Yo Mysty! I need your skills!!!! (And I'm sure others would benefit).

[thegiraffe]

I have this annoying...problem. Guys WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE. The easiest way to get me ticked off is to have the scum of the earth hit on me. Now, I recognize that there's a difference between being cordial or giving someone a nice compliment and being hit on. The former is fine with me. It's the latter that...grrr!!!

Alright, I get it. I'm attractive. Ok. However, that does NOT mean I'm to be stared at and drooled over like a nice juicy porterhouse steak. Yeah, not cool. I'm not seasoned, and I don't come with a side of mashed potatoes and grilled asparagus.

Mysty, I know you have this incredible gift of tearing people to pieces who....rub you the wrong way. How do you handle these morons?

(By the way, everyone else is welcome to respond as well. I've gotta up my repertoire of throwbacks. This is getting ridiculous.)

[Greenday]

Mmmm, seasoned steak and mashed potatoes. I know what I'm eating when I go home.

For the really obnoxious ones, just punch them. Especially if it's a group of guys being rude and obnoxious, hit the biggest one. When he hits the ground, his friends will crap themselves.

[lordlundar]

I've seen landmines work effectively.:devil:

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

A good, swift kick to the family jewels works nicely.

[Giggle Goose]

You could just tell them that you have a boyfriend. But that usually doesn't work very well, a lot of guys don't care. I'll wait for Mysty's input. ;)

[blas]

I'm sure Mysty could teach you many things, my young Padwon, and listen to what she tells you, but before you result to violence, try "I have a boyfriend", or if the guy hitting on you disgusts you that much, just say "eww" or "get bent" like I always do. Violence is only in reserves in case I get followed or groped/grabbed. As unfair as it sounds, these slimeballs have every right to hit on you and you are in the wrong in using violence UNLESS they touch you first.

This is my current problem: All the guys that notice me SHOULDN'T, and the ones that should DON'T.

Don't ask me why 3/4 of the guys that hit on me think that they actually have a chance with me. I don't know why.

[MystyGlyttyr]

Let's see, believe it or not, I don't get hit on a lot (I wonder why...).

Still, for advice, here's the various things I've done to "encourage" males to move on to greener pastures. Some I stole from websites, but hey, if they work, they work.

1. Just beating the living hell out of them. I wouldn't advise you go straight to this one, but I put it at number one because it IS the most efficient. Try to hold it in reserve slightly better than I do.

2. Immediately channel the "crazy girlfriend." The instant a guy talks to you, get REALLY. INTERESTED. In them. "Oh my GOD, I love you! Where do you live? Can I have your phone number? Where do you work? What kind of car do you drive? OH YOU'RE SO CUTE! Do you like cats? You'd love my cat!" etc., etc. Be REALLY bubbly and cheerful and SOO excited to be talking to them, and fire off as many personal questions as you can, as fast as you can. Don't even wait for an answer. If you can work in a way to start demanding that they buy you something expensive, go for it. They'll turn tail and run within a minute.

3. Channel "just plain crazy". The second they start hitting on you, just start STARING. Pretend they have one of those magic-eye pictures on their forehead and try to see it. Weave back and forth a little and start grinning...slowly, build it up to a whole-face grin. Then blurt out something like "I've got on cheese bra!!" Or whatever insane thought comes to mind first.

4. If you can cry on command, start sobbing the instant they talk to you. Full-blown wails and crying. If there's one thing guys can't handle, it's some girl they don't know crying. Particularly useful if you grab hold of them and start sobbing into their chest/shoulder.

5. Always carry a few crackers with you, and hopefully keep a brown soda or diet soda or whatever in range. If some guy won't get the hint, carefully get the crackers in your mouth, swig a bit of soda, chew it all up together, and at just the right moment, BAM, instant fake barf. Go for the front of the pants.

6. Ask him right away if you can borrow a hundred dollars. If he asks why, mutter something about the pregnancy center not taking checks anymore, then "correct" yourself and say you're joking, you just need cab fare home.

7. Ask if he'd be willing to have a three-way between the two of you and this "really super-cute friend" over there, and point to the nastiest, most revolting dude in the entire area. Bonus points if you can find a total fiend he brought along with him.

8. Mention you'd love to date, but he'll have to wait a week because you're having "your monthly friend" and the cramps are really atrocious, and...well, go into graphic detail. He'll be gone before you even get to the really gross stuff.

9. If nothing else works, just start screaming. Hysterics, freaking out, backing away, everything. He'll probably bolt, and if anyone else questions you on it, say he had a bug in his hair. :lol:

[BlaqueKatt]

my personal favorites are:

I'm saving up money to get into mortician's school(and if they're still there), so I have something to fall back on when my live action tentacle prawn(self-filter) career is over

either that or-

My husband is a six foot tall angry German man who knows Akido, and is insanely jealous-(true except for the insanely part)

[blas]

If all of the above fail, ask him if he saw you on Maury last winter, the episode where the audience tried to guess if the drag queens were men or women. Or you can lie and say that you used to be a man.

If a guy follows you around a store, make a beeline for the Vagisil or yeast infection treatments. If you aren't embarrassed easily, ask an associate for something to help "that rash...down there".....or start to grab multiple pregnancy tests and pretend to call up several guys on your cell phone to say "I'm late again..."

Whatever you do, never use the "I'm gay" line. It only makes sleazy guys more interested, and it will do nothing to make them leave you alone.

Other than pretending to be a crazy girl, pretend to be mentally insane. Start talking to yourself and slapping your face, screaming at the voices to stop.

Tell the guy that Jeffry Dahmer was your cousin.

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

Alright, I get it. I'm attractive. Ok. However, that does NOT mean I'm to be stared at and drooled over like a nice juicy porterhouse steak. Yeah, not cool. I'm not seasoned, and I don't come with a side of mashed potatoes and grilled asparagus.


Dammit, now you're making ME hungry! :p

Although I prefer the steak fries, and ixnay on the asparagus. It's gross and it makes my pee smell funny. :lol:

[Giggle Goose]

If all of the above fail, ask him if he saw you on Maury last winter, the episode where the audience tried to guess if the drag queens were men or women.


OK, hate to thread-jack here, but I LOVE those episodes. I swear some of those drag queens looked JUST like real women. I was shocked. But I always felt bad for the women who really were women even though the audience was screaming: "That's a dude, Maury, look at 'em, that's a dude!!!!!!" :roll:

[Spiffy McMoron]

I'm saving up money to get into mortician's school

That might explain why my little sister doesn't go on many dates. And no, that's not a joke.

thegiraffe, just come right out and say it:

-"I'm not interested."
-"No."
-"I feel like being a lesbian tonight."
-"You're storture rack not the last man on Earth."
-"I have to wash my hair." **Only use around REALLY BIG creeps--nice guys deserve a better blowoff than this. Hell, I'd prefer hearing the lesbian one instead of this one if I'm being rejected.**

Although, I'll be really honest--I'm usually too scared to approach women and compliement them. Not because I'm afraid of being regected, per se, but it's more of a "What if she thinks I'm wierd?!?" reason. No logic to that at all, I know. :o

But that's all acedemic, concidering I have a better half. :D

[iradney]

Hahaha, my boyfs sister, who is a Glamazon of note (6' tall, leggy, blonde and blue eyed with pouty lips) is forever getting hit on.
She just says "no" and walks off. If the guy still follows her, she turns around and yells "LEAVE ME ALONE YOU PERVERT! I DON'T WANT TO WATCH YOU HAVE SEX WITH YOUR DOG!" Generally the guy turns tail and whimpers off.

Of course, there was the one night a guy pinched her butt. She turned around and kicked him in the shins with her very very pointy shoes. She doesn't take shit, TTO's sister...

[blas]

I invested in body guards......my ex coworker, 6'6 300some pounds, grizzly looking. He scared off a lot of unwanted suitors.

And no one makes a better body guard than Big Teddy Bear Daddy. He especially loves warding off perverts his age. One time, some random sick f*ck asked my dad in the men's room at a restaurant if that "hot young thing" was his date. My dad said that he nearly choked the bastard and growled, "That's my daughter, you bastard!". The guy left quickly after that lol.

