View Full Version : Inspired by the famous people thread: Do your feelings about an actor as a person...
GayleShy
06-09-2007, 09:32 PM
make you want to watch/not watch a movie that they're in?
A good example for me is Russel Crowe. I hate the man as a person, but I love how he acts. He is a very good actor, even if he's a total **** *** when he's being himself. I try very hard to not think about the person he is and focus on the person he's pretending to be.
Broomjockey
06-10-2007, 11:24 AM
I try not to let their personal lives colour my views of their work for two reasons.
1. If they were anyone else, would what happened even have been news? Ooo, guy cheats on wife with nanny! Guy assualts hotel employee with telephone! These events wouldn't be national news except guess the people involved...
2. I think about how actors who play villians are treated sometimes. People identify the character with the actor, and assume the actor to be like the character, and treat them horribly, just because they can't tell fiction from reality. It's the same, but reversed, I think.
NightAngel
06-10-2007, 05:25 PM
No, I don't usually. There are certain actors/actresses I can't stand in real life whom are very good at their jobs. That would be like not eating at the best restaurant in town because the chef had an affair.
Now, in the case of someone like Paris Hilton who is a terrible actress AND a despicable person- then no, I won't bother.
MystyGlyttyr
06-10-2007, 05:56 PM
It depends, to be honest.
Someone like, say, Michael Moore, who I don't agree with because of the enormous amounts of fake propaganda he puts out (I'm not commenting on his politics, only the fact that not only does he fake situations for his movies, he's not even good at making it not obvious), so I wouldn't pay to see anything of his because I don't want to give him any of my money to use for his...purposes. If it comes on free TV, though, I might look out of curiousness, but that would be it. Most of the time, though, if it's a movie I really want to see, I don't particularly care.
Though to be honest, I don't really go to the movies that often because I don't feel like paying an extra dollar a ticket so some overpreened actor can have his own personal shaman blessing his drinking water. There was an article I read about "perk packages" that actors get and it said that so much is spent on stupid requests from actors while making movies that anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar of your movie ticket pays for it. This included things like three babysitters for one baby, a hairdresser for a bald man, a full-sized basketball court being built on each shooting location, every time they move to a new location, etc. Basically, no, I'm not going to give anyone my money so they can have that. Same reason I don't buy DVDs. I figure EVENTUALLY, enough film companies will lose enough money that they'll stop giving in to the psychotic demands of their actors and maybe then the SC-isms will go down a bit. Just my wishful thinking.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that people can't ask for some comfort items when they're in some weird locale filming for 16 hours a day...I personally would want a Playstation and a couple of wrestling tapes...but I consider that VERY different than using up a lot of space and excess money demanding I have my own ring and two wrestlers being paid to entertain me live.)
AirHostess
06-10-2007, 08:31 PM
I love David Tennant (Dr Who) and John Simm (Life on Mars) They seem like really nice down to Earth guys are they are cute too ;)
XCashier
06-10-2007, 08:41 PM
I love David Tennant ....They seem like really nice down to Earth guys are they are cute too ;)
Tennant's a cutie, but his Doctor doesn't quite click for me. Perhaps if I saw the third season, I might like him better (some roles take time to grow into). I did, however, like him as Barty Crouch, Jr. Scary crazy!
cinema guy
06-10-2007, 08:50 PM
Tennant definitely gets to stretch his acting muscles in series 3, rather then run around with a silly grin on his face.
The only actor that I can think off that I wouldn't want to watch is Tom Cruise, but if he was in something like Minority Report or Born on the Fourth of July, rather than MI:57, it proabably wouldn't bother me. So actually its more subject matter than actor that will turn me off.
I think the problem is, the vast majority of actors/actresses do not act like this, trust me I know. Attiutude is NOT permitted, you will be shown the door faster than you can say primadonna. Until you hit the A or B list in movies or theatre you just can not act that way. No one would hire you, there are thousands of humble polite people who would do anything for your part.
Most actors (and I know a few who are full time professionals who are not famous but make a decent living) work at acting full time with another part time job, they will go to auditions from 8am -6pm up to 6 days a week. They also have to fit in dance/singing/voice/acting classes as well as paying the bills when they arent in work. They are constantly rejected for being slightly wrong, they dont have time to develope attitudes .
Once you hit the A or B list and get some money behind you, I think alot of them think of it as pay back time for all the hard slog that the industry has put them through. The industry makes billions every year and they want their slice of the pie. It TOTALLY does not excuse their behaviour, but if they demand it and they get it.... why would they stop being so demanding.
As Dr Phil would say (and I cant believe Im quoting him) you treat people how to treat you. They CAN get away with acting the way they do, so why would they change their behaviour?
I try not to let their personal lives colour my views of their work for two reasons.
1. If they were anyone else, would what happened even have been news? Ooo, guy cheats on wife with nanny!
I tend to hold celebrities to the same standards I apply to people in real life: if a man's wife can't trust him, why should I?
That said, I seem pretty much immune from celebrities. Not long ago at work, some people were talking about some Brad Pitt guy. I said, "I don't know him. Does he work in tech, or is he upstairs?"
BookstoreEscapee
06-11-2007, 01:10 AM
The industry makes billions every year and they want their slice of the pie.
If I were making millions for playing at being someone else I'd consider that a pretty good slice.
Broomjockey
06-11-2007, 06:12 AM
I tend to hold celebrities to the same standards I apply to people in real life: if a man's wife can't trust him, why should I?
I agree, but all I meant was this: How many people get away with affairs? How many people have an affair, get caught, get divorced, but don't have it affect every aspect of their lives because they're able to hide it? If they weren't a celebrity, their divorce and reasons for it would never be made a public issue. There's probably a slew of actors who continually get bit parts in things people watch who cheat, but because they're just background, no one cares, so no one finds out. And you can't just ask your mechanic, or your doctor "Hey, so got divorced recently?" whereas for celebrities, a few minutes search on the net will probably yeild you that person's entire dating history. If they weren't a celebrity, you'd never know what they did offscreen, and more than likely, not care as long as they do a good job.
Hopefully I've now explained myself a bit better.
If I were making millions for playing at being someone else I'd consider that a pretty good slice.
I could say the same things about athletes though, sure alot of it is natural born talent and genetics but most of it is hard work and determination. But ultimately, they are just playing a game.
I dont think being great at hockey should net Marcus Naslund 6 mill a year (especially after the shocking performances he has put in). I also dont think most CEO's are worth the money they make, I certainly have seen how useless out excecutive director at the gallery (who made 100,000 a year) was, she had no real job, she was pretty much a figure head and that was it. She spent her time faffing around the office and going to events to be seen.
Some actors put in months of training for a role, changing their bodies physically, sometimes endangering their health etc.
Im not trying to talk up actors, just saying there is a whole realm of people who are WAY OVERPAID for what their jobs are when you break it down. I dont think actors should be pointed out as anything out of the ordinary... hell have you ever met a person who thinks that polititions in general are underpaid...
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