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stickycoins
07-17-2006, 04:19 AM
This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries by the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Quality, State of Pennsylvania . This guy's response is hilarious, but read the State's letter before you get to the response letter.


SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County

Dear Mr. DeVries:

It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality
that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced
parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner
and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams
across the outlet stream of Spring Pond.

A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity.

A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been
issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is
in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource
and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being
sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated.

The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially
failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream
locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and
cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and
desist all activities at this location, and to restore the str eam to a free-flow
condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream
channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2006.

Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that
a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff.

Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on
the site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action..

We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.
Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

Sincerely,
David L. Price
District Rep resentative and Water Management Division.


Here is the actual response sent back by Mr. DeVries:

Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County

Dear Mr. Price,

Your certified letter dated 12/17/02 has been handed to me to respond to.
I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget Lane,
Trout Run, Pennsylvania.

A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing
and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my
Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project,
I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures
building materials "debris." I would like to challenge your department to
attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you choose.
I believe I can safely state th ere is no way you could ever match their dam
skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam
persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must
first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity.

My first dam question to you is:
(1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers, or
(2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request?

If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through the
Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those other
applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will see
if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams,
of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the
Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania
Compiled Laws, annotated.

I have several concerns. My first concern is, aren't the beavers entitled
to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute
and are unable to pay for said representation -- so the State will have to
provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that
either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event, causing
flooding, is proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the Department
is required to protect. In other words, we should leave the Spring Pond
Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling their dam names.

If you want the stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition please
contact the beavers -- but if you are going to arrest them, they obviously
did not pay any attention to your dam letter, they being unable to read English.

In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build
their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green
and water flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to
live and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources
and Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it sho uld protect
the natural resources (Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams).

So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be
referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait
until 1/31/2006? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice
then and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to
contact/harass them then.

In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention to a real
environmental quality, health, problem in the area. It is the
bears! Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely
believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and
leave the beavers alone.

If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step!
The bears are not careful where they dump!

Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable
to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this
response to your dam office.


THANK YOU.
RYAN DEVRIES & THE DAM BEAVERS

obod7x7
07-17-2006, 07:25 AM
Hillarious!!! Although, that did make me a bit sad and ashamed to live in the great (or is it?) state of Pennsylvania!

protege
07-17-2006, 03:31 PM
Hillarious!!! Although, that did make me a bit sad and ashamed to live in the great (or is it?) state of Pennsylvania!

LOL! That was awesome! But, it speaks volumes about the sort of crap that goes on in PA. Not too long ago, part of the hillside at my grandmother's farm collapsed. We started cleaning it up, since it caused her stream to back up and then flood one of the fields. The main reason, was that a large tree had come down the hill as well, and lodged itself in the stream--whenever it rained, it got messy. Usually, the field, as well as the road were under water in heavy rains. However, none of this was ever cleaned up. No sooner had we started, when some idiot official complained about it. Apparently, it was better for the environment to leave the tree/debris/earth in place and let the field (not to mention the damn road) get ruined...rather than put things back the way they were. Eventually though, I had one of the neighbors get his tractor and we dug a ditch around the mess, solving the problem.

PA seems to be all about paperwork. Quite a few things never get done, simply because they get caught up in all the "red tape," and other delays. You'd think they'd want to streamline things :rolleyes:

MadMike
07-18-2006, 05:42 AM
Dam!

That's all I have to say. :lol:

ditchdj
07-18-2006, 11:57 AM
Sounds to me like that state is a "police state", which is also home to a state trooper known at the "turnpike terror", responsible for writing out over a quarter of a million dollars worth of traffic tickets on the Turnpike annually. :lol:

Crazyredhead
07-19-2006, 08:58 PM
Pensylvania is a common wealth state. And living in Kentucky (also a commonwealth state) it doens't surprise me.

I was only 18 when I left Pa and I didn't keep up with the political end of things there. But having been in the military for the past 10 years, it wouldn't suprise me if the gov didn't go to that dam and demolish it, just to get revenge on that awesome letter.

Regardless, I still want to go back.

AFpheonix
07-20-2006, 07:47 PM
http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm

So while actually and sadly true, the true state that deserves to be maligned is Michigan, not Pennsylvania :)