They say it hurts more, but it's still better than having them dig around in my arm trying to get a vein.
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I have almost the opposite problem. I don't have any anxiety over needles, but I can't get some techs to listen to me when I say, "I don't have good veins in my elbows - just take stick it in the back of my hand." Many techs will say, "let's just try your arm first." And they rarely get a vein there, so they have to poke the back of my hand anyway.
They say it hurts more, but it's still better than having them dig around in my arm trying to get a vein.
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Every time I either a) go to the dentist, b) have blood drawn or c) have some other thing that involves needles, I tend to take along my iPod.
They've usually been very good with me having my ipod going while I'm in the chair for whatever reason. I'll wince when the needle is inserted, but that's about it. I just have to make sure I don't sing along or move around
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This is why I will only have my blood tests done when one particular nurse is on duty at my docs.
I am terrified of needles. I don't pass out though, I just freak out and either burst into tears or run screaming from anyone holding a needle near me.
Fantastic Nurse stands between me and my arm and keeps the needle out of sight. Half the time I don't even know she is done until she tells me. The whole time she is drawing blood, we will be talking about anything and everything.
People like the one you had to deal with should not be near patients until the have had some serious re-training and maybe been whacked with a clue, repeatedly.
How would he like his biggest fear to be shoved in his face and be told to get over it. Stupid numpty.
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Arghhh that guy makes me RAGE! I'd still complain about his attitude & comments, tbh.
Argh. OK, I keep typing things that I'd like to say & deleting them
but yes, I still would recommend complaining.
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I sympathize. I have vasovagal syncope - an involuntary response where my blood pressure plummets and I pass out. Happens often when I have blood drawn. Mostly the phlebotomists are good about letting me lie down so it's less likely to happen.
It's weird sorts of trauma that trigger it. A few weeks ago, I was visiting my dad in the hospital where he's having chemo. I've been there before, and this visit was no worse, but I had an episode and passed out in the chair.
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Yeah, I've never really liked needles either. These days I try to just control my breathing and NOT LOOK while they're doing it. Last time I had to worry about something like that was when they were removing some skin tags I had on my neck and a big one on my back.
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Fortunately, I haven't gone into hysterics over a blood test since I was sixteen, but I know what you mean. You mention that you have a phobia, and half the time you get a "nobody likes needles" or "you'll barely feel it" response.
True, no one likes needles, but I thought it might be a good thing to mention that I WILL be in a state of severe anxiety. And it is not about the pain. I KNOW the things are generally very quick and don't really hurt. It helps that apparently I have good veins and keep well hydrated (on purpose, pretty much for the sole reason of making the process as easy as possible... yes, I plan ahead for this if necessary) so I haven't had anyone miss since... well, since I was 16 and went into hysterics.
What people don't seem to get about phobias is that it's not a logic thing. That's why it's called a phobia.
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I'm sorry he was a jerk. I have no problem with needles at all--I'm the cheeriest, funniest patient--but I would not tell you "it's all in your head". I would not invalidate your feelings or the real physical response that comes along with the disorder.
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I don't really have a problem with them, although I've had a couple of bad experiences (the veins in my elbows are very reluctant to be stabbed!) but I'll always try & calm myself anyway before any kind of injection.
The ones that I usually tolerate best are dental ones as you just can't see what's happening so it's hard to wind yourself up over it; I did have problems with one dentist though who'd always start commentating "you'll feel a slight scratch annnnny seeeeecond NOW!" That'd make me jump & of course it'd go wrong and we'd have to go through it again!
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I hate needles. Hate them. It's hard to describe, but it doesn't matter how good the nurse is, I just start feeling bad... not faint, exactly, more the feeling before that, when everything seems to be coming at you from further away?
It's not the pain - usually there's just a 'scratch' and that's it. I don't know what it is. Any needle will do it, but if I have blood taken, it's much worse.
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I have a generalised panic disorder, and needles do make me more triggery than usual; but not as bad as someone with a specific panic disorder towards needles.
What has helped me in the past, other than understanding and caring phlebotomists (heh!):
Lying down rather than sitting
Looking away!
Distracting myself. Phlebotomists can often help with that, getting you talking about just about anything - preferably something important to you.
Taking 'prosthetic calmness' - a stuffed toy, a precious (in emotion) necklace, whatever.
If you have a prayer or meditation technique, that can help. Praying a Rosary, chanting the 'litany of fear' from Dune, meditating upon the Jewel in the Lotus - anything.
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Yeah. In the past, they've doped me on Ativan. Usually I request it, but I did so well with the DTAP vac at the office that I thought maybe the lab tech would be awesome and I wouldn't need it. Plus, I had to drive home afterward, and work for a couple hours this afternoon - I couldn't afford to be doped.
Fuck that. Next time I ask for the drugs and get my husband to drive.
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Tell the nurse. A lot of times she can get an order for some Ativan to calm the patient.Quoth Crescent Cat View PostJust out of curiosity, what is a phlebotomist supposed to do when a patient has a panic disorder and fear of needles?
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Just out of curiosity, what is a phlebotomist supposed to do when a patient has a panic disorder and fear of needles?
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