A Letter To My Uterus... (long, funny, may upset some)

[NotSoInnocent]

Soooo...

As of 7am Saturday morning, I will be one entire week... LATE!

See, I'm hoping it's just stress. I'd even be cool with "hormonal changes due to aging" being the culprit. (Hell, at this point I'd be thrilled with early menopause. Though, at 27, it's not likely.) ANYTHING but the dreaded "P" word.

After all... I can't possibly be, right? Right? I'm fixed! There's no way the "P" word could happen... Right?

...

Right?

...

*hears the crickets chirping in the background*

...

Oh COME ON! A little reassurance couldn't hurt...

I'd better not be pregnant... I'll hurt someone...
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A Letter To My Uterus...

Dear Uterus,

I've had it. Our relationship is over.

Through the years we've had our ups and downs (Hell, I didn't even notice that you were there for the first 13 years of my life.) but this is the last straw.

When I first noticed you I was slightly disgusted. After all, bleeding from ANY orifice for a solid week every month shouldn't be considered "normal"... but I persevered for many years.

I began a regimen of something called "The Pill", and only performed coitus when both "condoms" and "spermicidal foam" were employed. Then you appeared to have a "hic-up" in your mysterious workings and quit emitting noxious, chemical and blood laden detritus. That was my first clue that you were conspiring against me.

After 8 months of dealing with a uterine parasite that medical professionals call "pregnancy", you subjected me to 76 hours of intense agony called "labor". The results of that "labor" were dubiously pleasant at best and put a serious crimp in my lifestyle. (Don't get me wrong, I cherish this product of yours. After 8 years, she's sort of grown on me. I even named her and care for her.)

My second clue to your conspiracy came just 2.25 years after the results of your first "hic-up". Again, you refrained from emitting that detritus... (I had begun to look forward to my monthly "flow", as it confirmed that you were functioning "normally" and was proof that my regimen was working. You're so damned sneaky...)

I was unhappy with our relationship, at that point, and wanted to find some way to keep any other uterine parasites from hatching within your depths. Sadly that was not to be, as medical professionals believed me to be too young to make such a life altering decision.

Another 2 years passed with our relationship tottering on the brink of failure (although I kept hoping that things would get better) and you BETRAYED me AGAIN! I was left with yet another parasite to deal with and seriously considered doing physical harm to you. But, again, medical professionals stepped in to tell me that I was too young to be capable of making such a decision. Though I was told that I only needed to think about it for a year and that, should I still feel the same way about our relationship, I could indeed terminate your parasitic enabling abilities.

Before I could finish that mandatory year, however, you did it AGAIN!

Oh I was so angry with you, Uterus. That was the final blow to our relationship.

After the extrication of the fourth parasite I informed the medical professionals that I wanted you "fixed" for good. Finally they agreed that we just weren't working out. I went in to surgery and came out with certain portions of you removed to handicap your abilities.

But you weren't done yet, were you Uterus... You had one more dirty trick up your sleeve that you hid from me for nearly 8 months.

You stole resources from other parts of my anatomy to REPAIR YOURSELF without informing me... and now you have allowed ANOTHER PARASITE to attach itself to your inner lining.

How could you, Uterus? How could you be so cruel?

This is, in fact, the LAST STRAW! I am done with you, Uterus, and you will be completely REMOVED when this parasite is extracted.

Good riddance to you, Uterus... This means WAR!

Sincerely,

Your Furious Host Body

[tropicsgoddess]

Get a "P" test. I've had a few scares that turned out to be just from stress.

[iradney]

I agree, get a test. I've had one or two scares meself, where I've been 2 weeks late, but not pregnant. It sometimes happens when you've had alot of stress (which you have had with the move and all!), so don't panic yet *squishies*

[Alfie]

I don't know what it is that I can say to make you feel better, but I just hope that it is hormonal changes etc. Thinking of you.

[Slytovhand]

Could you be..? well - yes. (presuming the possibility)

Other possibilities...? well - lots.

Stress, diet, changing weather patterns, etc... the body likes to do lots of 'strange' things all the time. Most of the time, we just ignore them.

One week? That's not really a lot. I've heard of women going months (and even years) without a period - and not just because of chemicals in the body. And with no other 'apparent' symptoms or problems - it's just the way they are.

So - I'd say chill out - but find out.

(and you can always hurt someone just for good measure :P)

Slyt

[crazylegs]

"P" Tests are very sensitive these days and will tell you with around 99% (closer to 100% actually) accuracy, but I would leave it for another week or so, as its been said a lot of things can make your pattern irregular.

Hang on in there chick.

[Ree]

You say you're "fixed"?
http://www.customerssuck.com/board/showthread.php?t=17043
What type of procedure did you have done?

Were there any warnings about failure rate with it?

[AnqeiicDemise]

I'm right there with you.

The only thing I *hate* about having a healthy sex life is the off chance that my pill won't work or the condom will break.

I just had the "P" scare myself. I didn't have cash to get my BC and condoms aren't always reliable. Next thing I know, I'm two weeks late, with back pain and nausea.

After a bright blue NEGATORY I could breathe in peace and realize....its amazing thing what stress can do to your body.

