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Kusanagi
10-24-2006, 01:12 AM
I'm in a really bad way here. This is just to vent, but if anyone can offer some solutions, I would greatly appreciate them. :(

I am having SERIOUS financial issues that just got way out of hand. I will freely admit I am not one that has an iron grip on my money, and I know this is my fault, but it still doesn't make things better. A little bit of background.

This time last year, I had been with my current furniture store for almost a year as a manager. I wanted to move on and make some more pay, as I was set on moving out of California and I couldn't do it on the budget I was on, and the pay I was making. The traffic there was REALLY slow, and I was the ONLY one working there, six days a week. I wanted to get into a more stable lifestyle. The showroom I was at only wrote up about 200k a year, and I was writing up over three-fourths of that.

Before I left, they offered me the management position at a store up in Los Angeles, one that wrote up over a million yearly. This would have caused my commissions to fly through the roof. However, I was unable to make the move in any way, shape or form. I was not making enough to move, and I explained that.

I was approached to be an independant contractor from a life insurance company. I obtained my liscence, and went tow rok for them. The problem was, I had just turned 21, and nobody wanted to sit with a 21 year old and discuss life and health insurance. I WAS part of a company, but the pay was commission only. Nobody more experienced wanted to take me underneath their wing, because it would mean more competition to find clients, and also time wasted where they could be looking for clients. I hung on desperately for three months, living on my credit cards and stretched my finances to their limit. Finally, I threw in the towel, and went to work for the mattress store in February. I had been approached many times while I worked at my old store to move over there (I was friends with all the employees and our stores were right next to each other). I went through the training program, and had perfect book knowledge, but when it came to being on the sales floor, I could not close sales.

Why? I could not lie to close them. I knew exactly how much each piece cost - the $3,000 sofa cost 800 for us, TOPS. Our technique was to MAKE UP reasons for discounting, to make the customer THINK they were getting a great deal. This was lying flat out and I did not have the ability to try to get everything I could out of someone just to grease my pocket. We parted ways because I was not meeting my goals.

So, I went back to my old furniture store, here in San Diego. We have a handful of showrooms here, and they placed me at the highest volume one. I started back in May. I used my training I had at the mattress store to make alot more sales. Slowly, I started to get out of the debt I had accumulated.

Then my car blew up. Well, the lower half of the engine, anyway. For no reason. Suddenly, I found myself with the need to get a new one, and I did, but it is has required maintinance, that has been a further burden on me. The car is heavily modded and as such, when something breaks it costs more to fix than something stock. So now we add on a new car payment and the increased insurance as well.

I'm living paycheck to paycheck, and I have additional bills leftover from when I broke my ankle. They overpaid me, apparently, and before I found out I used the money to do some routine maintinance on the car, and some serious stuff that needed to be fixed. So I got a bill stating they overpayed me by about 750 dollars. The car was then hit TWICE while it was parked, and even though I have all the information from the people that did it, including the VIN numbers of the cars that did it, the police and the insurance won't help me with it. I have no recourse. So now the car neds a completely new rear bumper, and since it's a bodykit, it will not be too cheap.

There were two things that finally pushed it over the edge. This summer, our competitor opened a HUGE showroom down the street from us and our business has dropped off by over 70%. My salaried pay just got cut from $400 weekly to $300 weekly and with the drop in business, the commission went to practically nothing because we are just not making sales. A dozen businesses up and down our street have closed, because of this competitor. Basically, we cannot compete and I fully realize this. But to have the pay cut, is not something I can do if ?I want to be making payments on anything but interest charges.

The SECOND issue I found out was that my insurance was not automatically drafting from my account, and I never recieved ANY notification this was happening until I got a notice from them to pay $900 or the insurance would be cancelled (and I would STILL owe it to them.) So I did, draining virtually ALL the money to my name.

Then the car payment DID draw out from the account, overdrawing it. Combined with fees for doing so, my checking account was overdrawn by nearly five hundred dollars, and my credit card (which was already close to maxed out because I've been making minimum payments and haven't been using it at all) was overdrawn as well because it was the second source of funds if I something happened to overdrawn the checking account. So now I have two overdrawn accounts, one maxed out, and just lost roughly a third of my pay, counting for commissions. Add in the whole situation with Ghetto Superstar, and I am stressing quite a bit.

