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As much as the SC's panic-inducing reaction was inappropriate regardless of wether it was a real fire or not, to me the craziest thing about this story is that a shower could set off a fire alarm! I'd personally be wondering of the hotel's residents are setting the alarms off on purpose, or at the very least if the hotel needs to spring for some updated alarms.
I'd bet "hot water shower" and "finiky alarms that sense heat."
Yeah. I guess the shower would have to be very hot to set of a heat sensor. I'd think there's something a little off there.
As for meandering out of a building on fire, at my first theatre we were shown a fire safety video of a fire at an English Football match where a fire broke out in the stands, and the entire section was burned to the ground in less than 15 minutes, meaning getting out you had a lot less time. Personally, any building I'm in that has a fire alarm go off, I treat it as real unless warned ahead of time that it's a drill, and I try to be out of the building in 5 minutes or less.
Yes. I'm with you 100% on that. We had CCTV footage from a cinema that burned down after a cigarette was left to smoulder in a bin. The place was a raging inferno in less than 10 minutes.
Also we had a hotel fire in the UK last year in which people died. I would hope and expect that the hotel would be evacuated as well as CRML's bar and the fire brigade summoned automatically. Our cinema's fire alarm is connected directly to the fire brigade - I would hope the hotel's was too.
Decent fire alarms can tell the diff between steam and smoke. Tell the hotel owner to fix it or you're going to charge for lost revenue for every false alarm.
There are a lot of places here that allow kids in before a certain time.
I'm also pretty sure CRML has mentioned the rule at his bar being the kids have to be gone by like 8:00pm and be eating a meal to be allowed in.
That and aren't most bars in the UK more of a bar/restaurant combo?
Yeah they have to be gone by a certain time, usually 8pm, but sometimes a family manages to sneak its way in without the staff noticing.
A lot of places in the UK are bar/restaurant combos. I would say my bar is 80% bar, 20% restaurant. A lot of pubs in the UK allow children as well. I have no problem with kids being in the bar, as long as the parent realises they are responsible for them and are aware of what kind of environment they are bringing their children into.
I once had a customer complain at me on a Friday night because a large bacholorette party was making her family uncomfortable. Who in their right minds would bring their kids into a bar on a Friday night??
Anyone else wonder why she had her kids with her in a bar? ...
There are a lot of places here that allow kids in before a certain time.
I'm also pretty sure CRML has mentioned the rule at his bar being the kids have to be gone by like 8:00pm and be eating a meal to be allowed in.
That and aren't most bars in the UK more of a bar/restaurant combo?
We are seperated from the hotel by a very small car park. The hotel curves around this car park and about three floors of it are above the bar. (I'm crap at explaining things like this), so if there was a fire in the hotel it could spread to the bar very easily, hence the fire alarms being connected and I explain the hotel as being "upstairs"
Its unbelieveable the amount of people who think we are the hotel, even though we are seperated and have large neon signs. It's kinda nice at times though, because it means that sometimes when people complain, they write to the hotel and not us
Well it's connected to the hotel, so they might be a little relaxed with families and all that. Maybe have a small arcade area, or at the very least Burgers and Fries?
Actually, it's not connected to the hotel, technically, as in previous threads, CRML has had to tell people they're seperate from the hotel, and don't do room service, and other such things. Also, the business appears to have a licence that allows children until something like 6:00 pm.
This thread is all too fitting, since there have been so many fires here in the last couple of months.
Most notebly the loss of a very historic (and my personal favourite area) part of the city.
I was across the street two and three days after the fire, as my birthday was planned at the bar directly across the street from where the blaze hit.
What's left is nothing more than a pile of rubble.
Anyone else wonder why she had her kids with her in a bar? ...
Well it's connected to the hotel, so they might be a little relaxed with families and all that. Maybe have a small arcade area, or at the very least Burgers and Fries?
Some of the best finger-type food is at bars (and kids love finger-food)... The bar me and my friends used to go to had the BEST chicken-fingers in town.
I'd bet "hot water shower" and "finiky alarms that sense heat."
As for meandering out of a building on fire, at my first theatre we were shown a fire safety video of a fire at an English Football match where a fire broke out in the stands, and the entire section was burned to the ground in less than 15 minutes, meaning getting out you had a lot less time. Personally, any building I'm in that has a fire alarm go off, I treat it as real unless warned ahead of time that it's a drill, and I try to be out of the building in 5 minutes or less. And I don't stand right next to the building like so many people around here love to do. It's like Boozy said, they don't seem to care. "Gee, the building's on fire. I wanna be able to get in first ahead of everyone else, so I'll stand as close as I can get."
At the cinema we are trained that people need leadership in an evacuation situation, because they will either do nothing or, worse, head towards the fire to see what is going on.
I would have thought that in the event of an alarm, evacuation of a bar/restauarant was mandatory.
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