Take a "P" test. You don't need that extra stress wrecking havoc on you.

[blas]

Hang in there, honey!

One of the great mysteries, and should I say, miseries, of being a woman are our periods. And wouldn't you know, even when you're in your 20s and 30s, you can still have as silly of periods as you did when you were a teenager. Stress can totally wreak havoc on your cycle, sometimes totally skipping it altogether. You moved recently, right? If you had some stress or issues at that time, that could definetly have thrown things out of whack.

You have a tubal ligation, right? I think the failure rate on those are pretty low.

What I would do is buy a pregnancy test that comes with two or three tests. Take one right away. Take another the next day or a few days later. When I've had pregnancy scares, I've always taken multiple tests.

And also remember, believing in something strong enough sometimes makes it seem real. You are most likely not pregnant, however, if you worry you are, you can make yourself ill, things can happen with your body to convince you that you are.

[Misanthropical]

I was late with a period once and the doctors insisted it was stress, since the pregnancy tests were all negative. That "stress" is now a 15 year old son. :p

I had a tubal ligation after the little guy and only had one scare, but that was just the side effects of the injections I get for my back.

A tubal ligation is 99% protection against pregnancy or so I was told by my doctor when I had it done.

I wouldn't worry if I was you.

[NotSoInnocent]

I had a tubal ligation (cut and cauterized) and I know they're 99% effective... BUT...

Keep in mind that each of my children (with the exception of the youngest) are statistical anomalies. BC+condom+spermicidal foam for my oldest. BC+condom for the next. BC for the third.:eek:

I'm never late by more than 6 hours (unless I'm pregnant) and I've been that regular since my very first period.

While the move could be causing stress.... I've had more stress and still been regular. (Try finding out that your baby sister has a brain tumor, your brother is being accused of murder, your mother's cancer is back AND you're fleeing an abusive relationship... all within two days of each other... within a week of your period. My period was 6 hours late that month.)

I can't afford to get a test done until the 1st... but if I haven't started by then... it WILL come back positive.:(

I can't afford to have another kiddo... *sighs*

[MadMike]

Hopefully it's just stress, or some other weirdness that is harmless and not the "P" word.

My wife and I had a scare last year, where she skipped an entire month. Still don't know how or why that happened, but I wasn't taking any chances after that. I went and "chopped down the family tree", as I like to say.

[monolayth]

I have skipped three this last year. All stress related. you will be fine.

[MystyGlyttyr]

I've had one period since October, and as I've said before, if I'm pregnant, it's because Kusanagi knows how to achieve that through IM. Never hurts to test, though.

Randomly, I recently stopped drinking soda and within a couple weeks, had the first period. Factor-iffic.

[Rapscallion]

Note to self, continue drinking soda.

Rapscallion

[crazylegs]

Note to self, continue drinking soda.

Raps, there's some witty retort there but I'm damned if I can find it right now! :roll:

[DGoddessChardonnay]

I've run a bit late before myself on occasion, but that's usually due to February being a shorter month overall.

But then, I'm getting older too so I guess it's to be expected.

Try not to worry . . . . hormones can act quite weird at times.:)

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

So...does this mean you're pregnant again?

[NotSoInnocent]

:( yeah. According to the stick I peed on a bit ago...

[tropicsgoddess]

Did you do multiple tests to double check? Maybe you might have a false positive. Not all tests are as accurate as they claim to be but there's other reasons for false positive results too. Just in case the pee tests give the same result, I would go to the doctor and have them do a blood pregnancy test to double check. I'm no expert, but I did work at a women's clinic (as a receptionist) back in the day...learned quite a bit from that.

[Gravekeeper]

Oddly, this whole thread answered a lingering question about a caller I had this week and now I may have to revise my commentary... -.-

( Of course, you aren't up to 7 yet and probably don't have them all crammed into an apartment. )

[marasbaras]

OK, gang, learn from NSI ... next time some asswhacker tells you "you're too young to...." ... tell them to do their job.

I would think that after the second child that NSI was certainly of sufficient life experience to make decisions for herself.

[Ree]

I asked, but you didn't really answer, were you informed about a possible failure rate, and were you also told about precautions to take for the first few months?

You just said you knew that your procedure was 99% effective, but you never really said whether the doctors discussed that fact with you, or it was just something you knew.

Now, I realize your first children were conceived even with birth control methods, but surely, those methods plus a cutting and burning of the fallopian tubes would have been pretty effective?

I still think you should see a doctor, because, even if you got a positive on the test, it could be a false positive, or there is a very high risk of ectopic pregnancy.

[MiloMorai]

Yup the next doctor that tells my fiance that she's too young for any type of medical procedure is gonna get hurt on a ball joint. back surgery...too young. parasite prevention....too young. can't remember what else atm but there were others.

[NotSoInnocent]

I asked but you didn't really answer, were you informed about a possible failure rate, and were you also told about precautions to take for the first few months?

You just said you knew that your procedure was 99% effective, but you never really said whether the doctors discussed that fact with you, or it was just something you knew.
It was in the paperwork that I signed for "voluntary sterilization".... But I've also had family who've had children despite tubal ligation... and I know the risk for ectopic pregnancy is high.

You'd think that it would be effective, but it obviously isn't 100%. And my family is uber fertile. (My baby sister is pregnant... despite chemo, radiation therapy AND stem cell experimentation for her brain cancer. Yeah. Uber fertile are we.) Heck, my mom was getting pregnant until they removed her uterus because of cancer.

I'm hoping for a false positive... but I'm preparing for otherwise.

[Ree]

So, I'm assuming, then, that you weren't using any other forms of birth control, since you had the ligation?

Did they inform you as to how long you needed to continue with other methods of birth control in tandem with the ligation?

I'm just wondering, if you weren't using any other methods of birth control, and you weren't properly informed of the potential for pregnancy, perhaps you are looking at medical negligence and malpractice?

Now, if you were using other methods of birth control as a precautionary measure, and it happened anyway, then there's not a lot you can do.

You sound like you already knew the risk anyway, given your family's history, so perhaps it wouldn't hold up in a court. :shrug:

[Seshat]

Okay. Clearly, abortion is not something you chose the last four times, so presumably you wouldn't choose it this time.

How about adoption?

Infertility, despite science's best efforts, is still common. There are people out there who are (so I'm told) desperately aching to have and raise a child. You may have a child you don't want. Seems logical enough to me.

[AnqeiicDemise]

So...

Shall we point the desperately needy to come thy way and worship you in various ways in hopes that your Fertile Juice (eww) rubs off on them?

/tease

Then again, you can also blame it on the husband.

He's got to have some Super Soldiers too. :devil:

[NotSoInnocent]

I'm just wondering, if you weren't using any other methods of birth control, and you weren't properly informed of the potential for pregnancy, perhaps you are looking at medical negligence and malpractice?

Now, if you were using other methods of birth control as a precautionary measure, and it happened anyway, then there's not a lot you can do.

Condoms and the Pill were and are still being used.

No, that information wasn't given... but since I -do- know the percentages and whatnot (and since I have knowledge how it can happen anyways) I'm not expecting to head to court over it.
Okay. Clearly, abortion is not something you chose the last four times, so presumably you wouldn't choose it this time.

How about adoption?
Despite the wording of my original post... I really do love my children. While having another one wasn't exactly something that I was planning on dealing with any time soon, I will cherish this one (or more) just as much as my other ones.

I have no illusions that it will be easy, but I'll deal with it the best I can.

Adoption isn't an option for me. *sheepish grin* I just love my kids too much to give any of them away. They are each special to me.
So...

Shall we point the desperately needy to come thy way and worship you in various ways in hopes that your Fertile Juice (eww) rubs off on them?

*snickers* They already do that. Had a couple that were trying IVF... and only had one egg. I sent 'em all the fertility mojo that I could. (They're having twins.)

As for the hubby... yeah. He's got irradiated bits. I figure the swimmers that survived are experts. Army Ranger Sperm! :roll::roll:

[Boozy]

Condoms and the Pill were and are still being used.

Tubal ligation has a failure rate of about 1.4%. The vast majority of post-tubal ligation pregnancies occur after the five-year mark, as sometimes tubes repair themselves over time. The odds of pregnancy within the first year of having had the surgery is very very low.

Condoms, when used properly, have a failure rate of about 10%. Of course, when used in conjunction with the Pill, which has a failure rate of about 1%-5% depending on the type, the odds of pregnancy are once again very very low.

The odds of pregnancy with a recent tubal ligation, proper condom use, and taking the Pill regularly....the odds of pregnancy would be astronomically low.

I'm no mathematician...maybe someone at Nasa can crunch these numbers for us.

[Gawdzillers]

I think it's a Shaman curse.
Did you piss off any Jamaicans, by any chance?

In any case, I know it sounds inappropriate given your feelings about the pregnancy, but congratulations and good luck.

[blas]

I'd definetly go to a doctor and find out for sure before you get all twitterpaited over it. Sure, home pregnancy tests have a purpose, but they can always fail as well.

And remember that we are always here for you no matter what and you can rant as much as you need!

[BookstoreEscapee]

Well, I'm sorry and congratulations...here's hoping for a good outcome whatever it may be. :)

I'm not sure you'll find a doc who will perform a hysterectomy under your circumstances, though...it is major surgery usually reserved as a last resort for serious disease, etc., after all. I don't know what other options aside from tubal ligation there are (there's a procedure called [I think] Essure that's a little different but basically the same idea), but maybe your hubby should go in for a snip-snip as well...cut those soldiers off at the pass for good measure...

[FuzzyKitten99]

The only thing I can think of is that the pill stops your ovulation by creating the hormone that tells your body that is similar to the one that is created when you are pregnant. Could this hormone from the pill cause a false positive? I wouldn't put my money on it, given your track record, but anything is possible.

[iradney]

Have you considered using an IUD? I hear they're VERY effective...

[thegiraffe]

IUDs can also make people very sick, Iradney. The old Autistic teacher at the school I work at actually had to leave her job because of how sick it was making her. Completely removing the uterus should work...hard to reproduce without anything to hold the baby.

[Boozy]

No doctor will give a woman that young a hysterectomy for contraceptive purposes.

Hysterectomies cause women to go into early menopause, which makes their risk for certain cancers and diseases like osteoporosis skyrocket. A good friend of mine is going through early menopause right now, and its a pretty serious condition. She has a team of doctors trying to arrange her medications in such a way to give her a normal life.

[iradney]

IUDs can also make people very sick, Iradney. The old Autistic teacher at the school I work at actually had to leave her job because of how sick it was making her. Completely removing the uterus should work...hard to reproduce without anything to hold the baby.

Yikes, they do? Are these the old Copper IUDs?

[NotSoInnocent]

I think it's a Shaman curse.
Did you piss off any Jamaicans, by any chance?

In any case, I know it sounds inappropriate given your feelings about the pregnancy, but congratulations and good luck.

Not that I know of... but past family members may have at some point. Maybe it's a bloodline curse?

I'll take the luck, 'cause I can use it. As for the 'grats... I'm on the fence about the "happy happy" part of conception. I may change my mind later.

[PuckishOne]

Are these the old Copper IUDs?

In all likelihood, yes. There are 2 types of IUDs widely available these days and both are greatly improved over the first round that came out in the 1970s/early 80s. I've spent the past few months researching these and found that not only are they extremely safe now, they're also as effective as sterilization (yet, obviously, easily reversible). Pretty cool for gals like me who've taken enough birth control pills to choke a horse. ;)

Sorry for the hijack. :o

[Lace Neil Singer]

IUDs can also make people very sick, Iradney. The old Autistic teacher at the school I work at actually had to leave her job because of how sick it was making her. Completely removing the uterus should work...hard to reproduce without anything to hold the baby.
Tell Mpreg fanfic fans that. O_o

My theory is that this is a gypsy curse. And of course, you wouldn't know if you were pissing off a gypsy. XD

On an unrelated note, a stranger once said to me while I was smoking, "Did you know those lower your fertility?" They looked a bit put out by my reply; "Good!" :lol:

[thegiraffe]

Yikes, they do? Are these the old Copper IUDs?

In all likelihood, yes. There are 2 types of IUDs widely available these days and both are greatly improved over the first round that came out in the 1970s/early 80s. I've spent the past few months researching these and found that not only are they extremely safe now, they're also as effective as sterilization (yet, obviously, easily reversible). Pretty cool for gals like me who've taken enough birth control pills to choke a horse. ;)

Sorry for the hijack. :o


Probably not. She's not much older than I am - I'd say 30, 32 at the oldest. The IUD is relatively new, too...within the past 2-ish years (as she has a kid who is about 2). She may have other health problems too, but they can be dangerous.

And knowing how NSI tends to conceive, it may be best to just take the whole thing out haha.

[NotSoInnocent]

Probably not. She's not much older than I am - I'd say 30, 32 at the oldest. The IUD is relatively new, too...within the past 2-ish years (as she has a kid who is about 2). She may have other health problems too, but they can be dangerous.

And knowing how NSI tends to conceive, it may be best to just take the whole thing out haha.

*is hurt* Do I really sound as old as that? *puppy eyes* Meh... I'm 27. IUD's aren't right for me since the shape of my uterus makes the placement of one a little too difficult. (It also makes me prone to miscarriage... which has happened numerous times before.)

At this point... having more kids could be life-threatening to me. So the removal bit might be the only way to keep it from happening again.

[thegiraffe]

*is hurt* Do I really sound as old as that? *puppy eyes* Meh... I'm 27. IUD's aren't right for me since the shape of my uterus makes the placement of one a little too difficult. (It also makes me prone to miscarriage... which has happened numerous times before.)

No, no....I wasn't calling you old! I was saying that the one the old (ok, so I should probably say 'former') teacher has can't be one of the old copper ones because she wasn't even old enough to reproduce in the 70s/80s. She had it put in after her youngest was born, and her youngest is around 2 yrs old.

So do you have a definite yes or no on being pregnant? (i.e. another home test or a blood test?)

[Ree]

(It also makes me prone to miscarriage... which has happened numerous times before.)But, if you don't want the little parasites, what's the downside? (Not to sound vulgar and unfeeling, of course.)

[NotSoInnocent]

But, if you don't want the little parasites, what's the downside? (Not to sound vulgar and unfeeling, of course.)
Honestly... miscarriages cause damage to the mother. Each miscarriage causes progressive damage and can lead to cancer and other uterine problems.
So do you have a definite yes or no on being pregnant? (i.e. another home test or a blood test?)
It's a yes. Definitely a yes. Three successive tests (from different manufacturers) have shown positive, so I'm not doubting it at this point.

[Ree]

Honestly... miscarriages cause damage to the mother. Each miscarriage causes progressive damage and can lead to cancer and other uterine problems.

None of mine caused those particular health issues for me.
Of course, the secondary infertility for me after the fact was probably a blessing then.:shrug:

[blas]

I'd still go to the doctor....I've had a positive pregnancy test before. My Depo shot is similar to your BC in the fact that I don't ovulate and my body thinks it's pregnant. When I went to the doctor and got a negative result, the doctor said my shot was the most likely reason I got a positive result.