I have no idea what to do. The management spot is still open in Los Angeles, and the sales associates up there make roughly three times as much as I do. But I am unable to make ends meet, at all, and there is nothing I can fall back on. I love this company, I love working here, but I understand they had to do the pay cut (is was part of my original contract if I didn't sell a certain amount of volume per month, and with the competitor opening, no way that's happening) and I WOULD like to get to the position in Los Angeles.

I'm currently looking for a second job in addition to this one to try and help me get out of the hole, or at the very least, keep me from going any deeper. I haven't slept soundly in a week, if I sleep at all, and I'm not making any progress with another job.

Ugh. I am at a complete and utter loss, and this is the first time in my life I have truly felt helpless.

BrightEyedKitty
10-24-2006, 04:38 AM
I'd say move to LA.

As for your car, any reason why you can't go to a junkyard and grab a stock bumper?

Kusanagi
10-24-2006, 05:32 AM
I WOULD move to LA if it was possible, but I am in no financial situation to make the move and I wouldn't try it with at least five grand behind me.

The car has a custom bodykit and the only way to get a new bumper is to order one.

Kiwi
10-24-2006, 05:52 AM
you need to see if your area has a financial expert who can help you for free (or cheaply) to sort out how to get you out of this hole.

go to your family, or friends, anyone who can help you with this, it is not something to tackle alone, if you have to, get in touch with everyone you owe money to and talk to them, let them know you want to pay but you are going to have to compromise on your due payments.

most companies just want their money, even if it comes in more slowly.

can you sell the car? do you have a friend whos a body worker (carbody) who will let you pay them with beer or on a payment plan?

im sorry your in such a crappy situation right now! good luck, you will get through it no matter how bleak it seems.

can the company help you out in anyway with moving costs (even if its just a loan), my old craft manager was helped with her security deposit (for her rental house) and a couple of days in a motel to find a place... maybe a fellow manager who can let you crash on their couch.... go to the company, talk to everyone you know, find a way.

Barefootgirl
10-24-2006, 09:40 AM
Would the LA store offer you some sort of bridging loan to cover your expenses in coming out to California? If they are that keen to have you, and you explain your financial situation to them, they may well offer you some sort of temporary payment to allow you to get on your feet in LA and get selling for them. Its not an unheard-of set-up, lots of people do it every year.

Its insane to run such an expensive car while you're on the edge of bankruptcy. Sorry to sound mean, but really, why have you got something that's modded and costs a fortune to insure and repair? Sell it, or trade it in for a boring but reliable junker.

BrightEyedKitty
10-24-2006, 04:22 PM
Yeah, I understand body kits are expensive, but they're removable. Has the car been modded to the point where the stock bumper will no longer attach? It won't match, but the car will still run and drive, right? ;)

I'd say remove some of the mods on your car and take it back to stock, and sell the aftermarket stuff. That should get you a few extra bucks while still leaving you transportation.

I'm not sure how much a bodykit for your car costs, but if I wanted to get one for mine it'd run me about a grand. Now, I'm going to assume that what you drive has a more common aftermarket than my 15-year-old Cavalier, but regardless, a stock bumper at the junkyard will run you, what, $50? Aftermarket, $200? Or even pick up a fiberglass or urethane repair kit and have a go at fixing it yourself.

digilight
10-24-2006, 04:48 PM
I agree with the others. At this point in time, pull off the rear body kit and toss a junkyard bumper on (just for protection in case of a accident), put the reusable portions of the kit away for when you have the funds to rebuild it how you want (this just shouldn't be a priority right now). You said that you live in San Diego, at least this isn't to far from LA. Financially right now it seems like a million miles from where you could be to get to move there but it will get there.

Being as its San Diego, a larger college town, you have the option for a muriad of second job opprotunities, and a lot of them tipable positions. Theres pizza delivery, if you're good enough at the right store you can get some good tips (learned this from my wife who worked pizza for over 8 years before she got out of it). Bartending/Waitstaff. Theres also security work, most security companies will hire just about anyone (my wifes cousin owns one of the larger ones in the area here and I've seen some of his employee's), Bouncing at a bar/club.

I just had a business meeting with a local gym and they are allways looking for sales people for their membership and training packages. You could try a local gym and see if they are looking for any sales people. Be warned though that gyms seem to have a very high turn over rate of employee's (at least the ones I deal with do)

It sounds as if you are single, you are still young and have a good earning potential, you're not afraid of a salesman position and can handle it without getting slimey, (believe it or not a lot of customers will respect that of you if they get the vibe that you are a good guy and don't have the heart to screw them over).

