PDA

View Full Version : Stargate SG-1


draggar
06-27-2009, 06:02 PM
I don't know why I didn't get into this series when it was on. I've been watching the DVDs (well, I've done the first two discs of season one) and it's very interesting.

Why do I tend to not be interested in series like these when they are on?

(And yes, I plan on watching Atlantis when this season is done).

Rine
06-27-2009, 08:25 PM
Hulu.com has a lot of the series up. Well, I think maybe the first two season of SG-1, at least.

I have been a fan of Stargate since the show first aired on Showtime.

But sometimes I am in the same boat as you. I got into shows like Monk and House, MD only after several seasons of them being on air. It's annoying, isn't it?

RayvenQ
06-27-2009, 08:36 PM
I'm quite the opposite, I've watched it ever since it came on, I've watched, well, every episode several times, I have all the Series and the two movies on DVD.

JoitheArtist
06-27-2009, 08:45 PM
I do the same thing: I got into Babylon 5, Buffy, Angel, Bones, Stargate SG-1, and Doctor Who, all after they had been going for a long time and I had to play catch-up.

SG-1 I liked a lot, but felt like it jumped the shark after the third season. They just tend to fall into the "no, wait, this season's bad guy is REALLY the worst thing ever! Seriously!" I dislike that (one reason why I enjoyed B5 so much). But it's still fun, the characters are interesting, etc. My friends were mostly into Daniel, but it's Jack all the way for me! :)

morwynskya
06-27-2009, 08:46 PM
I don't know why I didn't get into this series when it was on. I've been watching the DVDs (well, I've done the first two discs of season one) and it's very interesting.

Why do I tend to not be interested in series like these when they are on?

(And yes, I plan on watching Atlantis when this season is done).


I totally get that. I'm just now catching up on Star Trek DS9, Stargate SG1, Battlestar Galactica AND Supernatural. Never watched them when they were first run - now I'm completely addicted.

RayvenQ
06-27-2009, 08:55 PM
I do the same thing: I got into Babylon 5, Buffy, Angel, Bones, Stargate SG-1, and Doctor Who, all after they had been going for a long time and I had to play catch-up.

SG-1 I liked a lot, but felt like it jumped the shark after the third season. They just tend to fall into the "no, wait, this season's bad guy is REALLY the worst thing ever! Seriously!" I dislike that (one reason why I enjoyed B5 so much). But it's still fun, the characters are interesting, etc. My friends were mostly into Daniel, but it's Jack all the way for me! :)

Yeah it was kinda annoying that it went "Oh No, Goa'uld" then "Oh No, Replicators...OH NO ORI!"

But, I guess that's what it took to keep the series going.

My favourite Bad Guy was Ba'al (Cliff Simon is awesome)

Vala was a great addition to the show too.
200 is a fantastic episode, but Unending is my absoloute favourite, indeed.

B5 was good because the build up to the conflict with the Shadows was a slow build up and was mostly a backdrop for the character interactions.

Boozy
06-27-2009, 09:19 PM
I'm just now catching up on Star Trek DS9, Stargate SG1, Battlestar Galactica AND Supernatural. Never watched them when they were first run - now I'm completely addicted.

My husband and I are also watching Battlestar Galactica and Supernatural. BG is a really great show, and I'm enjoying it immensely. I don't even like scif-fi, but this show is so well written it doesn't matter.

I'm not so sure that I like Supernatural. The acting is a bit weak and the writing a bit trite. But it has some entertaining bits.

The best part about getting into shows on DVDs is that you can watch them on your own schedule. No season-end cliffhangers for me! I just pop in the next disc and keep going.

Broomjockey
06-27-2009, 09:39 PM
My husband and I are also watching Battlestar Galactica and Supernatural. BG is a really great show, and I'm enjoying it immensely. I don't even like scif-fi, but this show is so well written it doesn't matter.


Well, I like BSG a whole bunch too, but I've often heard critics cite that BSG is a submarine drama in the guise of a space opera. That might be part of why you like it. :)


And I'm fairly certain my feelings about SG-1 are known. :D But to speak to the escalating bad guys, I feel that if you do some deep analysis, you find an interesting trend. In the first few seasons, the SGC is basically stumbling around in the galaxy, usually trying to fix what they've fucked up. Basically lucking out in not meeting total disaster. It's not until after the third season that they start being proactive on a better scale. Rather than stumbling across problems, they know what the problems are, and go to solve them.

However, I will fully admit to the Ori saga being BS. It was fully a case of "crap, we got two more seasons, but we just took out all the bad guys. We need someone tougher, so difficulties in taking them on don't seem like a joke."

dmcglu82
06-27-2009, 10:20 PM
SG-1 is an awesome show, I think the series went down hill after it went to Sci-Fi it was so much better on Showtime. I just started buying the seasons on Dvd. Wal-mart has the first 6 seasons for 14.96 each.
.

AnaKhouri
06-27-2009, 10:43 PM
Husband started watching it and I have been watching it here and there; I haven't seen nearly all the episodes but watch it if he is watching it and I happen to be home. We're up to season 7. General Hammond is my favorite. ;) But we both have a crush on Major Carter too. I am rather liking Anubis right now, and am rather glad Daniel Jackson is mostly gone (he annoyed me).

(Since someone mentioned BSG, we saw an episode where the guy who plays the Chief was a Jaffa! These sf actors seem to hop around from sf show to sf show)

Dave1982
06-27-2009, 10:56 PM
Don't start watching Atlantis until you get through season 7 of SG-1 or it won't make sense.

I'm not sure what the problem is with the Ori. They were awesome bad guys. The reason it seems forced is because the show's producers didn't know that Sci-Fi was going to renew the series until they'd already committed thelmselves to the storyline that ended season 8. Even then, they had planned to rename the show "Stargate Command" and take it in another direction.

draggar
06-27-2009, 10:56 PM
Hulu.com has a lot of the series up. Well, I think maybe the first two season of SG-1, at least.

I have the entire series on by Blockbuster list. I have them thrown in between movies and other shows. :)

I'm quite the opposite, I've watched it ever since it came on, I've watched, well, every episode several times, I have all the Series and the two movies on DVD.

Only two movies? ;) My wife and I are big fans of the original Stargate Movie (Kurt Russell), Continuum was good but I haven't seen the Arc of Truth yet. Atlantis: Rising was an interesting episode, too.

I do the same thing: I got into Babylon 5, Buffy, Angel, Bones, Stargate SG-1, and Doctor Who, all after they had been going for a long time and I had to play catch-up.

SG-1 I liked a lot, but felt like it jumped the shark after the third season. They just tend to fall into the "no, wait, this season's bad guy is REALLY the worst thing ever! Seriously!" I dislike that (one reason why I enjoyed B5 so much). But it's still fun, the characters are interesting, etc. My friends were mostly into Daniel, but it's Jack all the way for me! :)

So I only have two more full seasons of good episodes? ;) I caught some good ones while they were on Sci-Fi (repeats and newer ones). We'll see how it goes.

Don't start watching Atlantis until you get through season 7 of SG-1 or it won't make sense.

I wasn't going to until SG-1 was done. ;) But I have seen the first episode (Rising). I also caught some of the episodes on TV when they were on.

RayvenQ
06-27-2009, 11:38 PM
Yeah, I haven't got the original movie on DVD.

Ark of Truth is pretty decent, it pretty much wraps up the Ori arc, plus finally a particular ascended being gets to do something.

I wish the Vala/Adria relationship could have been expanded a bit more though.

Eric the Grey
06-28-2009, 01:27 AM
But sometimes I am in the same boat as you. I got into shows like Monk and House, MD only after several seasons of them being on air. It's annoying, isn't it?

I'm the same way, but in my case, it's because I've tended to be working the nights the shows were on, so I had to miss them. Now, I have a DVR and don't have to, and my NetFlix account is allowing me to catch up.

I've been introduced to a few other series' that I've started to like. I'm just starting House MD (Season 1, disk 3 tonight) and have gotten kind of hooked on NCIS.

I have all the Series and the two movies on DVD.

I have all of them except Continuum. For some reason, it's missing from my shelf, even though I've bought and watched it. I guess I'll have to pick up another copy...

My favourite Bad Guy was Ba'al (Cliff Simon is awesome)

Ba'al was the best enemy they had. He even pulled stuff that SG1 did in a few shows. It made a nice counterpoint to their activities.

The best part about getting into shows on DVDs is that you can watch them on your own schedule. No season-end cliffhangers for me! I just pop in the next disc and keep going.

Unless you get to the end of one season, watch the cliffhanger, and have to wait 2 days for the next disk to come in. THEN IT'S BROKEN AND YOU CAN'T WATCH IT!!!! And then they send you the second disk of the next season, and you have to wait on it until the first disk comes in so you can watch the first one beforehand, and .......

Luckily that only happened once. :D

:cool: Eric the Grey

lordlundar
06-28-2009, 04:04 AM
B5 was good because the build up to the conflict with the Shadows was a slow build up and was mostly a backdrop for the character interactions.

That's because JMS (the executive producer and the guy who came up with and pretty much wrote the show) pretty much had the entire series fleshed out before the episodes were even written. That's why it's so difficult to find the differences in episodes with different directors. It also allowed the show to do episodic stories without breaking the major arc(s).

In the case of SG-1, it was taken on a season by season approach, particularly noticeable with seasons 9 and 10. So unfortunately, there were some episodes where you're going "huh?" to, because it seemed like they said "we're stepping away from this for a little while". The lost city for example was most likely thrown in and worked around so they could throw in atlantis into the continuity.

Still not as bad as the star trek canon which gets downright silly when it involves continuity. Every series feels like it's wrapped up in it's own little bubble and gets a little rupture when the writers feel like it. The O'Brien on DS9 is the largest example where he was on the enterprise when it supposedly visits the station. (the episode I'm referring to is in TNG) O'Brien came in on the first day the federation started administration in DS9 continuity and was even there before Brashir, but in the TNG episode, the station has been under federation administration for some time, in full operation, and O'Brien had never been on the station before that, met Brashir while the doctor was already stationed there, and did not stay on the station.

