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BunnyJas
09-24-2006, 02:16 PM
*NOTE-THIS IS A COPY OF AN EMAIL THAT WAS FORWARDED TO BUNNYJAS BY HER FATHER.

ATTORNEY'S ADVICE -- NO CHARGE

Read this and make a copy for your files in case you need to refer to it someday.

A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company. Maybe we should all take some of his advice!

1. Do not sign the back of your credit cards.
Instead, put "PHOTO ID REQUIRED".

2. When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT put the complete account number on the "For" line. Instead, just put the last four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number, and anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check processing channels won't have access to it.

3. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you have a PO Box use that instead of your home address. If you do not have a PO Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks (DUH!). You can add it if it is necessary but, if you have it printed, anyone can get it.

4. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my passport when I travel either here or abroad. We've all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security number, credit cards, etc..
Unfortunately, I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieves ordered an expensive monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to change my driving record information online, and more. But here's some critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or someone you know.

5. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But the key is having the toll-free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know whom to call. Keep those where you can find them.

6. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit cards, etc. were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were diligent, and this is a first step toward an investigation (if there ever is one).

But here's what is perhaps most important of all (I never even thought to do this.).
7. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a fraud alert on your name and also call the Social Security fraud line number. I had never heard of doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have to contact you by phone to authorize new credit. By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all the damage had been done. There are records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before placing the alert. Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my wallet away this weekend (someone turned it in). It seems to have stopped them dead in their tracks.

Now, here are the numbers you always need to contact about your wallet, etc., has been stolen:
1.) Equifax: 1-800-525-6285
2.) Experian (formerly TRW): 1-888-397-3742
3.) Trans Union: 1-800-680-7289
4.) Social Security Administration (fraud line): 1-800-269-0271

CanadaGirl
09-24-2006, 04:42 PM
I wonder if that is considered spam. Most of that "information" is already known. #2 doesn't even work in this day and age, since there is just a perforated slip you tear off that goes with your check, that has your card number on it. #4, most people already have more than one copy of the cards in their wallet, incase of theft or just accidentally loosing it. Not every wallet that is stolen has a credit card (for myself, I only use it online, so it stays at home), and if it does have a credit card in it, not everyone is going to use it to buy stuff. A credit card is so easily traceable these days, you'd have to be completely brain dead to try to buy stuff with a stolen one.

AFpheonix
09-24-2006, 07:02 PM
As for #2, most bills that you pay with a check tell you to write the account # on the check somewhere so that in the event the slip and check get seperated, they can at least match the 2 up (especially if the name on the account and the name on the check don't match, which is the case with me: my husband's name is on the utility accounts, but I pay them).

But, just about anything I can submit a payment online for, I will.

dispatch
09-24-2006, 10:29 PM
am I so old fashioned for paying most of my bills in cash?

lordlundar
09-25-2006, 01:27 AM
I wonder if that is considered spam.

Possibly. Depends on the definition of spam. It's good advice free of charge so I don't consider it as such. And though the knowledge may be "well known", it always bears repeating.

BunnyJas
09-25-2006, 02:42 AM
I wonder if that is considered spam. Most of that "information" is already known. #2 doesn't even work in this day and age, since there is just a perforated slip you tear off that goes with your check, that has your card number on it. #4, most people already have more than one copy of the cards in their wallet, incase of theft or just accidentally loosing it. Not every wallet that is stolen has a credit card (for myself, I only use it online, so it stays at home), and if it does have a credit card in it, not everyone is going to use it to buy stuff.

I don't see how helpful info with no strings attached can be spam. My dad (also an attorney) sent this to me and I know that he always checks up on these forwards. This may be common sense to you which is great, but there are people out there like me who did not know all of this stuff. I don't have copies made of credit cards and most people I know (me included) do keep them in their wallet.

A credit card is so easily traceable these days, you'd have to be completely brain dead to try to buy stuff with a stolen one.