I'm just trying to give you hope, hunny.

[Seshat]

I have a modern IUD, and a tendancy to get sick at the drop of a hat. I can't say I'm fine, but the (copper-T) IUD hasn't affected me yet.

However, if NSI has a retrovert uterus, she can't have one.

Getting the hubby snipped as well sounds like the best idea, since even a non-radical hysterectomy is going to be difficult to get. Uterine ablation may be possible to get, however.

(A non-radical hysterectomy doesn't remove the ovaries, thus doesn't cause early menopause.)

[JuniorMintz]

Jesus. I had a miscarriage about a month and a half ago and frankly, I'd *love* to be "infected" again. Hopefully the next parasite will stick better... :rolleyes:

[Ree]

Jesus. I had a miscarriage about a month and a half ago
Awww...JAM :hug:
Life is so unfair and ironic sometimes.
Here we have someone who has apparently taken extraordinary measures to prevent a pregnancy, yet it appears to have happened anyway (five times, now), and then we have others who would give their right arm to be faced with this same situation.
It seems, in life, often those who can, don't want to, or don't appreciate the ability, and those who want to so desperately don't seem able to.


I have been doing a lot of thinking about this thread.

NotSoInnocent...you seem to be able to know the exact hour when your periods should start, as evidenced by the fact that you have said you were once 6 hours late. (That's pretty amazing. I wish I had been able to pinpoint to the exact hour.)
I am wondering then, if you can time it to the exact minute like that, and you appear to be more fertile than the average person, how come you don't know when you're ovulating? I always knew. My body gave me certain signals.
Even if your body doesn't tell you when you're ovulating, it's simple biology that ovulation takes place at a certain point, and a person is fertile for a certain amount of time. Sperm can also live for a certain amount of time, so, for those days prior to ovulating, during ovulation, and just after ovulation, a woman has a risk of becoming pregnant. If you really really really didn't want to be pregnant, and being pregnant is such a detriment to your health, then why don't you have that whole ovulating/fertile phase highlighted in red on a calendar and either abstain or be hyper-vigilant with birth control?

[PuckishOne]

However, if NSI has a retrovert uterus, she can't have one.
Not entirely true - it depends on the degree of retroversion and the skill of the gynaecologist in placing the device. (To avoid TMI, I'll just say that this has also come up in my recent research.) :)

[PCGameGuy]

OK, gang, learn from NSI ... next time some asswhacker tells you "you're too young to...." ... tell them to do their job.

I would think that after the second child that NSI was certainly of sufficient life experience to make decisions for herself.


I agree! I had my surgery when I was 23, and only because the military was very lenient. Even they didn't want me to, but two kids in four years told me that the missus and I were gonna have a baseball team league if we didn't do it.

Good luck NSI, and thank goodness they are finally willing to listen to what you want and not some damn book telling them what is 'right'.

[Chazzie]

Mine's always a week later than it's supposed to be. Of course, I don't have a reason to worry, but still, it's not all that weird. It's only when you're expecting it so earnestly that it seems 'weird'.

[NotSoInnocent]

Jesus. I had a miscarriage about a month and a half ago and frankly, I'd *love* to be "infected" again. Hopefully the next parasite will stick better... :rolleyes:
*hugs* I'm so sorry, JAM. I know how much it hurts, emotionally and physically, to have a miscarriage. Here's hoping I can send some of my fertility your way.
NotSoInnocent...you seem to be able to know the exact hour when your periods should start, as evidenced by the fact that you have said you were once 6 hours late. (That's pretty amazing. I wish I had been able to pinpoint to the exact hour.)
I am wondering then, if you can time it to the exact minute like that, and you appear to be more fertile than the average person, how come you don't know when you're ovulating? I always knew. My body gave me certain signals.
Even if your body doesn't tell you when you're ovulating, it's simple biology that ovulation takes place at a certain point, and a person is fertile for a certain amount of time. Sperm can also live for a certain amount of time, so, for those days prior to ovulating, during ovulation, and just after ovulation, a woman has a risk of becoming pregnant. If you really really really didn't want to be pregnant, and being pregnant is such a detriment to your health, then why don't you have that whole ovulating/fertile phase highlighted in red on a calendar and either abstain or be hyper-vigilant with birth control?
Unfortunately, while my period is regular as clockwork... my ovulation isn't. I avoid having sex with my SO during the week and a half that I -think- I'm fertile, but that only works on a minimal basis. Obviously my timing has been off a few times.

[Boozy]

Unfortunately, while my period is regular as clockwork... my ovulation isn't. I avoid having sex with my SO during the week and a half that I -think- I'm fertile, but that only works on a minimal basis.

This is crazy!

You not only had tubal ligation, but also used a condom, plus were on the Pill...and now we discover that you were also using the rhythm method....

Seriously, you need to donate your body to science.

[NotSoInnocent]

This is crazy!

You not only had tubal ligation, but also used a condom, plus were on the Pill...and now we discover that you were also using the rhythm method....

Seriously, you need to donate your body to science.

Yeah, I know. As has been pointed out to me by friends and family for years.... "Girl... You just ain't normal.":lol:

[PuckishOne]

Unfortunately, while my period is regular as clockwork... my ovulation isn't.

Sorry to sound like a big doofus here, but aren't the two connected? If your period is that regular, it implies that ovulation takes place pretty much at the same time each month, as well, since the "period" is the uterus ridding itself of the tissue it no longer needs since fertilization hasn't taken place.

According to this http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/3400/3421.asp?index=10132 there are 4 phases in the cycle, beginning with one's period, so for that to be turning up at the same time each month pretty much indicates that the other steps are also happening in a predictable fashion. Is there maybe some kind of condition that would throw this out of whack?

[Saydrah]

Well, NSI, as a believer that some things ARE pre-destined (yeah, it conflicts a bit with my atheism, but I like as many contradictions as possible in my life... after all, I'm also a homebody/recluse Leo ;) ) I say that you MUST have birthed a Messiah or someone destined to cure cancer or a future president among this batch. There is some obscure cosmic force that has made you so damned fertile even surgery can't cure it, so you better raise these heathens right... because they must be needed in the world for one reason or another!

Hehehe, since they're heathens, maybe this one will be the anti-Christ, another one the Messiah, and then a president and a cancer curing scientist to round things out?

[NotSoInnocent]

Well, NSI, as a believer that some things ARE pre-destined (yeah, it conflicts a bit with my atheism, but I like as many contradictions as possible in my life... after all, I'm also a homebody/recluse Leo ;) ) I say that you MUST have birthed a Messiah or someone destined to cure cancer or a future president among this batch. There is some obscure cosmic force that has made you so damned fertile even surgery can't cure it, so you better raise these heathens right... because they must be needed in the world for one reason or another!

Hehehe, since they're heathens, maybe this one will be the anti-Christ, another one the Messiah, and then a president and a cancer curing scientist to round things out?
heh... I'm pretty sure that my oldest, Angel, is going to be some sort of important person.

About a week after finding out I was pregnant I lost my apartment (dang thieving, non-paying roomies). Then I lost my job. So I was homeless and jobless at 18. i got one meal a day from the soup kitchen... if I could get there.

I lost 35 pounds in the first trimester and MISCARRIED in month 4. When I missed my next period (despite not having "relations" with anyone) I was a little confuzzled. Turned out that I had been pregnant with twins and had lost one... but the other was STILL THERE! An ultrasound proved that the remaining fetus was female... and HEALTHY! (Death=0, Angel=1)

After several trips to the hospital for pre-term labor, finally going into labor 4 weeks from the due date and 76 hours of labor... she was born... but she wasn't breathing. A pediatric ER doc came flying into the room to perform CPR and got her breathing. (Death=0, Angel=2)

Despite warnings from both myself and my mother, my newborn daughter was given a penicillin shot (I had group B strep... which can be passed on the the newborn during delivery). She went had a severe allergic reaction and her heart stopped beating. The same pediatric doc performed CPR on her again and her heart started back up. Meds were given to her to reduce the allergic reaction... and she was fine. (Death=0, Angel=3!)

So... my eldest beat death three times before she was able to nurse. She's gonna' be special. Four or more times if you want to count the whole Pill+Condom+Foam thing...

[Saydrah]

Hmm, maybe this'un is the other twin coming back? A pair of death-defying heathens?

Don't laugh, I have a friend who is 100% convinced that a baby she miscarried is the same sould that came back to be her daughter- said daughter is the "indigo child" type and says all sorts of very strange, should not be coming out of a 5 year old's mouth, type intuitive things. Very odd. I tend to be a skeptic, but this kid is definitely different. Her mama finally told her about the miscarriage a few months ago and she didn't even bat an eye at the idea she might be the same baby- accepted it instantly and said, "I knew I used to be waiting to be born..."

[BookstoreEscapee]

(That's pretty amazing. I wish I had been able to pinpoint to the exact hour.)


Damn, I'd be happy if I could pinpoint the week. I'm so all over the place (always have been) it's ridiculous...:rolleyes:

[BusBus]

NSI-I can not help but be absolutely amazed by how incredibly fertile you are! I don't think a hysterectomy is going to keep you from having another one :lol:

Plus, Angel's story is just so amazing that she must be destined for something special.

[blas]

I definetly believe NSI.....before I started showing signs of endometriosis and everything went to Hell, I used to be on a strict 28 day cycle. I knew the exact day my period would start (ok, not the exact hour, but I knew what day) and it always ended on day 6 and I had this feeling I was ovulating around days 12-14....just felt like something weird was going on.....

Ever tried the Depo shot, NSI? Went to doc yet?

[BookstoreEscapee]

Blas, I never know when it'll start but at least it's predictable when it does come. Always lasts the same amount of time. I can tell it's coming by the symptoms, but sometimes they start a few days before and sometimes it's more like a week or two before. So I only know when to be prepared... :rolleyes:

[Misanthropical]

Hmm, maybe this'un is the other twin coming back? A pair of death-defying heathens?

Don't laugh, I have a friend who is 100% convinced that a baby she miscarried is the same sould that came back to be her daughter- said daughter is the "indigo child" type and says all sorts of very strange, should not be coming out of a 5 year old's mouth, type intuitive things. Very odd. I tend to be a skeptic, but this kid is definitely different. Her mama finally told her about the miscarriage a few months ago and she didn't even bat an eye at the idea she might be the same baby- accepted it instantly and said, "I knew I used to be waiting to be born..."

I had a stillborn son a year and a half after my big guy was born, before my daughter was thought of. I had not told my son about his brother.

Anyway, when I was very huge with the little guy (who was a suprise), my big guy (who was still a little guy) came up to me, rubbed my tummy and said "He came back to you so you would not be so sad and miss him anymore" and walked off to go back to playing with his sister. I looked at him like :eek:

The big guy never said another word about it and looked at me like I was crazy when I asked him about it later.

My little guy use to talk about watching me before he was in my tummy and waiting for permission to be my son. I asked him who's permission he was waiting for, but he just smiled at me and said I already knew the answer to that. He told me how excited he was when he finally got permission.

The little guy doesn't talk about it anymore and hasn't since he was in Kindergarden.

We have not told our children about their brother who died. Maybe some day when the time is right we will.

[blas]

Mis, not to get too off topic or to freak you out, but it's been proven that children are often more sensitive to paranormal activity and have been known to talk to spirits, even if they think it's just an "imaginary friend". Perhaps your child that passed connected with your son and maybe he does know.

[Lil Bunny]

Ok Mis and NSI? Those stories are um, giving me goose bumps!! I'm all for believing that kids see and know more than we do. Innocence eh?

I just wanted to let you know that I did get a kick out of your post. I don't know where you're coming from but I can appreciate the frustration!

I've been um, well I'm not sure how to phrase it but kidless. One time there was a possibility but that ended very early. I for the most part don't want kids and even at 30 I cannot find someone to help me out with that. DF is 24 so yeah, no one's going to touch him. We keep track of my cycle online so we don't risk it but yes, we keep crossing our fingers. I can't take BC due to the DVT I had. Damned if you do.

The shot was amazing but no one told me about the bone density thing that goes with it. I was on it for 7 years, turns out it wasn't a good thing. *sigh* I miss not having my period, really.

[MystyGlyttyr]

I'm the third of three kids, and while my brother and sister were two years apart, I was five years later. My mother told me once, though, that she suspected that there was another baby between us, but that she lost it fairly early on, before she had even begun to suspect she might be pregnant. I've occasionally wondered if (due to certain dreams and the like I've had) if I hadn't made that attempt to get born, failed at it, and turned around and tried to be born again :lol:

Innocent, all I can say is holy crap. And I thought my cousin with the natural triplets after five months of trying to get pregnant was fertile.

[NotSoInnocent]

I didn't get home 'till around 3am.

I started cramping badly and spotting... Turned out the pregnancy was a partial tubal.... procedure to remove was painful, humiliating and has left me bleeding as if I'd just given birth.

I don't know whether to be sad about losing a child, or grateful that my body seemed to realize that now isn't the best time or me to be having baby #5....

Pain meds aren't helping me deal with the dual feelings....

[monolayth]

I want to offer a hug for both. I know the strange happy yet sad feeling.

[iradney]

That's sad news NSI. :(
*HUGS*

[crazylegs]

I have nothing I can say that I feel that can console you, you are in my thoughts.

[Lil Bunny]

Sending hugs your way!

[BookstoreEscapee]

Oh no! I know you have mixed feelings but I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you are feeling better soon. :hug:

[Rubyred]

*MOD EDIT to remove comment made before reading entire thread.

I apologize. I posted before I read the entire thread. I'm sorry. ::hugs::

[Ree]

Hope you recover quickly from the surgery. (I've never heard of a partial ectopic before. Must have something to do with the ligation?)
I recall my friend's ectopic, and she was sick as a dog from the anesthetic, sore on the outside from the laparotomy incision and on the inside from the removal of the tube and tissue. Her emotional state was pure hell. All she wanted to do was lie in a dark room with her head buried under the blankets for several days.
I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I'm sorry you are going through that.

[Der Cute]

Oh, NSI...

I"m sorry. I hope the pain recedes quickly and you can recover soon!

Hugs,
Cutenoob

[BusBus]

Aw geez, I am sorry to hear about that NSI. I can't imagine how difficult this is for you :(

[XCashier]

I'm sorry for your loss. :hug:

[Andara Bledin]

Coming in late. So sorry to hear that you had to go through that.

Just at the point where you're coming to terms with another pregnancy, you have to go through that. And now you have to deal with feeling guilty for being glad you won't be having another kid on top of the pain of the surgery.

You'll be in my prayers for a swift and as-painless-as-possible recovery.

.....

My mother tells a story from when I was very little (like 3 or 4). It seems that I used to hold conversations when nobody else was in the room. Whenever my mother would ask me who I was talking to, I would always tell her I was talking to God.

Just a note, but my family is pretty much non-religous. I don't think I ever went to a church before I was 6, and I know we never discussed religion seriously until I was in junior high school.

Note to self, continue drinking soda.

