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FuzzyKitten99
07-17-2007, 05:22 PM
Post yours here!
Any and all theories welcome!
I love these kinds of discussions because it really makes you take a look at the tiny clues that Jo leaves in her books, but drives you nuts because you just don't know for sure!

My theories:
I have two Snape theories.
Snape may very well be 'good'. However he could be like Azrael, where he is really just playing both sides and waiting to see who is victorious then say he was with the 'winner' all along.
The other theory I have about Snape is it wasn't really him, that it was someone else, using Polyjuice potion, posing as Snape, and he's really locked up somewhere, or even dead.

Harry will not die. Good always trumps evil.

Neville's parents will be 'cured' once Bellatrix is killed (I think she will be-by Neville). I think she placed a pretty nasty spell/hex/charm on them other than just torturing them, and that it will be lifted once she's gone. Remember in #5, Alice kept giving Neville the gum wrappers from "Drooble's Best Blowing Gum"? An interesting point taken from a couple different sources, is that when you reorganize the letters in that name, you get "Gold Bribe Below St Mungo's". Knowing Jo's writing and her love of words and puzzles, I believe this to be a real connection.

Neville will prove to be a very foreboding wizard who really

Zacharias Smith will be an important character because I think he may be related to Hepzibah Smith, direct descendant of Helga Hufflepuff.

Ron & Hermione either get engaged or even elope. (it's a stretch, but kind of a fun idea)

Draco is killed somehow, possibly by Crabbe and/or Goyle.

Dudley is really a wizard too (this is what the dementors made him see as his worst fear, and his father finding out about it), but Petunia chose for him to abstain from that lifestyle, not because she hated her sister, but because she felt that it was too dangerous. I don't think Petunia hates/hated her sister at all. I think that she was jealous, though she loved her sister. But then saw what living in the wizarding world meant when Voldemort was still in power, and didn't want anything to do with a life that took her sister away from her. Rather than embrace her sister's unique abilities, she shunned them and made all sorts of excuses and reasonings for her dislike out of plain jealousy.

NightAngel
07-17-2007, 06:07 PM
I also believe that Harry won't die. I believe that Ron will.

I read some time back that Viktor Krum comes back in the last book- I believe Ron will die and Hermoine will go with Krum in the end. Of course, I read that long enough ago that it may have changed 10 times since then...

It is entirely possible that Dudley is also a wizard. But, at the least he's a Squib and it seems Squibs are subject to many of the same problems wizards are so that could explain the Dementor bit. My Mom believes that Dudley's Mom is actually going to prove to be a powerful witch. It's possible...

I've always believed that Snape is one of the good guys. He's too easy to peg as evil and there is a whole lot of history between him and Dumbledore that we don't know. And if it isn't revealed in the last book I'm writing a nasty letter to J.K. Rowling!
On your Polyjuice Potion theory, wouldn't it be great fun if all this time Snape was really James? But, honestly that would really be pushing it and I'd be peeved if it were so.

There has to be some conclusion to what happened to Sirius Black also. I really don't think he's dead but that he's trapped in whatever that veil thingy is.

I think there is a whole lot more to the Luna Lovegood angle also. I have no idea what right now but she is obviously more than she seems.

As for Draco Malfoy I believe that after the whole thing in HBP he's going to return and somehow help Harry and crew. He did NOT want to do what his father and Voldemort made him do and I think, maybe, he'll turn on them. No, I do NOT think Draco is good- I think he's bad and feeling quite betrayed...

Another possibility that I've mulled over is that Neville is really the Chosen One and perhaps Voldemort was somehow fooled into focusing on Harry. If Snape wasn't really 'listening outside the door' when the prediction was made- but actually there WITH Dumbledore and Trelawny- and then misinformed Lord NoNose... well, you get where I'm going.

I also don't necessarily believe that Dumbledore is dead either. I think it's quite likely that it was a clever ruse by Dumbledore and Snape.