Not exactly. Credit cards can be easily traceable, but the thieves know this too and work fast. I've heard of situations where purses or wallets were stolen while the victim was preoccupied with something else (i.e. eating at a restaraunt, looking at merchandise in a store) which often makes them not aware right away that their info has been stolen. Within an hour or less, the theives have already racked up thousands of dollars on the accounts. They then ditch the info before they are caught and move on to a new victim. The lesson here is 1) keep an eye on your stuff and 2) always report the crime asap; don't assume that the thieves will just get caught.

CanadaGirl
09-25-2006, 03:30 AM
Oh dear dear Bunnyjas. That is not your info to post. That is a chain letter. I have seen it around the web for many years. It's nothing new. This thread should be locked or deleted.

Site 1 (http://www.arboristsite.com/archive/index.php/t-20504.html)
Site 2 (http://www.illuminati-news.com/attorney's-advice.htm)
Site 3 (http://www.omahaimc.org/newswire/display/116/index.php)

Might not want to post information that is considered spam and is already easily accessable to anyone who has an internet connection.

Ree
09-25-2006, 04:12 AM
Oh dear dear Bunnyjas. That is not your info to post. That is a chain letter. I have seen it around the web for many years. It's nothing new. This thread should be locked or deleted.

Site 1 (http://www.arboristsite.com/archive/index.php/t-20504.html)
Site 2 (http://www.illuminati-news.com/attorney's-advice.htm)
Site 3 (http://www.omahaimc.org/newswire/display/116/index.php)

Might not want to post information that is considered spam and is already easily accessable to anyone who has an internet connection.CanadaGirl, if you have a problem with this post, then use the report button.

You are not a mod on this site, and as such, have no business telling other members what they may post on this board.


I realize all of this information is available on the internet, and is an email that gets forwarded around, but that doesn't mean BunnyJas had no right to post it here.

I don't think copyright laws would apply to it, since, as you pointed out, it is readily available all over the internet.

BunnyJas did not spam anyone's email or PM with this, so why on earth would you imply that the thread needs to be locked or deleted?
If you have an issue with this thread, then don't open it.

For the record, I checked it out on snopes.com, and it says a majority of this message is good advice, but some is only half right.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/credit.htm

BusBus
09-26-2006, 04:20 AM
Personally, I think that it was nice of Bunny to post this. Although it is common knowledge to some of us, it is not to many people.

I am very careful (borderline paranoid) with what I carry in my wallet. I have my driver's license and my medical card. I have my debit card and my credit card. I also have my useless array of store cards that I couldn't care less if they get lost. Even when I travel outside of the province/country, my medical card and uselss store cards are taken out and replaced with my passport (which is securely tucked away in a waist pouch under my pants).
The number of people that I know who carry their birth certificates/citizenship cards, their SIN cards, their entire array of credit cards etc etc EVERYWHERE makes me believe that this is NOT common knowledge. You lose your wallet and you're screwed. With that stuff, someone could steal your identity and ruin you quickly.

So, before any of you condemn this thread, have a look in your wallets/purses and see what you have in there. If you are only carrying what you need on a day to day basis (photo ID, your usual plastic method of payment, other necessary cards), then that's great-you're prepared for the worst case scenario. If not, then, instead of complaining, sort your waller/purse out and be happy that you're doing this now, in the event that, someday, you do get robbed.

JuniorMintz
09-26-2006, 04:42 AM
Thanks for the post, BunnyJas. #5 especially is something that should have been obvious, but I never thought about it before.

And Dispatch... yes. Yes, you are. :D

RavenStarr
09-26-2006, 11:34 AM
I thought spamming was making several consecutive posts in a row on the same thread.

But yeah that is good advice.

LostMyMind
09-26-2006, 06:09 PM
Spamming is pretty much considered to be "unwanted advertising" or "chain email" types.

The OP falls under the "chain email" type. Regardless, like the mods said. OP kind is allowed and don't fall under the specific bans. Never hurts to be reminded, not all of us are genius ;)