Staggering

[crazylegs]

People wonder why we have a problem with underage drinking in this country, they obviously havn't been served in this shop http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/7071825.stm . Every friday and saturday night I confiscate so much alcohol off kids that would otherwise end up with them being totally inebriated then doing alsorts of stupid things.

[Greenday]

The problem isn't the shops selling kids alcohol. They are going to get it regardless. The problem is parents tend to be too stupid to teach their kids how to be responsible about it. I've drank alcohol since I was 15. I've thrown up three times. I've learned from those times. My mom's taught me never to drive drunk and I don't do it. Now when I drink, I do it where I can just crash at the person's house or room, or I just don't drink a lot. It's simple, all because my mom taught me how to drink responsibly.

[BlaqueKatt]

heh-my mom's "responsible drinking" lecture was the following"

"if you do anything stupid, it's your own damn fault.
if anything happens to you, it's your own damn fault for being drunk.
I do not have bail money.
you puke you clean it up-have fun honey"


I've only had to clean up my own mess once, and have never gotten drunk enough that I was not in control of a situation, or in a situation I didn't want to be in/shouldn't be in.

the stupid stuff-hell I do that sober :angel:

[blas]

Crazylegs, I love reading your posts. It's good to have a law enforcement POV around here......

This may or may not be factual, but I truly believe that Wisconsin is the highest underage drinking state. The amount of kids who have fake IDs or drink underage is alarming. The amount of kids who already have one or more DUIs on their records is alarming. Not only that, but most of these kids refuse their treatment or go through it and just keep drinking.

I know a guy who already has two DUIs and just got caught AGAIN drinking and driving. Just because you take their license away doesn't mean they won't still drive. It's so alarming. These kids need to go to prison.

[Killer Bees]

I used to be a big drinker in my younger days, but now a bottle of red wine will last me 6 months. Mostly I use it for cooking with a couple of swigs for me while I'm there :D

My son is 16 now and I give him Strongbow occasionally. But because I don't treat alcohol like it's the devil, it's no biggie in our house. He got drunk once and felt like complete shit the next day. I said to him, "welcome to the world of hangovers" :lol:

Since then, he only drinks it if I provide it. He prefers to stay sober because it feels better and when he does have a drink, he has a couple and that's it. Sometimes I just feel like having a drink and then my son will join me, but it's only every 3 months at best that it happens.

Alcohol is expensive and I prefer to put food on the table with my money.

[Andara Bledin]

There are two major contributing factors to underage drinking.

Number one is that drinking is taboo. We often put so much emphasis on how "bad" it is for people to drink underage, that it gets a huge push as a really easy way to "rebel" against authority. If more people would be more honest and forthright with kids about alcohol and cigarettes and other drugs regarding what they are, what they do, and the like, we'd have a lot less trouble with addiction.

Number two, and the far larger problem currently, is that a great many teens and twenty-somethings are far too sheltered through their childhoods. They have so much parental supervision through their childhoods that when they get to a point where they're on their own, they have no facility to cope. They've had adults moderating their entire lives and when it comes time to be out on their own, they get in a sink-or-swim situation without the proper mental toolset to deal with it.

^-.-^

[ArenaBoy]

Number one is that drinking is taboo. We often put so much emphasis on how "bad" it is for people to drink underage, that it gets a huge push as a really easy way to "rebel" against authority. If more people would be more honest and forthright with kids about alcohol and cigarettes and other drugs regarding what they are, what they do, and the like, we'd have a lot less trouble with addiction.


Growing up in MI it's common (I'm sure that every state that's next to Canada has kids that do it) to go up to Canada and get drunk. You can apply the putting on emphasis tab on how bad something is and you can be sure that people are going to rebel against it. Be it sex or booze. It's also a part of curiosity, kids are going to think "What's so bad about it? I should try and see for myself."

[Plaidman]

My mom had a good think when it came to booze for my sister and I. If we wanna get drunk, fine. We wanna get drunk with friends, fine. All keys go to her, all kids STAY there. Period.