FuzzyKitten99
07-17-2007, 06:23 PM
It is entirely possible that Dudley is also a wizard. But, at the least he's a Squib and it seems Squibs are subject to many of the same problems wizards are so that could explain the Dementor bit. My Mom believes that Dudley's Mom is actually going to prove to be a powerful witch. It's possible...
Dudley can't be a Squib-A Squib is a non-magic person born to a wizarding family. The opposite of a "muggleborn/mudblood". Example: Lily has always been said to be 'muggleborn', as both her parents were muggles. So Dudley's parents or at least one, would have had to been magical and come from a magical family, then he born non-magic, to be considered a squib. I hope that makes sense! :lol:

Emrld
07-17-2007, 06:23 PM
End of Half Blood the locket was collect signed by the initals R.A.B.

Ummmm Sirius brother's name started with an R . . . .could it be he was killed cause he found a few bits of Soul . . .

I also have to wonder if Harry's scar isn't actually a bit of soul of Tom Riddle (I like Dumbledore's way of not letting him be different)

Can't wait to see how the Dursely's react to Harry, Ron, and Hermione all staying at Pivet Drive . . . I don't think outside of the start of the book and that part of things the Dursely's will be a part of the book.

Also, Dudders didn't see anything - he just felt all the happiness gone and the Wizarding Community is insisting on calling him a Muggle . . .if he were a Wizard it would have been brought to light before now - as it is how they are born, not what they become as they grow.

NightAngel
07-17-2007, 06:48 PM
Dudley can't be a Squib-A Squib is a non-magic person born to a wizarding family...

Uhm... if they were a completely non-magic/muggle family then how did Lily wind up being a Witch? Besides, like I said about my Mom's theory- if Lily was a Witch then who's to say Petunia isn't one also? Thusly making Dudley a Squib. I'd have to re-read the book but it seems to me that Dudley saw the Dementors so he would have to be either a Wizard or a Squib.

And, at what point does a 'muggle family' become a 'wizarding family'? How many magic users do they have to produce before getting that title?
One would think that it must have been in Lily and Petunia's bloodline somewhere even if it hadn't surfaced in generations.

After perusing the net a bit I see that this is actually quite an ongoing debate in the HP community. LOL!

I also saw someone musing as to whether Snape has a family in hiding somewhere... interesting thought...

*off to find my copy of Order...*

FuzzyKitten99
07-17-2007, 07:13 PM
Uhm... if they were a completely non-magic/muggle family then how did Lily wind up being a Witch? Besides, like I said about my Mom's theory- if Lily was a Witch then who's to say Petunia isn't one also? Thusly making Dudley a Squib. I'd have to re-read the book but it seems to me that Dudley saw the Dementors so he would have to be either a Wizard or a Squib.

And, at what point does a 'muggle family' become a 'wizarding family'? How many magic users do they have to produce before getting that title?
One would think that it must have been in Lily and Petunia's bloodline somewhere even if it hadn't surfaced in generations.

Based on the definitions in the books, Jo's site, and other discussions, witches & wizards can be born into families with absolutely no magic history whatsoever. This is the term "Muggleborn" or "Mudblood" as the purebloods will say. Hermione is muggleborn because both her parents are muggles, and as far as Hermione knows, she has no other magical relatives-or she would have metioned them. There is the possiblity of distant relatives and cousins that she doesn't know about, but that is getting a little too deep into it all.

Lily is the same. Both her parents were muggles, and as far as she knew, none of her other relatives were magical either. The term "squib" is basically the opposite of a muggleborn, where magical abilities run through the family, even though one or more may marry outside the wizarding community. Seamus Finnegan is a 'Half-blood' because his dad is a muggle, and his mum is a witch. Yet he still turned out to be a wizard. Now, I don't know for sure if he would be deemed a 'squib' if he hadn't turned out to be a wizard because it would kind of be a 50/50 chance depending on genetics. I believe 'squib' is reserved for those who are born to parents who are both magical, and they themselves are not, such as Filch and Mrs. Figg.

NightAngel
07-17-2007, 07:32 PM
I just re-read the first few chapters of Order and really- it was left infuriatingly open. Dudley is never given the chance to say if he actually SAW the Dementors and whatnot. Although he does try and keep his face covered from the Dementor...

Emrld
07-17-2007, 07:45 PM
ok . . .but what about the court case being Harry used magic while underage in front of a Muggle. The fact that the court sees him as a Muggle counts for something. I do not recall any story lines so far in which status changed from Muggle to Magical.

FuzzyKitten99
07-17-2007, 08:05 PM
I just re-read the first few chapters of Order and really- it was left infuriatingly open. Dudley is never given the chance to say if he actually SAW the Dementors and whatnot. Although he does try and keep his face covered from the Dementor...

I think it isn't a matter of whether or not he can physically see them, but he does feel the affect of their "attacks". If I remember correctly (without the chance to look it up) he describes the feeling just as any wizard would.

NightAngel
07-18-2007, 01:36 AM
Ultimately it really doesn't matter because Dudley would be utterly useless in a battle against Voldemort or a Death Eater or vicious fluff bunnies- even if he was a wizard.

Greenday
07-18-2007, 02:39 AM
I think...someone nukes England and they all die.

But realistically, I say...Ginny dies, Draco becomes good, Snape dies as an evil man, Voldemort dies, and Ron and Hermoine hook-up. Oh, Charlie dies too.

FuzzyKitten99
07-18-2007, 02:50 AM
Ultimately it really doesn't matter because Dudley would be utterly useless in a battle against Voldemort or a Death Eater or vicious fluff bunnies- even if he was a wizard.

only cuz he can't eat them! :lol:

Ljt09863
07-18-2007, 04:39 AM
I think harry does die. if he dies, the story is over. i think, Voldemort kills harry, but Neville is the one who has to kill voldemort, and he does, to everybody's surprise. i think that Hagrid dies.

Fera Festiva
07-18-2007, 08:49 AM
My predictions, such as they are:

- Snape is neither 100% good nor 100% evil. As far as he can, he works for himself, taking the classic Slytherin route of doing whatever benefits number one. However, he is bound by his life debt to James Potter, and almost all his actions concerning Harry/Voldemort/the war can be explained in the light of that.

- I don't think Harry will necessarily die as such, but I wonder if he won't either (a) go behind the veil or (b) die and be resurrected. I know death is supposed to be irreversible in the Potterverse, but the Avada Kedavra curse is supposed to be unblockable, so we already know Harry is a special case.

- Not so much a prediction as a hope crossed with a logical guess: some subplot of the book will involve love potions. My argument: in every book, new potions, charms etc that are introduced early on end up being pivotal later. (Polyjuice potion is introduced in book 2, but isn't intrinsic to the plot until book 4; a throwaway mention of a broken vanishing cabinet earlier in the series is suddenly very significant in book 6.) There was an awful lot about love potions in book 6 that didn't really add anything to the story - Ron took some by mistake, and it was shown that Merope used love potion, but what was the point of those subplots? So I would hope that all of that leads somewhere.

And because I want to make one prediction that comes true:

- RAB is Regulus Black. If this isn't right, I will be very, very surprised. :D

FuzzyKitten99
07-18-2007, 12:55 PM
oohh, good ones Fera! Your theories about the potions are really intriguing.

Fera Festiva
07-18-2007, 01:24 PM
Bear in mind I am online ALL THE TIME, and most of that time I'm on Livejournal. :D

cinema guy
07-19-2007, 09:23 AM
How about this:

http://irregularwebcomic.net/1632.html

draggar
07-19-2007, 12:25 PM
My prediction is that the book will begin with......



Page one

and end with.......



The end. ;)

My guess is that there will be a lot of magic, Harry does some amazing things and saves people, and some people die.

NightAngel
07-19-2007, 04:01 PM
My prediction is that the book will begin with......


Wow, that's astounding! It's like a trip into JK Rowling's mind! Did you come up with that all by yourself?
:lol:

AirHostess
07-19-2007, 05:48 PM
I'm really excited now!

My boyfriend says Harry will die but I hope not.

FuzzyKitten99
07-19-2007, 07:02 PM
Bear in mind I am online ALL THE TIME, and most of that time I'm on Livejournal. :D

I listen to mugglecast when I get a chance, if that says anything about me... :o

I am listening to HBP on CD right now, trying to time the end of it to tomorrow night.