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iradney
05-18-2007, 02:40 PM
Ok. TTO and I share a 3 bedroom townhouse with his sister, S, and a friend ours, R.
The 3 bedroom townhouse has a one car garage and a one car driveway. We have 3 cars.

When we viewed the property, the agent assured us we could park on the grass strip for our 3rd car. (see attached piccie). By parking on the grass, we are blocking NO-ONE. We were given no documentation pertaining to codes of conduct or rules or anything.

We moved in beginning of November 06. We have had no problems, no complaints (we dont really "party" - unless you count DoTA :rolleyes: ). Then, the in-laws came to visit for Mother's Day. They're travelling Southern Africa in their neat mobile home, and popped in by us for a few days. They parked in OUR driveway. We just put 2 cars on the grass strip and one in the garage. Inconveniencing no-one. There is NO visitor's parking, btw, and there will be none.

But, all of a sudden, the neighbours have a problem with it, and kicked up a fuss to such an extent that my poor inlaws felt very unwelcome, and left on Tuesday (they arrived on Friday).

Then all of a sudden, our parking was an issue. Our neighbour (who is the chairperson of the HOA) offered to let a car park on his driveway. Only problem is, he parks his car in his garage, so whenever he wants to pull in or out, we have to move the car.

Now, in our house, TTO and S work from home, R and I work call centre shifts. So we're not always 9 - 5. R is more often than not graveyard so he gets home late and likes to sleep late. He got home late last night, and parked on the neighbour's driveway. 6:30am this morning, we get woken up by the neighbour wanting to pull his car out. I do it for R since he's completely comatose and I don't want to wake him. But TTO is now fed up.

I email a friend of mine who is a legal secretary AND on an HOA herself, outlining our problems. She says that it is up to the landlord to organise parking for us, since the agent promised us parking for 3 cars. Not only that, but we must yell at him for hiring agents that use misrepresentation and bad management to trick people into signing leases so they can get their commission.

I also got a copy of the HOA rules and Code of Conduct. They are obviously pulled from other complexes, since the CoC makes mention of a communal pool that we do NOT have. Also, they are not dated, and contradict each other. For example, one says the speed limit is 40kph, the other says 20kph. One says you may not have more than 2 dogs without written permission, the other says you may not have ANY dogs without written permission. (we have a dog, and no, we will not get rid of him).

So TTO has organised a meeting with the landlord for Tuesday. We seem to be the only ones who are being "targeted" with regards to the parking thing, since we see other people who park on the street with no apparent repercussions. Of course, those people are home OWNERS, not tenants, and obviously older than us. I'm really hoping the meeting is for the evening so that I can sit in on the proceedings and insert my two cents, as this is utter nonsense. We pay our lease, we keep our noses clean, our music down and our property clean. Why pick on us?

ArenaBoy
05-18-2007, 05:47 PM
HOAs if anything annoy me to a bitter end. I have had too many arguments with them when I've visited friends in their areas. It always seems to be parking too, it got to the point that if they harassed me I'd point out town ordinances on them. Always got them in a steam too. As for why they pick on you and TTO, you mentioned that everyone there is older and I always think that there are older folks who assume that just because your young equals to youth being stupid. I've lost counts of how many times I've had ageism played on me (Most memorable was being detained at the US border a few weeks ago when I was returning from Toronto.) Good luck dealing with the HOA, bunch of dictators IMO.

As for the cheese, would you like cheddar, Gouda, or Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?

justZu
05-18-2007, 06:08 PM
Ugh, HOAs are nosy, nasty old biddies with no lives of their own and cranky guys suffering from tiny-penis syndrome. When we are finally able to move out of our cr@ppy neighborhood into a nice house, you better believe it will never be into a neighborhood with an HOA.

It stinks that the neighbors made your in-laws feel so unwelcome that they left. That is terrible. I bet your HOA neighbors are SC's, too. It seems to go together, nosyness, bossiness and an inflated sense of entitlement.



Oh yeah, and as for cheese, I'll bring some meunster and a little colbyjack. :lol:

iradney
05-18-2007, 08:02 PM
aaaaaaaah cheese :) I'd like some camembert. brie and deep fried haloumi please :)
I parked my car on the grassy patch tonight. I'm waiting for the chairperson to say something about it. Then I'll politely, but very very firmly, let him have it. I'll let you know what happens!

tollbaby
05-18-2007, 08:17 PM
OMG deep fried haloumi!!! *bliss*I've never met anybody else who's even HEARD of Haloumi! It's hard to get here (Canada) but there's a cheese shop on the market that carries it :) A vegetarian cookbook I bought that was printed in Oz has many recipes calling for it, so I went off in search of it. Now it's one of my favorite protein replacements :D

To keep things on-topic, my ex got yelled at by his condo association for having a bicycle on his balcony. Bastards. (we weren't allowed to have clothes lines in our back yards in the community we used to live in either)

tacohuman
05-18-2007, 11:46 PM
mmmm halloumi. there's not much better than a nice slab of grilled halloumi with lamb sausage on a bed of mint.

unless of course you substitute halloumi for queso majorero--the best cheese in the whole world! i can eat huge wedges of it all by itself and be happy. of course, at around $20/lb, that gets to be an expensive habit.

Lyse
05-19-2007, 02:33 AM
I lucked out with my condo. The entire community is only seven units, and the president of the HOA (pretty grand title for something that he spends about an hour on a month :D ) is a laid back guy. When my next-door neighbors put up a fence in back for their dogs, I was the only one that they actually *had* to get permission from since I am the only other unit in this building. (Needless to say, they got a fence and I get free doggie playtime when they are out.) When our current president took over, he had everyone over to discuss what we felt like were issues, and then within a week had an updated Code of Conduct. It came up to for pages, single sided and were mostly common sense. The more I hear of other places and their drama-llama farming, the more thankful I am.

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I couldn't help myself. They were so big and round and beautiful, I just had to touch them! Then she started screaming "MY EYES!, MY EYES!" and ruined the mood.

Andara Bledin
05-20-2007, 07:50 AM
Ugh. I have never had the misfortune of being subjected to an HOA, and I already know enough to be very, very wary of ever having to deal with one.

I once ran into a forum where the poster was looking for a type of hedge that would be good enough to keep a child from getting through it, since the person's house was backed by a busy street and the HOA refused to allow them to build a fence because it would ruin the view. Of the busy street. Even though another house in the area had a fence. The poster was young and a single parent and the rest of the houses were owned by retirees.

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Rahmota
05-20-2007, 05:24 PM
One of the things I love about living on my own farm in the country is there is now Home Owners Gestapo like that. Those groups are just nasty ill temnpered control freaks who want an excuse to control and intefere in everyone else's life.

I am very sorry for you having to be under their thuimb and wish you all the best of luck in gaining your freedom from the evil ones.

Kiwi
05-20-2007, 05:33 PM
When we move into our apartment, we are starting up the HOA (all of the units were sold within 2 months) so there is no HOA at the moment. Its good though it means we can get in on the "ground floor" so to speak. It made me very very weary though!

Andara Bledin
05-21-2007, 12:33 AM
Generally speaking, the people who end up being most active with HOAs or tenants groups are usually the worst people in the neighborhood. All of the best people usually end up being chased off by the nasty ones, and then it's just the nasty ones left.

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