.

If he didn't want to tip he could have just wrote "0" on it. He didn't NEED to add the personal message. What he did was a slap in the face and 100% uncalled for.

[firecat88]

I think the gal getting fired, while a little harsh, is kinda appropriate given their standards and most companies' standards. Rude or not, you don't embarrass a customer while identifying yourself as an employee. It's why we're careful on here, you know?

As an aside, I love how in follow ups, the pastor is trying to blow this off as a "lapse of judgement". Really?

I agree. There was great fail on both sides. Fail on part of the pastor for her "lapse in character and judgement" and fail on part of the girl who got fired. If you want to vent about a crappy customer to your very close friends in private, that's your business. Posting it for all the world to see? Not ok.

All that being said, though, I kinda feel like the pastor is less apologetic about her behavior and more about the fact that she got called out on it.

[Kheldarson]

I think the gal getting fired, while a little harsh, is kinda appropriate given their standards and most companies' standards. Rude or not, you don't embarrass a customer while identifying yourself as an employee. It's why we're careful on here, you know?

As an aside, I love how in follow ups, the pastor is trying to blow this off as a "lapse of judgement". Really?