But that's just a personal beef of mine.:D

Rine
06-28-2009, 04:12 AM
I liked Daniel Jackson. I think his character was my favorite even from the original movie. But I looooved Jonas Quinn, though everyone else seemed to hate him.

I haven't really watched seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1. To me, it lost most of it's appeal with the Ori. I thoroughly enjoyed Atlantis and I'm still mad that they cancelled it. I think it should have gotten one more season to flesh things out.

I also have all the seasons for SG-1 and I think the first three seasons for Atlantis. I also own all the movies that have come out.

Ba'al was my favorite too. That was a great bad guy and I think *the* bad guy of the whole series (well, after he was introduced). He's got to be the longest lasting, anyway.

gremcint
06-28-2009, 04:31 AM
currently own the three movies (Stargate, Ark of truth, Continuum) 1-10 of SG1 and 1-4 of sga, and the core book for the rpg. anxiously awaiting the atlantis movie and the new series stargate universe.

To the ori haters: continuum has nothing to do with the ori. Also I really like the Ori and you may have a better time of it if you pretend it is a different show or spinoff of the old one, between the cast changes and the new badguys it basically is a new show.

Also someone commented on scifi actors getting around, by the time stargate and atlantis had finished they had actors from: dead like me, star trek tng, princess bride, firefly, psi factor, andromeda, farscape, macguyver and more in the show and a lot of them were major characters.

Also you guys should try David hewlett's movie a dog's breakfast, it has him his sister, dr. beckett and teal'c.

SG1 is my favorite show of all time, sga is number two.

Window of opportunity and lost city are my favourtie episodes.

Racket_Man
06-28-2009, 08:10 AM
That's because JMS (the executive producer and the guy who came up with and pretty much wrote the show) pretty much had the entire series fleshed out before the episodes were even written. That's why it's so difficult to find the differences in episodes with different directors. It also allowed the show to do episodic stories without breaking the major arc(s).

D

that is what I LOVED about B5. JMS wrote the show to BE a 5 season story arc (except that PTEN canceled it after 4 seasons and TBS picked it up. that is why the end of season 4 was that peice of crap look into the future/past). yeah to TBS for at least picking up season 5 (thank whatever I had cable at the time)

and the spinoff show (can not remember the name Crusadue I think ) was supposed to be a 3 season story arc but only lasted one season

Caveat Emptor
06-28-2009, 09:03 AM
I don't know why I didn't get into this series when it was on. I've been watching the DVDs (well, I've done the first two discs of season one) and it's very interesting.

Why do I tend to not be interested in series like these when they are on?

(And yes, I plan on watching Atlantis when this season is done).

Indeed. :D

Gravekeeper
06-28-2009, 09:07 AM
I had to walk through their damn sets constantly on my way to work.

Most their bases, head quarters and cafes were right next to my old office or one block further down at the Vancouver Art Gallery. They loved the Gallery and the Vancouver Law Courts as shooting locations. So I was forever walking through a shitload of studio lights, military humvees and oddly costumed extras.

God they had a lot of humvees. Any one set they going usually had 4-6 military humvees dominating the street.

Funny part is I didn't even watch the show at the time ( nor have I much at all ), so I couldn't tell you if I bumped into any of the cast or not.. >.>

RayvenQ
06-28-2009, 11:45 AM
It's not that I don't like the Ori as bad guys (Hell, you never actually see one onscreen) so much as it is that each and every villian was supposedly more deadly than the last, yet they easily beat them.

I hate most of the Ascended with a passion though (Except for Oma, Gannos and Myrdin) their mortal enemy has invaded their galaxy and in in the process of converting/conquering it and you can't even be bothered to get off your arse and do something. Plus they're uptight and somewhat arseholeish beings (going off what they put Oma through after one simple mistake)

I liked the fact that actors from other sci fi shows turned up, probably because they happened to be my favourite actors of the shows.

As for bad guys, Yeah, Ba'al was great.

The only thing that annoyed me were some minor inconsitencies, Ra Apparantlley dominated the earth, and yet each goa'uld somehow took on the persona of one of the earth gods (though i suppose they all could have ruled at some point, though that's never really been gone through) but, from a mythological standpoind, It wound me up that the Asgard, who were supposed to have taken the persona of the Norse Gods, were called the Asgard, Asgard was the home of the norse gods, Aesir was the name of their race.

JoitheArtist
06-28-2009, 04:00 PM
that is what I LOVED about B5. JMS wrote the show to BE a 5 season story arc (except that PTEN canceled it after 4 seasons and TBS picked it up. that is why the end of season 4 was that peice of crap look into the future/past). yeah to TBS for at least picking up season 5 (thank whatever I had cable at the time)

Hey, Deconstruction of Falling Stars is one of my favorite eps! It even has an homage to Canticle for Leibowitz!

SG15Z
06-28-2009, 04:45 PM
It's ok I didn't get into the show until the beginning of the 7th season. But i managed to play catch up. It's a fun series, and I hope SG Universe is as good as it looks in the trailers.