Anyone ever notice this about Rudolf?

[RecoveringKinkoid]

So, we're watching Rankin and Bass's Rudolf the Rednose Reindeer, the old Christmas classic from the 60s, over and over and over because my two year old really digs it.

I myself loved this movie as a child. It's one of my favorites, mostly because it has a big scary snow monster in it that scared the crap out of me when I was little.

However, as an adult, I've noticed something I didn't really notice before.

With the exception of Rudolf and a small handful of characters, everyone (up to and including Santa himself) is a complete and total wad.

What's up with that? :headscratch:

[Knightmare]

Em and I watched Rudolf last Thursday, and I noticed it too.

Em was entranced. I, on the other hand, was thinking "Why is Santa being such a douche to Rudolf?"

Then I thought "Why is Comet being such a douche to Rudolf?"

When it was over, my thoughts were "Golly gosh, everyone in this show was such a douche to Rudolf, except for Hermie and Yukon. If I were Rudolf, I'd probably give a few well-placed hoof shots."

But Em loved it, so I didn't say anything to ruin it for her.

[TNT]

If I was Rudolph, I'd have told them all to "bite me," on Christmas. Or at least held out for a better deal.

[Ree]

It's based on the song, and in the song, everyone was nasty to Rudolph, but they all have a change of heart at the end.

I think that's why they came across so nasty in the show. It was so that the change of heart could be so total and dramatic once they realized that people should not judge based solely on appearance.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Naw, man. They didn't have a change of heart once they had an epiphany on how to treat people who are different.

Naw, they were boned and needed a favor. I'd have been all like, "So, Santa. You need a favor now, eh? I want to re negotiate my contract." :devil:

Comet. What can I say? Kid gets born and 15 seconds later, his old man is trying to hide his kid's birth defect with a hoof full of mud. Typical jock. :lol:

And another thing...That Boss Elf...geez, is he a sucky boss or what? "You hate your job and want to quit? Get back to work or your FIRED!" :wtf: All that candy they must have been eating up there, you'd a thought they'd LOVE to have a dentist living in the elf barracks!

[DesignFox]

Clarice was always nice to Rudolph. :)

I love that movie... :D

[Seshat]

'All of the other reindeer used to laugh and call him names. They never let poor Rudolph join in any reindeer games.'

I hated the song. Still do. The kids at school wouldn't let poor Seshat join in any reindeer games either. And I could see the surface 'niceness' of 'hey, we need you this foggy Christmas eve so we'll be nice to you tonight', even then.

[Kara]

Kid gets born and 15 seconds later, his old man is trying to hide his kid's birth defect with a hoof full of mud.


The ground was frozen solid. That wasn't mud.

[MadMike]

Reminds me of two cartoons I saw. The one was Far Side, the other one... I can't remember.

The Far Side one had a reindeer coming home from work, wearing a suit and tie, only to find Rudolph hiding in the shadows, sporting his trademark glowing red nose and a psychotic grin, and pointing a gun at him. The caption says, "Hello, Prancer! Remember me? You never let me join in any reindeer games!"

The other one had Rudolph sitting in a chair reading a paper, with several reindeer heads mounted on the wall. The caption on that one said, "All the other reindeer used to laugh and call him names."

[gunsage]

This thread reminded me of this... An oldie, but a goodie. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=icjh6wGUUfE) :p

[Lace Neil Singer]

Heather Chandler: Transfer to Washington. Transfer to Jefferson. No one at Westerberg is going to let you play their reindeer games.

[Ree]

The ground was frozen solid. That wasn't mud.:eek::eek:
That never occurred to me before. Too funny. :lol:

[BookstoreEscapee]

:eek::eek:
That never occurred to me before. Too funny. :lol:

Me neither...:eek:

[Ree]

Oh yeah, and I meant to add, Rudolph's mother was also good to him, despite the fact that she didn't stand up for him and tell people to stuff it, because she was proud of her son and loved him.

It's funny...that show was created in a different era, when men ruled the roost. It would be very interesting to know how that show would have turned out had it been made in today's society.

[DarthRetard]

It'd have been on Lifetime, with Comet as an abusive drunk, coming home late from cheating on his wife at numerous casinos. Rudolph would be a confused bi emo nerd, taking everything out on his parents, and eventually going to therapy for suicidal tendencies.

They'd blame the schools. Comet would leave his wife, Rudolph would grow up without a father, hating and resenting him every day.

Then comes the dramatic reunion after Rudolph is convinced to save christmas, and his father comes back to him. Rudolph breaks down, pulls a Johnny Cash, and punches him right in the kisser.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Oh, holy CRAP, you guys!

Contained in the very same cheerily boxed set of DVD that contains our Rudolf DVD, we have the delightful creation called "Nestor the Long Eared Donkey."

Now, let me preface this with tell you we'd just gotten finished with Rudolf's Shiny New Year (I think) wherein the baby new year in pursued and mocked unmercilessly over his large ears. Hmmm....

So, anyways, I sat while Nestor was playing and in the five minutes or less I sat there with the kid on my lap, I saw Nestor mocked for his long ears (WTF is up with all this ridiculing unfortunate birth defects in every single thing??? Talk about your disturbing patterns. ), Roman soldiers busting down the doors, young donkeys taken from their mothers and hauled off, a guy getting smacked in the chops by soldiers, guy beating the shit out of the poor little donkey and screaming at him that he's worthless, and throwing him out in the snow. While he's doing this, he's sitting his ass on his half squashed dog. I figure he probably stomped a few roaches to death on his way to toss poor Nestor out into the snowstorm.

I'm like, "J (husband), what on EARTH did you put on for our kid???" and just then, Nestor's mom bites it and Nestor is all sad.

At that point, I burst out laughing. I mean, I felt like I should start looking for the Punked crew.

All I can say at this point is :jawdrop: No wonder they never air this stuff anymore. And you're right, it would be interesting if they had been made now.Of course, now, they'd be so sucked dry of anything remotely interesting that it would be more entertaining to watch paint dry. :rolleyes:

[Seshat]

Take a good long look at Tom and Jerry sometime. Or Sylvester and Tweety.

[CaroPhoenix]

Nestor is going to be played on the ABC Family channel on Wednesday night on my local tv. I'm letting Kelly watch it. And all the other Christmas-themed shows too. :p

Yeah, they were all made at a different time in societal norms, but they're still classics to a point. And I do enjoy them. A couple of years ago, they re-made "The year without a Santa Claus" and I still like the original.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Take a good long look at Tom and Jerry sometime. Or Sylvester and Tweety.

Nope, the most violent made for kids movie EVER is Watership Down. XD Killing, blood, rabbits fighting and finally, a huge dog tearing rabbits to shreds. Perfect family entertainment. :angel:

[MystyGlyttyr]

Nope, the most violent made for kids movie EVER is Watership Down. XD Killing, blood, rabbits fighting and finally, a huge dog tearing rabbits to shreds. Perfect family entertainment. :angel:

...

WANT.

My favorite is the Robot Chicken spoof of Charlie Brown's Halloween special, though. I was laughing my ass off the whole time.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Hey, I'm not one of these PC crazed "oh, we must pave the world with goose down for our precious innocent children" kinda people. The reason we are watching all this stuff is because I collect it and own pretty much all of 'em. :o

Watching as a parent, though, I've noticed some crazy stuff I hadn't noticed before is all. She still watches it.

I do draw the line at Tom and Jerry, though. I thought that show was appalling even as a kid.

I don't think Watership Down was made for children. It's based on a book that I am pretty sure is supposed to be political commentary. And yeah, it's hideously violent. A friend's kid who had gotten to see it due to, I guess, his parent's not knowing exactly what they were getting into, referred to it enthusiastically as "Bunny Rats Fight!" (he called rabbits "Bunny rats.")

[Lace Neil Singer]

Check out the movie; it's graded U. O_o At least, my copy is anyway.

[Seshat]

Plenty of things rated G (Australian rating - G for General) are not made for children. And the book was definitely not intended for children.

[Jester]

My favorite Australian movie: Maslin Beach. Damn shame Bonnie-Jaye Lawrence never did any other work. She was simply one of the most gorgeous women I have ever seen.

[Amethyst Hunter]

I do draw the line at Tom and Jerry, though. I thought that show was appalling even as a kid.


I loved Tom & Jerry. Free guesses as to who I always rooted for, and the first two don't count. :devil:



...Jerry was an evil little bastard, he was. Tom should've brought in Lion-o from Thundercats to fry his ass. :lol:

What? That damned sword could do ANYthing!!

[Lace Neil Singer]

Plenty of things rated G (Australian rating - G for General) are not made for children. And the book was definitely not intended for children.

I know the book wasn't. You're preaching to the choir. But the cartoon was a kid's movie, not an adult's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watership_Down_(film)

Then again, it was released in 1978; the series, released a considerable time after, softened down the violence. XD Which was why I thought it no way near as good. :lol: Interestingly, I always thought the movie should have had at least a PG tag; seeing as it has the words "Piss off!" in it. O_o

[DGoddessChardonnay]

It'd have been on Lifetime, with Comet as an abusive drunk, coming home late from cheating on his wife at numerous casinos. Rudolph would be a confused bi emo nerd, taking everything out on his parents, and eventually going to therapy for suicidal tendencies.

They'd blame the schools. Comet would leave his wife, Rudolph would grow up without a father, hating and resenting him every day.

Then comes the dramatic reunion after Rudolph is convinced to save christmas, and his father comes back to him. Rudolph breaks down, pulls a Johnny Cash, and punches him right in the kisser.

Anyone recall a MadTV spoof from several years ago called "Raging Rudolph?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvWVzjBfrn0

Now this is da bomb:lol:

[DesignFox]

I never liked Tom and Jerry growing up...but give me a good Bugs Bunny or Looney tunes short anyday. I was disappointed when I noticed most of the cartoons pulled from television.

And I don't think kids read into shows nearly as much as we do as adults. So, I don't understand this "goosedown" philosophy, either. I watched Rudolf and all those great classics...watched all the Warner Bros cartoons...original Disney... I think I turned out O.K.

And yes...Watership Down was rather violent... can't see showing that to the young kiddos. I was surprised at the blood and language. :lol: