"I don't see any 'No Smoking' signs!"

[alphaboi]

We don't actually have any "No Smoking" signs up, but we're a supermarket.. The other day this guy was at the SCO while his wife was scanning he lit up a cigar! His wife was about ready to pay when I noticed (someone complained about the smell).

Me: Sir, you can't smoke in here.
SC: Why, I don't see any signs!
ME: This is a grocery store you can't smoke in here. It's store policy.
SC: Well I'm not putting this out! Do you know how much these cost!?
SCW: Lets just go (she'd finished bagging).
SC: Fine, I hate this place anyway.

[Slave to the Phone]

We don't actually have any "No Smoking" signs up, but we're a supermarket...

Me: Sir, you can't smoke in here.
SC: Why, I don't see any signs!


I'm a smoker. Don't like it and keep trying to quit but I keep going back to the nasty things.

People like that jerk make me look bad and I resent it. I'd like to apologize to on behalf of all of us considerate smokers. Most of us are not like that at all.

[DerangedHermit]

Isn't it against the law to smoke inside some public places in parts of the country?

[WonTon]

What a child.

[Slave to the Phone]

Isn't it against the law to smoke inside some public places in parts of the country?

Yes. In many places, its against the law to smoke outside by doors as well.

I disagree with these laws because they impact property owners. If I owned a business, it should be my decision to allow smoking or not. If I choose to allow smoking, non-smokers can choose to visit my establishment or not. If I choose to not allow smoking, smokers can go somewhere else if they want. Its my business and my customer base. If my bad decisions make my customers go elsewhere, its my fault. Its just not right for the government to make these decisions for me.

That being said...I never light up indoors unless I see ashtrays on the tables AND other people smoking. I don't stand just outside the door and smoke. I don't take that last puff while I'm walking in the door and then exhale when I'm inside. A little consideration goes a long way.

As a side note, even when I'm not smoking, I always ask for seating in the smoking section. I hate trying to enjoy a meal and conversation with brats running all over and screaming. Not so many of them in the smoking sections.

[Dawnchaser]

That being said...I never light up indoors unless I see ashtrays on the tables AND other people smoking. I don't stand just outside the door and smoke. I don't take that last puff while I'm walking in the door and then exhale when I'm inside. A little consideration goes a long way.


Exactly! Thank you for that...if more smokers behaved that way I wouldn't have to dread coming in and out of work every day.

[hauntedheadnc]

It's a simple matter of them being the center of the universe. They get to do what they want to do, when they want to do it and you be damned. That's the only explanation for, "Well, I'm going to light up this big cigar here in the grocery store, surrounded by other people who may or may not smoke, and who may in fact be deathly allergic to tobacco smoke. I paid good money for this cigar and by gum I want everyone to see me smoking it, and I do not, repeat not want them, in their resentment, to picture me performing the sex act that having this kind of thing in one's mouth suggests. If your food and clothing end up smelling like cigar, that's just too darn bad because I paid a lot of money for this. After we leave, I'm going to go light up another one at the methane gas power plant just because I'm entitled, so if your lights suddenly go out and you see a mushroom cloud on the horizon, you'd better remember that I paid good money for this cigar and that gives me the right to light up anywhere, anytime, anyhow, and beans to you, buster."

[Slave to the Phone]

Exactly! Thank you for that...if more smokers behaved that way I wouldn't have to dread coming in and out of work every day.

I used to smoke by the doors. Its really not a matter of rudeness, that is where the ashtrays are and most smokers are trained to smoke by ashtrays.

It took a non-smoker to quietly complain about walking through the smoke on her way to work to make me question my actions.

I wonder if your workplace could move the ashtrays away from the doors? Us smokers aren't the smartest people in the world (if we were smart, we wouldn't smoke, would we?), and usually just assume that ashtrays mean "smoke here".

[JuniorMintz]

Me: Sir, you can't smoke in here.
SC: Why, I don't see any signs!


Good News! There's no sign saying I can't take that lit cigar from you and shove it up your ass, either! :eyewaggle: :devil:

[Slave to the Phone]

Good News! There's no sign saying I can't take that lit cigar from you and shove it up your ass, either! :eyewaggle: :devil:

Where was the Rule #1 warning?!?!?

[Bella_Vixen]

Slightly off topic but...my ex always was and still is considerate in that because I don't smoke, he tries not to smoke around me, and if he NEEDS to fire one up, he'll ask, and open windows, etc.

[El Barto]

Good News! There's no sign saying I can't take that lit cigar from you and shove it up your ass, either! :eyewaggle: :devil: :roll: If only we couldnt get fired for saying things like that.

[chantal]

Yes. In many places, its against the law to smoke outside by doors as well.

I disagree with these laws because they impact property owners. If I owned a business, it should be my decision to allow smoking or not. If I choose to allow smoking, non-smokers can choose to visit my establishment or not. If I choose to not allow smoking, smokers can go somewhere else if they want. Its my business and my customer base. If my bad decisions make my customers go elsewhere, its my fault. Its just not right for the government to make these decisions for me.


I disagree because second hand smoke can cause serious health complications, thus making it a health care issure, thus making it a government issue.

Slightly more on topic, has this customer never been in a grocery store before? Um....duh there's no smoking in there. Just like there's no smoking in hospitals. Moron.

[MadMike]

In the supermarket where I worked, we had signs up everywhere that said, "Thank you for not smoking." One of my coworkers pointed that out to a customer who was smoking in the store, and the customer insisted that the signs didn't say he couldn't smoke, they were just asking him not to, and he didn't have to agree to that, and therefore, could smoke if he wanted.

I wonder if he's the jackass who's responsible for my "Something's Burning" story. (http://www.customerssuck.com/board/showthread.php?t=222)

[Slave to the Phone]

I disagree because second hand smoke can cause serious health complications, thus making it a health care issure, thus making it a government issue.

I fully agree that second hand smoke can cause serious health problems. I also agree that government supported facilities should be smoke free. What I disagree with is that Big Brother has the ability to tell a private business owner how s/he should run her business.

If you don't like smoke in a popular bar, you can just go down the street and drink in a non-smoking bar. Don't like smokers in a certain eating establishment? Eat somewhere else.

Life is sometimes hard and I understand that you don't want to breath my second-hand smoke. So, please stay out of establishments that allow smoking.

If enough people boycott an establishment due to smokers the owner(s) will make their establishment smoke free. Free markets are a good thing IMO.

I don't eat meat. I don't demand that everyone around me stops eating meat so that my dining experience is flawless. I just go to places that don't serve meat and possibly contaminate my food with blood.

Slightly more on topic, has this customer never been in a grocery store before? Um....duh there's no smoking in there. Just like there's no smoking in hospitals. Moron.

I totally agree with this. Its been at least 15 years since I've shopped in a grocery store that allows smoking. Moron needs to get with the times.

[bars.of.a.rhyme]

"SC: Well I'm not putting this out! Do you know how much these cost!?"


Ack. I hate lines like that, because you know that the subtext is "They cost more than you've made all day, peon. A subservient grunt like yourself could never understand the value of such a luxury item."

Hate.

[Crazyredhead]

That is when you get a bucket of water. You know the old saying, "where there is smoke there is fire", You were only keeping everyones saftey in mind.:devil:

[JuniorMintz]

Where was the Rule #1 warning?!?!?

Hey, who forgot to put the sign up! :doh: :D

[Rapscallion]

Heh - had a call the other day where it could have been so much longer.

"Brand *** baking powder. Does it have aluminium in it?"

"Um, it shouldn't have..."

"Can you check? I've got a customer insisting that they know it contains no aluminium."

"I can check the specifications, but it doesn't say anything on the lable about having aluminium in there."

"Can you check?"

*clickety click*

"Oh, it's been discontinued."

The call ended after a brief farewell. I looked over at my colleague. "That could have taken much longer," I said.

She asked what it was about and I explained. "Why could that have taken longer?" she asked.

"The labels also don't say they contain concrete."

Rapscallion

[FenigDurak]

I fully agree that second hand smoke can cause serious health problems. I also agree that government supported facilities should be smoke free. What I disagree with is that Big Brother has the ability to tell a private business owner how s/he should run her business.


I'm only posting this to be contrary, but Big Brother has been telling the private business owner how to run their business for years. "Pay your taxes. You have to pay your employees at least this much. You have to have insurance and contribute to the insurance of full time employees. Etc."

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the indoor smoking laws. I'm just being contrary for the sake of it as I've been on my best behavior for the last few weeks due to family events that demand it. ;)

[protege]

Good News! There's no sign saying I can't take that lit cigar from you and shove it up your ass, either! :eyewaggle: :devil:

As long as it goes in sideways, I don't think anyone would have a problem with that :D

[Lace Neil Singer]

As a side note, even when I'm not smoking, I always ask for seating in the smoking section. I hate trying to enjoy a meal and conversation with brats running all over and screaming. Not so many of them in the smoking sections.
Same here. In Wetherspoons pubs over here, the smoking sections are restricted as far as kids go, so I always go there whether I fancy a poison stick with my meal or not.

[ShockQueen]

Good News! There's no sign saying I can't take that lit cigar from you and shove it up your ass, either! :eyewaggle: :devil:

Agreed with above....just having that mental image while the cigar is lit just about had me breaking out the Windex...........again! When will I ever learn?:D

[SuperDan]

My store has a bank branch inside it. Friday morning there was a customer in line at the bank who decided he really needed to light up.

There was an elderly woman immediately in front of him in line using an oxygen tank.

I don't think she mentioned the obvious fire hazard, but she did say she was very sensitive to smoke.

The asshat told her, "Hold your breath."

I watched with great pleasure as my store manager and the bank's branch manager escorted him off the premises.

We have no-smoking signs at the entrance and a no-smoking announcement on our PA announcement loop.

[Spiffy McMoron]

SC: Well I'm not putting this out! Do you know how much these cost!?

*Sniff, sniff*

Judging by the quality of the wrapping, and by the faint monkey-poop aftertaste in the smoke, I'm going to guess $2.25, available from your local Mac's store. What? You paid $50 per cigar? Boy, to think we could have really marked up these groceries for you. :D

[Dawnchaser]

I wonder if your workplace could move the ashtrays away from the doors? Us smokers aren't the smartest people in the world (if we were smart, we wouldn't smoke, would we?), and usually just assume that ashtrays mean "smoke here".

It's strange that they haven't already, since it's not really a building that many customers at all come to, and there are a lot of rules in this city about how far from doors you're supposed to stand and whatnot.

I might have to badger HR and see what happens...there's sort of a smoker area out back, but for some reason not many people use it. They do send out occasional reminders to everyone that the company can get fined if people smoke too close to the doors and that the fines will be passed on to the offender...but so far that's not happened.

I kinda wish I liked to smoke...might be relaxing. But I tried it and I couldn't taste anything the next day so that was the end of that! :)

[HYHYBT]

I think they put the ashtrays at the door so that smokers can put their cigarettes out on their way in, because so many would just throw it on the ground if there weren't one there... but as you said, since it's there, that's where people will go to smoke. They do anyway, even when there's not an ashtray there....

Anyway, Dad used to have signs in the office. They didn't say "No smoking." They said "If you are smoking, we will assume you are on fire and act accordingly."

Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum (http://www.tvrail.com) has no smoking signs that say below, "unless you are a" followed by a silhouette of a steam locomotive.

[karma_gypsy]

Actually, I live in the state of Washington, and yes, it is a LAW that you CAN NOT smoke within 25 feet of any door. Some businesses have set up designated 'smoking areas' exactly 25 feet from the door (a bar has one, ironically), you can't smoke inside any public building. Oregon wants the same law too.

People, a lot of people, ignore the rule, I don't see many people getting ticketed or getting into trouble for it either. I'm not worried about the people who do smoke near a door, but am disgusted at the ones who take their last puff before entering the building and blowing the smoke out once they're inside (and of course, people smoking around their small children . . .)

[One-Fang]

I'm kinda on the fence because I don't care enough to find out more. But my personal leaning is towards banning it. It may not be harmful, but it's bloody disgusting. My lack of shirt or spitting food out when I talk isn't going to make your food taste worse. It's the only 'disgusting behaviour' I can think of that directly affects my experience as a co-customer.

[Nick]

In the foyer of our entrance (I work at Walmart), people light up in there all the time. Especially when it rains here, you can get 2-3 people lighting up, and we have to remind them that it's not our policy, it's law that they cannot smoke inside the building.
If I want a smoke (I'm 17...:devil: ), I'll go down the sidewalk, or out onto the picnic bench on the side of the building for one. I hate walking towards a building and getting the smell of smoke in my face before I enter.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I smoke, and I don't like walking thru a cloud of smoke either. However, I don't see that banning it is going to help overmuch... all that will happen is that the government will have to get the tax they get off cigarettes some other way, ie by raising taxes and putting petrol tax up higher. So, everyone, smokers and non smokers, will suffer if smoking's banned.

[red hot pegasus]

Back when I worked at Burger King in western MA in the early 1990's, the
manager on duty had me go ovet to our sunroom(non-smoking) section
abd politely tell agentleman to please extinguish his cigarette. The idiot did
as he was told,but didn't like it. Afterwards I had to clean off the 2 tables he and his family trashed before they left.

[Becks]

As a smoker, I try to be considerate of others. Of course, it can get to be a problem when a horde of non-smokers (coworkers AND customers) decide to take over the smoking area at work. :sigh:

And back to the OP, I guess he figures "if it's not expressly forbidden, it's allowed"?:confused:

[South Texan]

SC: Well I'm not putting this out! Do you know how much these cost!?

Sir, it is not my fault that you make bad investments with your money. Spending your money on foolish things does not entitle you to violate my company's policies or the law.

[lordlundar]

Either you put out what you're smoking, or I'll put it out for you by shoving your face in the sidewalk outside.:devil: