"I don't care if he's in a wheelchair, I was here first!"

[CrazedClerkthe2nd]

This happened to a friend of mine who works in a bank.

An older gentleman in a wheelchair came in one day to take care of some paperwork. Since he had some forms and other information to fill out and compile, he wheeled away from the counter and over to an area he could work quietly, then he could wheel back to the counter to complete the transaction when he was done.

After finishing, the man rolled back up to an open window. This bank allows exceptions for disabled customers so the teller was perfectly happy to help out this gentleman.

This didn't apparently sit too well with the next customer at the front of the regular line. He stormed up behind the guy in the wheelchair and stared down the teller.

T = teller
SC = douchebag
BM = Branch manager
OM: Old man

SC: Excuse me I was next in line!
T: I realize that sir, but this man was actually ahead of you, he's been here almost an hour now so I want to get him taken care of and then I'll be happy to assist you.
SC: I don't think so! I'm on a work break, I don't have time for this. You need to help me NOW. If this guy's been waiting an hour then he easily wait a little longer.
OM: Excuse me son, but I've been waiting long enough and I was ahead of you.
SC: Shut up Gramps, I got here first!
T: (upset but trying to keep cool) I understand you're in a hurry sir but this man WAS here first.
OM: Just like I told you.
SC: (to OM) I said shut up! (To Teller) He left the line, that means he has to go to the back!
T: Usually that would be true sir, but we do on occasion make exceptions for disabled customers.
SC: WHY??
T: We do it as a courtesy for them, besides this gentleman is also a retired veteran.
SC: Well if you ask me, we all deserve to be treated equal and...(at this point, he grabs the handles of the guys wheelchair, pulls it back, turns it and pushes it out of the way!)...I was here first!
OM: :eek:
T: :eek:
Other people in line: :eek:
SC: Now I need to make deposits for accounts X, Y and Z.
T: Sir that man is a retired war veteran and I refuse to serve you before him!
(sounds of agreement from the other customers)
SC: Well I'm not moving from this spot until I get this done, now are you going to help me or just stand there and look stupid?
T: I'm getting the manager.
SC: Thank goodness, maybe he can give me some decent service.
(in the meantime, OM has wheeled himself back up to the counter)
OM: Now listen here you son of a bitch...
(SC is about to respond but the manager walks up)
M: What seems to be going on here??
SC: Your teller here is rude and does not understand common courtesy! I want her reprimanded!
T: :eek:
OM: :eek:
Other customers: :eek:
BM: Sir if I understand correctly, you verbally berated her and that disabled gentleman and in fact pushed the poor man's wheelchair out of the way and demanded service.
OM: You're damned right he did and I wish I was younger because I'd knock this jerk's block off!
(other customers voice agreement)
SC: Ok forget about the teller, yeah I pushed the man out of the way, but I WAS HERE FIRST!
OM: I WAS YOU BASTARD! And everyone here knows it!
(other customers voice agreement)
SC: This is ridiculous. I'm already going to be late for work because of you people so will you just let me deposit my money please?!
BM: (with a big shit eating grin on his face) I'm sorry sir you'll have to wait, this other gentleman was here before you.
OM: And don't you forget that.
SC: This is UNFAIR. I'm reporting this bank to your corporate offices, the BBB AND the attorney general, I will NOT tolerate being treated this way! (storms out)

BM then proceeded to personally apologize to the man in the wheelchair, thank him for his service to our country and give him $25 cash on the spot for all the trouble. He also told him not to worry about SC coming back, as "I'll see to it that man will never bank here again."

[Skarredmind]

I believe that touching someone like that Pushing the chair, could be called assault. I'd have called the cops.

[freaktard]

Wow...just when you thought you'd heard everything.

[RayvenQ]

He's lucky he didn't have someone (or more than one) shove their fingers in his eyes, then up his nostrils lifting him up onto his tiptoes and then kneeing him in the family jewels.

[patiokitty]

I have absolutely no patience for anyone who treats a disabled person with disrespect. I tend to become a little unglued and my brain to mouth filter surprisingly goes missing in such instances. That guy should thank his lucky stars I wasn't there...I'd have yelled him stupid. Oh wait, he already is.

[tropicsgoddess]

That SC was lucky he didn't get the shit beat out of him by all those people for disrespecting that elderly man.

[Gothicsmurf]

:jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop:

Wow.

And I bet if that man wasn't in a wheelchair he WOULD have kicked the crap out of that SC!

Awesome job on the part of everyone involved for the handling of that situation... save for the SC.

And I bet if you would have decked the guy there'd be no witnesses. Not like I condone violence or anything.

[Peppergirl]

OMG- I wish I'd been there. There is a special place in hell for that guy.

[Format C]

Good for you, the old man, and the branch manager for backing you and the old man up! There are moments that assault and battery need to be legalized. :)

[RayvenQ]

OMG- I wish I'd been there. There is a special place in hell for that guy.

Yep, that same place is also reserved for child molesters and people who talk at the theatre :lol:

[d962831]

that guys extra sucky...and the old man certainly seemed spunky though!

[Evil Queen]

*face in hands*

This is why I carry a set of handcuffs with me EVERYWHERE. Citizens arrest for being violent. At least just until the cops show up. :D

[allniter]

The bigger problem here are the other customers in line who just stood back and didn't tell the man to fuck off and threaten to take their own business elsehwhere if douchebags like him are actually taken seriously and listened to. Even people not involved can threaten to hurt a business, it's just as effective.

Personally, if everyone is gonna be so wimpy that people are going to let others run ragged like this guy, society maybe deserves to have the problems it has. Just a thought.

[mattm04]

I would have been SO tempted to beat the crap of of the SC. If I was the bank manager I would have refused service to SC and told them to scram or police will become involved.

[PepperElf]

I believe that touching someone like that Pushing the chair, could be called assault. I'd have called the cops.

F*** YEAH!
You don't just man-handle anyone like that, not to mention a war vet
and he threatened him by saying "if he was younger i'd knock his block off"

let's see how late he is to work with handcuffs on his f***ing ungrateful hands.

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

This is why I carry a set of handcuffs with me EVERYWHERE.

Oh, so they're not for dragging me off to the Amish?

/runs away even faster

SC: This is UNFAIR. I'm reporting this bank to your corporate offices, the BBB AND the attorney general, I will NOT tolerate being treated this way! (storms out)


I'm not worried about the BBB and the AG, but if the corporate office decides to bend over backwards to retain this pompous, insensitive ass of a "customer" I will :cry:

[Aramika]

:jawdrop:

I am just in shock over this guy......... my faith in humanity has just been lowered a few more levels.

[marasbaras]

The bigger problem here are the other customers in line who just stood back and didn't tell the man to fuck off and threaten to take their own business elsehwhere if douchebags like him are actually taken seriously and listened to. Even people not involved can threaten to hurt a business, it's just as effective.

Didn't sound like they were given an opportunity to do so ... the manager stepped in and handled things appropriately. No need to go borderline SC when the management has a spine.

My bet: a certain SC's accounts are going to get closed.

[Canarr]

Yep, that same place is also reserved for child molesters and people who talk at the theatre :lol:

SHINY! :D

Kudos to OP and the manager for standing up against that a$$hole.

[Evil Queen]

Oh, so they're not for dragging me off to the Amish?

/runs away even faster
*snags him by his ear and holds him still* No, you're still mine. This is why I have more then one set.

[Sandman]

If corporate bends over for him, tell corporate you are going to the media on what they are doing. I'm pretty sure they will change their mind.

[crazylegs]

There is a special place for the villain of our story and I'm sure it involves coming off a motorbike in no protective clothing on a gravel track. To be honest I don't think I could have held my tongue if someone did that in front of me, moving someone while they are in a wheelchair because you think you are first sickens me.

[StarSong]

Wow... just wow. Every time I think we've hit bottom, a douchebag like this guy will throw me a shovel.

[chainedbarista]

not a shovel, more like a backhoe...:(

apparently, manners and respect were never a part of this one's upbringing; too common these days, it seems.

yay for the manager with a spine, yay x infinitieth power if douche's account is 'forcefully relocated.'

[Seshat]

Yay to the manager, the teller, and the uninvolved customers for giving the disabled guy the support he needed to have a fair go.

Yay to the bank for how they treat the disabled.

Boo to the idiot.

[Bramblerose]

SC: This is UNFAIR. I'm reporting this bank to your corporate offices, the BBB AND the attorney general, I will NOT tolerate being treated this way! (storms out)

Do we have some thing worse than Entitlement Whore? He just passed EW and left Doppler effect all over teh place.

Entitlement Pimp??:burnup:

must I admit to being the same specie as this sack of protoplasm? :ashamed:i

[protege]

As much as this site doesn't condone violence against customers...if someone said something like that to my grandmother (who sometimes uses a wheelchair)...I'd probably throw their ass out into traffic. I don't take kindly to people who upset her!

[ShetenshiSenshi]

The funny thing is, if he had just kept his mouth shut and let the teller take care of the gentleman first, he would have been in and out faster.

[ravenrose]

I'm the type of person who believes in equality. I don't care what kind of person they are, disabled or otherwise, if they've been there first, they get served first.

That being said, the man in line was an @$$.

Now, if the man in the wheelchair had just arrived, come through the door, then I would say the man would have been justifiable upset, to begin with (after that, he crossed the line). But as the OM was there already, he guy was being an @$$.

If the man in the wheelchair had just come in the door, and the only teller available was the one with the only wheelchair-accessible counter, and got upset because the man went to that teller, the guy is an @$$.

But no matter the situation, you do NOT move them yourself. That is so far crossing the line that you can't even see the line anymore; the line is a dot.

[derangedperson]

If I were one of the customers in line behind this twat monkey, I'd have punched him in the face and thrown him out of the bank myself. You do NOT do shit like that to a guy in a wheelchair.

[Rapscallion]

I know this is an emotive issue, but we don't stoop to violence here.

Rapscallion

[ebonyknight]

The funny thing is, if he had just kept his mouth shut and let the teller take care of the gentleman first, he would have been in and out faster.

That is a law of physics that a lot of people just don't get. The more you bitch and moan, the longer it's going to take.

Patience really is a virtue.

[Estil]

:jawdrop:

I am just in shock over this guy......... my faith in humanity has just been lowered a few more levels.

My faith in humanity has been raised several levels based on how the others responded. Give them some credit, will ya?

[PuckishOne]

Friendly mod reminder that we do not condone violence against SCs here. Whether it's deserved or not is irrelevant. Thanks. :)

[South Texan]

I'm the type of person who believes in equality. I don't care what kind of person they are, disabled or otherwise, if they've been there first, they get served first.
My thoughts exactly. From my experience, most people with disabilities do not want special treatment as it makes them feel unequal and causes attention to be brought to them. Unless the man in the wheelchair had a condition that made it impossible for him to wait in a line, then he should take his turn like everyone else. In this case, though, he had.

This man COULD have stayed at the teller window and filled out all the paperwork (like a typical SC would do) thereby monopolizing a teller and slowing down the line for everyone else. Instead, he allowed other people to go in front of him until he was ready to complete his transaction. A very polite thing for him to have done. When his paperwork was completed, he merely stopped allowing people to go in front of him and took his rightful place back at the teller window.

And yes, grabbing a person's wheelchair in the manner the SC did IS a criminal assault in my state as the wheelchair is seen as an extension of the person while it is in use. The SC is lucky the man did not press chrages.

[greensinestro]

Just when you think you had heard everything. You know, I was actually waiting to read about when the old man got up to knock SC's block off. That is just appalling that someone like that simply has no respect for those who are less fortunate. And, after grabbing the old man's wheelchair handles, then shoving him aside......I don't know, I think that would have been grounds for assault charges. It's hard to get involved in something like that though. It could always come back to haunt you.

[drunkenwildmage]

Ok..quick review..For those of you to know me, My Wife is in a Wheelchair, and as a result we have seen people at their worse.


Frankly (and sadly) the way the SC acted doesn't really surprise me. Nothing amazing us more, on how some of the population act around people with Wheelchairs.

My Wife has be run over by people walking, farted at (head is at butt level), had people reach over her, been blocked from her van because people park in those striped area next to the handicap spots, had someone pushed a shopping cart right in front of her, and walked off, so they didn't have to wait for someone to move, almost been sat on a number of times (Dude..didn't you see someone SITTING in that chair!! :confused:..), Been blocked from going into a number of stores, because some lazy ass idiot parked on the curb cut, or ramp just to name a few...

One of the major sins with me wife is to touch her chair. The only people that are allowed to are Family and Friends, and the occasional health care worker. Otherwise HANDS OFF. :punch:


Now..if he was to do that with my wife, He would be needing to pick himself up from the floor, because if I didn't slug him, I would've at least pulled him off the chair, and threw him to the ground or body check him. Anything to get him away from my wife.

The Bank teller and Manager, acted very professionally in this matter, and as a result, we would go out of the way just to bank there.

[greensinestro]

Ok..quick review..For those of you to know me, My Wife is in a Wheelchair, and as a result we have seen people at their worse.


Frankly (and sadly) the way the SC acted doesn't really surprise me. Nothing amazing us more, on how some of the population act around people with Wheelchairs.

My Wife has be run over by people walking, farted at (head is at butt level), had people reach over her, been blocked from her van because people park in those striped area next to the handicap spots, had someone pushed a shopping cart right in front of her, and walked off, so they didn't have to wait for someone to move, almost been sat on a number of times (Dude..didn't you see someone SITTING in that chair!! :confused:..), Been blocked from going into a number of stores, because some lazy ass idiot parked on the curb cut, or ramp just to name a few...

.

Oh, I've seen things like this. A while back, I ate at a Sonny's with my family, and this man was leaving with his wife in a wheelchair. The wife was literally slouched with her leg elevated, and it had a cast around it. It looked at if she had been in a car accident or something. Anyway, while this man was trying to get out with his wife, nobody around would help him with holding the door open. I saw this and immediately went over to help out, and he was grateful, telling me, "Oh, thanks. This is her first night out in nine months", to which I said "Well, congratulations, and I hope you're recovery continues nicely."

It's a damned shame when you have others who don't want to be bothered with helping out someone in need.

[chinashirtgirl]

The jerk in the OP needs to start banking on line if the only time he has is his lunch hour to go there. That's when everybody goes, there's gonna be a line-up. And he obvioulsy doesn't have the patience to wait without becomming a total ass. What a menace.

[LifeCarnie]

If I were one of the customers in line behind this twat monkey, I'd have punched him in the face and thrown him out of the bank myself. You do NOT do shit like that to a guy in a wheelchair.

I'm sensing a coward myself, you wouldn't even need to hit him. If anyone else had stepped out of the line and confronted this guy I think he would have caved, particularily if it was someone who could actually stand.

The bank staff poised no real threat to him, or at least he thought.

Personally he would have two strikes with me:

He abused a veteran and he abused a handicapped person.

Even if he wasn't handicapped, I'd be inclined to backup a fellow veteran who was getting shown no respect.

Plus, I don't care how old he was, those WWII were hardcore. I bet he could have cleaned the floor with that SC despite the age difference.

[Auto]

I'm the type of person who believes in equality. I don't care what kind of person they are, disabled or otherwise, if they've been there first, they get served first.

This is the first post that cuts to the core issue.

It's first come, first served. That one guy is in a wheelchair doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Or that he's a veteran.

The bank should have made it clear to the jerk that wheelchair dude is being served first because he was there first and is only now coming forward to complete his transaction. That's all that matters.

My dad's a 100% disabled veteran and I gave all the sympathy and respect in the world for those guys.

But if you think I'm going to let someone play the disabled vet card against me as a way to cut in line, think again.

The post office is pretty good with this problem. They tell customers to fill out paperwork off to the side while the clerk helps the next guy -- but that they can come right up the counter when they're finished and the clerk will complete their transaction.

And the clerk is pretty clear about saying that the person wo appears to be cutting in line did actually wait his turn earlier.

That's what the bank needed to tell the jerk. Not muddy it up by making it sound as though wheelchair dude was beign allowed to cut in line. Because he's in a wheelchair. Or because he's a veteran.

[csever01]

I agree. Him being in a wheelchair or being a veteran is insignificant in this case. He was there first and should be served first. It is, however, pretty unfortunate that the SC felt like he could take the wheelchair and push it out of his way.

[drunkenwildmage]

I agree. Him being in a wheelchair or being a veteran is insignificant in this case. He was there first and should be served first. It is, however, pretty unfortunate that the SC felt like he could take the wheelchair and push it out of his way.



I agree with you with one small exception. In some places that we have been to (Typically events) with long lines. The problem is, the lines are routed in such a way that they go over steps, stairs, or are roped off in such a away that you can't physically get a chair through. The first solution that we do is to have me go through the line like a normal, and when we get to the point that my wife can join the line with me, she will get in line with me. Normally the people behind us are fine with this. On other cases, the staff will have us basically line jump and go to the front (In the twelve years we have been together, I think it's only happed twice) but like I said, that's only if we can't physically get the chair through the line. otherwise, we wait our turn.

[Becks]

:jawdrop:

Wow. I bet that guy went to work and told all his coworkers about what a badass he is and whatnot.

[Namrepus221]

if it were me I would've had him forcibly removed or the police called to forcibly remove him.

He touched the guys wheelchair and moved him, that's considered assault where I live.

[CrazedClerkthe2nd]

Hey folks, got an update on this one for you, thanks to my friend:

- After the SC left, the manager asked the old man if he wanted to press charges because if so, he'd gladly call the police, but the old man declined, saying he didn't need the aggravation.

- Also I doubt corporate will be doing much for this SC as the manager wrote a full account of the incident and sent it, along with the security camera recording of the incident, to his superior at corporate. This was pretty much immediately after it happened, before any complaint to corporate had even been received.

[Becks]

Thanks most kindly for the update.

[Gawdzillers]

I question the legitimacy of this story.
Entertaining read, though.

[purplecat41877]

If the customer was in such a hurry, he should do what I would do. Go to the ATM machine and make the deposits there.:p

[Eric the Grey]

if it were me I would've had him forcibly removed or the police called to forcibly remove him.

He touched the guys wheelchair and moved him, that's considered assault where I live.

Honestly, if I'd witnessed this, I would have been on the phone with the police to report it, and I'd have tried to keep incredi-ass there to face charges.

There is no excuse for that.



:cool: Eric the Grey