[Rapscallion]

Y'know, I'm rather glad I'm single. A female colleague was trying to persuade me that romance and approaching girls was a good idea. I may have to show her this thread so she can see how dangerous it is out there.

Rapscallion

[Fera Festiva]

You could get fat and scowl a lot. Worked for me...

Possibly too well, but you can't win 'em all, right? :D

[blas]

Only problem with scowling and eyerolling is that it can be mistaken for playing "hard to get". Some men are totally clueless. When a girl plays hard to get, she is genuinely interested, but she's not going to give it all up and be easy. She will look a man in the eye and she will honestly answer questions.

A girl who is genuinely disgusted and NOT interested will look away, will not make eye contact, will swear, will say "Go away!"...

It's about time guys got that one straight. Wouldn't a girl calling you a pervert and trying to walk away from you kind of give you the hint that she is not interested? Apparently not, considering the slime all of us ladies seem to attract.

By the way, to make this very clear, the above was not a manbashing rant. It is fair to assume that most decent, smart men understand the difference between hard to get and not interested. It's the twisted, dimented, sicko mofos that are the ones who follow and continue to persue despite warnings and previous rejections.

[iradney]

What Blas87 says is right. There are guys who try to pick you up nicely and, when rebuffed, take it graciously and in good humour. Then there are guys who think no=yes, and that we're just PANTING to be with them.
If someone doesn't leave me alone after the first polite "No, but thank you very much", then the claws come out.
Don't any guys here have any stories about chicks who just wouldn't take no for an answer?

[Jester]

Don't any guys here have any stories about chicks who just wouldn't take no for an answer?

None that I MINDED........ :lol:

A coworker of mine is a very, very attractive young lady. In other words, a total hottie.

One day she and another total hottie were hanging out in a bar with some other friends. For the sake of making this easier to follow, this is the relevant cast:

TH: Total Hottie.
OTH: the other Total Hottie
MCW: Male Co Worker who was hanging out with them
DD: Drunk Dude

So DD wanders up, walks between TH and OTH, and does a double take, looking from one to the other. Then basically plants himself near them to try to glom on to them.

Well, TH turns to him, and with a very straight face and in a very deep voice says, "Hi. I'm Steve. Are my balls showing in these pants?" DD was taken aback, but being a dummy, it took his brain a while to register all this. And while it was trying to register it, TH continued in the same vein, never breaking character.

Finally, DD turns to MCW and makes a comment along the lines of what the hell? To which MCW said, in his gayest gay voice, "Hi! I'm Roland. How are YOU?"

Drunk Dude FLED!

So remember ladies, if acting like a man won't work (and it usually will), having a male friend act flamingly gay and hitting on the asshole? Works really really well!


On another note, I would be remiss if I did not include this zinger. This was said by Geena Davis, in a very annoyed dismissive tone, in the movie "The Long Kiss Goodnight": "No thanks. I'm saving myself 'til I get raped." Other great lines by her in the same movie: "I let you touch me, cowboy. I think I need a bath." And of course the immortal: "Die screaming motherfucker." That last one should usually send the message to even the most obtuse that you flat out aren't interested. But of course, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time that I overestimated the collective intelligence of my male brethren.

[Talon]

LOL Jester that was a riot!

I think I've figured out the clueless shameless knuckedragging types. If a woman has no ring, she's "fair game". If she does, or has a b/f, she's a "challenge." But if she's got a kid, she's "damaged goods".

Not that I'd know anything about the above from personal experience... (hides). But ladies, carrying around a baby picture might keep the losers at bay.

[Spiffy McMoron]

Don't any guys here have any stories about chicks who just wouldn't take no for an answer?

No is an answer? :eek: Colour me shocked!

Seriously, though, that has never happened to me. There was one girl who thought that I liked her/wanted her, and she mentioned to my (current) girlfriend that I really wanted her, but she said no to my advances. Truth be told, I'd rather date a meat grinder than that girl.

Why can't I have a normal stalker like everyone else?!? :cry:

[ShortTemperHatesStupidity]

Mysty-
your powers of rejection are amazing. I've never seen anything like em.

[Plaidman]

I once, and only once, had a co-worker that was drop dead gorgerous, and everyone was hitting on her. I instanly assumed I ddin't have a shot and didn't even bother talking to her /like a piece of meat/.


That was my mistake cause then she started to like ME. Woman don't think I'm cute. I would have gone out with her, cause she was really really smart, nice and good with people.

Little too good I later learned.


And then I learned she was married.

Then I learned she wanted to bang my brains out.

So I got scared and ran cause I didn't want it.

[Kiwi]

I have perfected over the years a very good "im a bitch leave me alone" stare, even my own mother doesnt want to come near me when I wear that look on my face.

Its all in the tone you use, if I had been born 100 years ago I would have been labelled an old school marm, but then Ive never really been picked up all that often. I think alot of people (including my current bou) know not to screw around with me.

That goes for guys/girls/salespeople/anyone. If I want to be left alone then im left alone. Sometimes it works to well.... sigh

[TNT]

Quick: What movie am I describing?

Geeky guy nobody likes is smitten by a beautiful woman. She can't stand him and does everything she can to discourage him... she says "no," she makes an ass out of him, she makes sure that he sees her with a lot of different other guys and whatever.

The geeky isn't discouraged at all... he shows up in the oddest places, sends little lover letters, but cute presents and generally exhibits stalker-like behavior.

The woman suffers a few defeats at the hands of the guys in tight jeans she craves so much, and suddenly has an illumination... the geeky guy is the only one who truly cares about her.

A lifetime of love and happiness ensues.

Okay... what movie is it?

[Kiwi]

every teen movie ever made!!!!

sixteen candles most famously I guess though

not suprising then that the people who write/pay for the movies are the geeky guys!

[TNT]

every teen movie ever made!!!!



We have a winner already!

We would never go to these movies on our own... we go because the girls drag us to them. We notice they get all teary over this...

Then, back in real life, we think, that's the way to get women... and when we do it, they get all pissed off at us.

[Drakstern]

I once, and only once, had a co-worker that was drop dead gorgerous, and everyone was hitting on her. I instanly assumed I ddin't have a shot and didn't even bother talking to her /like a piece of meat/.

Oddly, I had that happen to me also, except all the stuff at the end about her being married...

I found out a month after she moved away and started dating a friend of mine that she *really* wanted me to ask her out. *REALLY* wanted me to.

I thought she was just being nice...

[Rapscallion]

That's something I should have added in the thread I started when I got curious about chat up lines.

Ladies - men do not take hints well. If you like someone, don't just pussyfoot around the issue. We're probably too interested in the next roast beef and onion sandwich/beer/football game - you know, the certaintites in life - to notice.

By the way, I notice this thread is concentrating on sleazy guys not taking 'no' for an answer. Anyone feel like defining 'sleazy' for me in terms that are not 'someone I don't find attractive'?

Rapscallion

[iradney]

Sleazy (in the world of iradney) - someone who doesn't know the meaning of the world "Personal space", has long, lingering conversations with my breasts, makes little sexual innuendos within an hour of meeting me, and just can't understand why I'm not pressing every molecule of my body up against him with my hand thrust meaningfully down his pants even tho he's bought me ONE WHOLE DRINK, and what on earth does that "No" word mean??

Thus endeth the definition

[kerrisan]

Tell them you're a lesbian. That'll either scare them away or turn them on. Hmm. If it turns them on then take Irv's advice.

[MCSledgehammer]

An addendum to channeling "crazy girlfriend", channel "biological clock". Observe the following:
Icky dude: So... how are YOU today?
You: I'm craving a baby...
ID: What?
You: I'm craving a baby. I LOVE babies, I want to have a bunch, at least a half dozen, preferably within the next year or so. I mean, diapers are easy, you get the hang of it real quick, and you TOTALLY get used to the smell! Man, babies are awesome. I totally want one as soon as possible. So, you want to go out with me, right? Yeah, I'll need to see your tax returns from last year so I know you can support me and Timmy and Veronica and Abigail and Johnny and Blake and Paul and Becky. Honestly, I'm really looking forward to the marriage thing, too- I can't wait to gain a whole bunch of weight and not have to diet anymore. Hey-Where are you going?
ID: *runs screaming into the distance*

[Cia]

Even if the guy is cuter than a bug's ear, an Adonis if you will, if he is constantly staring at the twins, doesn't acknowledge that you have a head attached above the twins and starts up the sexual innuendoes he is still a smarmy creep.

Looks be damned, it's the actions that speak louder than words.

[Jester]

Looks be damned, it's the actions that speak louder than words.

I'm afraid I must call Shenanigans on that statement.

Because I can't count the number of times I have heard women, both intelligent and otherwise, deal with a complete cowpie of a dude, whether they were dating them or meeting them for the first time, and put up with all kinds of ridiculousness, and justify it all with....."But he's SO cute!"

Looks be damned? Not bloody likely. Does it happen? Yes. Often? No. And y'all know I am right. :wave:

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

I'll second the "crazy girlfriend" idea. If the average guy is anything like myself, he gets freaked out when a girl starts to get controlling.

One of my exes did that. Always wanted wanted to know where I was, and what I was doing, and if I mentioned another girl in a conversation she'd immediately think I was cheating on her.

So I broke it off with her, but she still couldn't let go. I was at a party by one night, and my ex spent just about the entire time outside the house we were having the party in, demanding to be let in or at least talk to me. I ended up spending the night just so I wouldn't have to deal with her.

[blas]

I would just like to debunk an above statement that girls put up with dumb cute guys.

I just recently dealt with that. I was kind of seeing this guy, tall blonde and muscular, but he is (honestly, as in, medically diagnosed) ADHD and dumber than a box of rocks. I am not joking. Plus, he kept calling me Kayla, and we all know that is NOT my real name.

I tried to tolerate his stupidity and lack of common sense and wandering mind and inability to keep a conversation going, but I couldn't handle it. He called me over 20 times in one day, a few times just to tell me that he'd found a buffallo nickel in the bathroom and another time to tell me that he'd crashed his ATV into a tree. Like I really gave two hoots about either one.

I'm now laid off from work, but I was still working full time a couple of weeks ago. Because I choose to, oh, I don't know, get a full day's SLEEP during the week, because I didn't want to drive 10 miles to see him, to him it meant that I didn't like him, and he incessantly bugged me "Why don't you like me?!" It got old very fast.

His good looks and deep voice didn't mean squat when I realized that there was no way I was going to ever be able to keep his attention on one topic for more than 5 seconds at a time, and that he has the IQ of a pair of Old Navy flip flops.

*The above was not a bash against people with ADD or ADHD. It's fair to assume that most people take their meds. He refuses, and this is the result of not taking them. I realize ADD and ADHD are serious problems, and I did NOT mean to come across as if I were poking fun at them*

[kibbles]

I tried to tolerate his stupidity and lack of common sense and wandering mind and inability to keep a conversation going, but I couldn't handle it.

But would you have made attempts to tolerate him if not for his looks? That's the real question. ;) :D

[blas]

You do have a point kibbles, but all I was trying to get across was that I wouldn't get into an exclusive long term relationship (or hell, even a month long one lol) with a guy like that.

So yes, I am guilty of trying to deal with a stupid cute guy........but I definetly would not stay with someone who irritated me that much, no matter how cute. There is a point in time where enough is enough.

I annoyed many a boyfriend when I used to be really insecure. I was the obsessive, crazy girlfriend, like the girl IPF was talking about. I used to be flat out nuts. No guy EVER tolerated that very long. My beauty didn't mean squat.....I was annoying and kicked to the curb, no questions asked. I learned from that, and have since changed my ways.

[Spiffy McMoron]

So yes, I am guilty of trying to deal with a stupid cute guy.

I don't mean to pick on you, blas, but this part of your post reminded me of a joke I heard:

"All women say that they want a guy who can make them laugh. But what they forget to mention that the better looking you are, the funnier your jokes are."