Stay focused on the big picture, you can come out of this. Good luck

PuckishOne
10-24-2006, 06:44 PM
Its insane to run such an expensive car while you're on the edge of bankruptcy. Sorry to sound mean, but really, why have you got something that's modded and costs a fortune to insure and repair? Sell it, or trade it in for a boring but reliable junker.
Kus, I have to agree with Barefootgirl here. It sucks, yes, but the only truly reliable way to get back on your feet, financially, is to cut out everything that's not a necessity - which includes spiffy cars and their accompanying maintenance and insurance bills. :(

With the new changes to the laws, it is much more difficult to declare personal bankruptcy, and I think many financial advisors will try to dissuade you anyhow, since it's a huge negative mark on your credit history, will probably follow you around longer than it should, and makes you an easy mark for predatory credit-help scammers. If you can reduce your expenses to bare-bones (food, roof over head, beater car to get from A to B, vital bills such as heat/water/phone) that could go a long way towards helping you dig out. A second job would give you an even bigger leg up, and possibly help you accomplish your goals even faster.

Good luck, Kusanagi...you don't deserve all of this crap happening to you, but, as digilight says, if you keep focused on the bigger goal, you will prevail. :)

Kusanagi
10-25-2006, 04:38 AM
1) The car was not that expensive. It's an 02, and I payed eight grand for it, which is very good despite the fact it has modifications. And I am unable to sell it until I get it fixed, because nobody is going to buy a car with a mangled bumper (without leaving me around 5k on a car I no longer own ;) ) I wasn't ready to shoulder the depreciation value on a new car. Plus, I was making a hell of alot more money when I got it too, so it's no big deal to me. Besides, my car is my baby. And I'm doing the majority of the work on it myself and saving a fortune, and learning alot. None of the damage is structural, however, and that is good.

2) The company unfortunately has no provisions for moving associates, so that's right out. I'm looking for a second job, since I love this one and the manager spot will be available once I am able to get up there, even if it does take until next year.

3) Got a handle on my finances, and the total including the car and everything else is a little over $16,000. Only about a thousand of that is immediate, however, and I am able to cover it. Don't know how I'm going to make quite a dent in it without a few months, but I will be able to.

Thanks for the comments and constructive critique. I'll inform you all on how the job search is going :wave:

ditchdj
10-25-2006, 12:06 PM
Considering that a one-bedroom home in CA typically costs half a million dollars, I dont see how anyone outside of Hollywood celebrities, well-connected people and business owners can even support themselves out there. My teacher that I did my student teaching under has a nephew that's a Hollywood actor and he's still just getting by living out there.

digilight
10-25-2006, 03:29 PM
Ditchdj, it typically depends on where you are living in relation to the cost (not to state the obvious). But there are areas where you can get a small home for between 300 and 400 thousand (by small I would say 2+1 or a 3+2 (bedrooms + bathrooms).

I know there are parts where the median home price is between 900,000 and 1,000,000 (Santa Barbara Southcoast). But yeah it is freaken out of controll. I live right outside of Ventura (about halfway between LA and Santa Barbara, 45 miles to either give or take) and theres no way we could buy a house around here. We got lucky buying a condo cheap 7 years ago and selling high about 3 years ago to buy our mobile. Yup thats about the best you can do anymore, my mother in law just paid around 225,000 for her mobile home a few months ago.

Crap, now I wanna move somewhere where it's cheaper.

protege
10-25-2006, 04:13 PM
After reading about the home prices, I'm glad I stayed in PA. Around here, a 2 or 3 bedroom can be had for less than $100k.

I'm going through some of what you're going through, Kusanagi. I just bought a place, and I've hit hard with bills. Actually, kicked in nuts by them :eek: is more like it. It wasn't too bad until this week. Not only did the seller *finally* get around to cashing the check I'd given them for the furnace repairs, but my credit card company didn't get the payment for last month...so I have to pay for that *again*, but also for this month too! The original check got a "stop payment" put on it, but still. Throw in the other bills that came due, plus the fact that the car's going to need new tires along with new brakes next year, and things are going to be tight for awhile :cry:

But, hang in there. Things are bound to get better. I could be even worse off--I could still be making car payments, as well as paying on student loans. Thank God I paid those two off early.