Um, Raps? I sincerely doubt you are in much danger of starting having a period from the cessation of soda drinking.

^-.-^

[wagegoth]

NSI, I'm so sorry. It sounds like you need to have something more, and your doctor needs to work that out with you.

Don't want to threadjack, but I got pregnant while on birth control, and after two problem pregnancies I had a tubal ligation. Afterward I asked my doctor what method he used. He told me he cut, cauterized and tied them. He wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way that anything would get through those tubes again.

Please take care. Obviously, we're here for you, hon.

[Ree]

And now you have to deal with feeling guilty for being glad you won't be having another kid on top of the pain of the surgery.I don't think there was surgery, though. I think they used another method to deal with the tubal pregnancy She was only at the ER until the early hours, and she said the procedure they used was "humiliating", so I'm not sure what the procedure would have been, but it doesn't sound like surgery to me. Of course, I haven't asked her for details. I don't think she's posted here since it happened, so she probably doesn't want to talk about it. She probably doesn't want to discuss it or be reminded of it.
He told me he cut, cauterized and tied them. He wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way that anything would get through those tubes again.But, that is what NSI said she had done, and somehow, despite that, and the use of 2 other methods of birth control along with the cutting and cauterizing, the little buggers still managed to get through, defying medical science.
I had a tubal ligation (cut and cauterized)
I'm just wondering, if you weren't using any other methods of birth control, and you weren't properly informed of the potential for pregnancy, perhaps you are looking at medical negligence and malpractice?

Now, if you were using other methods of birth control as a precautionary measure, and it happened anyway, then there's not a lot you can do.

Condoms and the Pill were and are still being used.Of course, she did say he only cut and cauterized. She doesn't mention that he tied them as well, so...

[Aethian]

Wow I wanted to post that I would be glad to have your luck...I was told I can expect to have no kids due to the turn in my uterus and the fact that I have a period only once in 90-100 days. Of course they told Mom she couldn't have any kids...and that is true I am a result of a miscarage, 3-month premie.

But upon of hearing of your miscarage I just want to cry and sniff and send tons of hugs and chocolate chip cookies with Silk.

So...feel better soon.

[PuckishOne]

Of course, she did say he only cut and cauterized. She doesn't mention that he tied them as well, so...
Sorry, but I have to be Miss MedGeek here for a moment and mention that "tying" the tubes actually a misnomer. They do cut and cauterize, but there's no "tying" involved (not least because it's pretty damned tough to do a good four-in-hand with a Fallopian tube). Also, these days it's done laparoscopically, which means that they make a wee incision, put a scope in, do the deed, then close up...still not as easy as a vasectomy, but getting closer. :)

[Ree]

They do cut and cauterize, but there's no "tying" involved (not least because it's pretty damned tough to do a good four-in-hand with a Fallopian tube). Isn't the "tying" part actually a clip of some type that is put around the looped tube, and then a piece is removed?

In pretty much all of the procedures I looked up, it involves severing and separating the tube in some manner. Most procedures are reversible, but that is not always successful. Many reversals only have about a 60% success rate.

[PuckishOne]

Isn't the "tying" part actually a clip of some type that is put around the looped tube, and then a piece is removed?
I know that's how it used be done, but with the laparoscopic procedure, I believe the clip is no longer used, and they just sever the tube and cauterize it without the need for a loop. At least, that's what my insurance company says it pays for. ;)

[wagegoth]

Mine was done right after my second C-section, while the huge incision was still open. And my doctor made a point of telling me he tied the tubes. He was in his sixties at the time, and had another doctor assisting (the C-section was scheduled), so he may have done everything he could to make sure I didn't get pregnant again.

I have heard of cut and cauterized tubal ligations and vasectomies healing and pregnancies resulting afterward. I have also heard of doctors cutting out large sections of the tubes, as an alternative, to be sure that the ends will not grow back.

[Ree]

I have heard of cut and cauterized tubal ligations and vasectomies healing and pregnancies resulting afterward. I have also heard of doctors cutting out large sections of the tubes, as an alternative, to be sure that the ends will not grow back.Oh, yes, it does happen, but I don't know what the risk is for it to happen within the first 6 months after the procedure. I still think NotSoInnocent should consult someone to find out why this happened, especially with both a condom and the pill being used.

It's a really bizarre thing, no matter how fertile she is, because I'm sure she didn't get pregnant every time she had sex prior to the procedure, so there really has to be something wrong here for it to have happened despite such major odds against it.

[iviles]

It seems like your a great mom (even though they may call you mean mean mommy)
By the way loved the letter felt that way more then a couple of times!:D Made me think of Rodney Carringtons Letter to my Penis.

[Ree]

We've had a few people not read all the way through, and offer premature congratulations, then had to go back and edit, or have it edited. The thread is pretty long, so this is probably going to keep happening. I think, in light of that, this one should be closed to spare anyone else embarrassment or pain.

The OP hasn't responded in the thread or given an update since the announcement of the ER visit, anyway, so it seems this thread may be too painful a reminder.

NSI, if that's the case, and you want the thread removed, just PM someone and we will happily remove it for you.