Only my sister took her up on that. I had one taste of beer when I was younger, and got a little drunk on my 21st birthday. (As one mod can tell cause he had to delete my rather bad thread which I don't recall putting up :) ). Since my 21st birthday, I only had a SIP of beer/wine/harder stuff. I do have the stomach for it, I just don't choose to beecause I hate the damnable taste.

I did got told off by a friend online. Badily. Really badily. So I drank a half-dozen martinies and 1/5th a bottle of vodka before my sister and mom basically tackled me amd ripped the bottles away from me. That was all within 20 minutes. Puked once.

But it worked. I never had the need to drink, and I really really hate the taste of it.

But I WILL oneday find a place that makes flaming Dr. Peppers. Cause I really really wanna try it, and I hear they taste like the real deal. Plus they on fire.

[DGoddessChardonnay]

Mom's rule on drinking was pretty much this:

Do it at home and don't talk about it outside the house. . . . and for Dog's sake, don't let the Stepdrac find it out or she'll try to have you committed (and that was not far from the truth.)

Yes, I did some a touch of drinking when I was in high school . . . usually an occasional wine cooler or dacquiri on New Year's Eve.

And of course, I was the official "beer fetcher" for my stepdad . . .somebody had to make sure they were cold enough.:p

[ThePhoneGoddess]

This may or may not be factual, but I truly believe that Wisconsin is the highest underage drinking state.

http://www.drugabusestatistics.samhsa.gov/2k6/stateUnderageDrinking/underageDrinking.htm

Wisconsin is high, but not the highest. Actually the states with the highest rates are the ones where the poorest and most ignored people in the nation are---states with lots of Native Americans. North and South Dakota top the list, and Wisconsin is not far behind.

[crazylegs]

Crazylegs, I love reading your posts.

Aww, thanks blas! :D (allows head to swell)

As has been mentioned by several posters here one of the main factors in the Alcohol problem is the demonisation of drink, unlike in France where children are given watered down wine to drink with their meals and it is not a taboo, they don't have the binge culture, unlike here.

One thing I have noticed more and more during seizures is that when asked where kids get their booze from, most say their parents have given it to them. If it was A can of beer/cider/whatever I could see the point, introdce them to alcohol etc, but when it is an entire rucksack full, thats just asking for trouble.

And drink/drive, don't even get me started on that one, had a FATAC* on patch recently where the driver was drunk, passenger was killed after being thrown from the rolling car.

One thing which we have got right though, if your caught Drink Driving, you loose your liscence upon conviction (even if you refuse to give a breath test, or blood sample your treated the same as blowing a positive test etc), if you are then caught driving, your car gets seized and crushed/sold for driving with ni insurance :D

*FATal ACcident

[blas]

When someone gets a DUI here, even a first DUI, they have their license suspended for 6 months or something like that. But it never seems to phase them. They are right back on the road drunk as a skunk days later. Especially people like my friend who have several of them under their belt. Yes, each time the punishment gets a little worse, but not enough to keep them from not driving anymore.

[tacohuman]

But I WILL oneday find a place that makes flaming Dr. Peppers. Cause I really really wanna try it, and I hear they taste like the real deal. Plus they on fire.

most bars (at least the ones around here), won't do them flaming anymore because of fire codes. that just takes all the fun out.

they're not hard to do yourself, though: half a pint of beer (most bars use the cheap light stuff, but i prefer it with a darker beer. shiner bock makes the best i've found), one shot glass 3/4 full of amaretto. top shot off with bacardi 151, light on fire. let burn for a few seconds, drop shot into beer, chug. yum.

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

Crazylegs, I love reading your posts. It's good to have a law enforcement POV around here......

This may or may not be factual, but I truly believe that Wisconsin is the highest underage drinking state. The amount of kids who have fake IDs or drink underage is alarming.

I wouldn't doubt it. I was one of those kids who drank underage myself.

I didn't get horribly wasted though. Saw enough of that out of my friends to know I didn't want to do that to myself.

[crazylegs]

I didn't get horribly wasted though. Saw enough of that out of my friends to know I didn't want to do that to myself.


We have a girl who 'socialises' on another patch, but *every* saturday gets so drunk she has to be hospitalised. What do her friends do to stop her, nothing.