[iradney]

I dunno so much, I used to tolerate cute guys that were less than civil when I was younger (ie High School), but after a while you grow up and realise that looks arent everything. The thought dawned upon me after I'd been dating a rather hunky bodybuilder for 2 weeks, and realised that we actually had nothing in common except for mutual lust. Snogging does not a relationship make, unfortunately :/
So yeah, no matter how "hot" the dude is, if he doesn't treat me like an actual person, he instantly becomes Quasimodo's uglier brother.

[thegiraffe]

Am I the only one who thinks 'snogging' is quite possibly one of the funniest words out there?

Maybe because I'm American and not a Brit, but still.....I think it's hilarious.

/ot

[blas]

Is "snogging" the British equal of the American verb "goosing"???

I too find that word hilarious.

I've actually noticed the funniest guys tend to be.......well.......the men from Seinfeld, lol. Either short bald and fat, or tall lanky and ODD, or obsessed with tucking their shirt in and eating cereal.

[iradney]

*giggle* snogging is just another word for kissing/making out.
and yes, I think it's hilarious, that's why I use it all the time :D

[MCSledgehammer]

I'll ask you boys this, then: When was the last time you approached a girl at a bar (or coffee shop or whatever) based solely on the strength of her character, hm? And does the phrase "trophy wife" mean anything to you? By putting up with stupid cute guys (or "himbos"), we're merely enjoying the superficial, short-term relationships men have enjoyed for years... /rant on gender dynamics :)

[Ryu]

i dont approach girls that i meet randomly
im only interested in girls i know who have great character/personality that ive gotten to know some
i know im an exception but just throwing it out there

[Hobgoblin]

I'll ask you boys this, then: When was the last time you approached a girl at a bar (or coffee shop or whatever) based solely on the strength of her character, hm?

Of course we don't do that. But then, no one expects us to in a bar. I've approached random girls at church before, who I didn't think were the most amazing girls I've ever seen. For some reason, it's easier to talk to girls at church than it is in a bar.

Cheaper too. Alcohol gets expensive.

I also have approached girls in bars. I haven't for a while (what with the relationship I'm in and all). But I hardly ever hit on a girl that is smoking hot. What's the point? When all the guys in a place hit on a girl, she most likely isn't going to give someone like me the time of day. I'm average looking, so no dice on my getting anything for my trouble (like conversation). And since that attitude isn't attractive in the slightest, I'll go talk to some other female who doesn't seem like such a bitch.

So perhaps I'm approaching girls based on looks, but if she at all irritates me or is stuck up, I'm out, no matter how hot she is.

[Cia]

Jester, I know most people probably would put up with a cute jerk(ette) just because the person is cute. But not me. I don't like it when a guy stares at my chest and wont look me in the face. Now if I was staring at his built in kickstand okay then but otherwise no. I guess that I'm just odd in that way.

[ArenaBoy]

I saw a t-shirt today that reminded me of this thread: It read That was last night, now go away!!!

[Jester]

I'll ask you boys this, then: When was the last time you approached a girl at a bar (or coffee shop or whatever) based solely on the strength of her character, hm? And does the phrase "trophy wife" mean anything to you? By putting up with stupid cute guys (or "himbos"), we're merely enjoying the superficial, short-term relationships men have enjoyed for years... /rant on gender dynamics :)

No argument with that, but remember, I was not commenting on women approaching guys based on looks, but on them putting up with jerks in relationships because "they're cute!" Big difference. And while I'll be the first to tell you I have approached girls at bars (and other places) because they were hot, I will also tell you that I have approached girls at bars (and other places) because of something they did or said that was interesting, quirky, or different.

Also, my comments can be applied across the gender board, as there are certainly men who put up with idiocy from women just because the women are "hot." No question there.

But I hardly ever hit on a girl that is smoking hot. What's the point? When all the guys in a place hit on a girl, she most likely isn't going to give someone like me the time of day. I'm average looking, so no dice on my getting anything for my trouble (like conversation). And since that attitude isn't attractive in the slightest, I'll go talk to some other female who doesn't seem like such a bitch.

You are assuming that because a girl is hot (a) you won't have a chance, (b) she won't talk to you or give you the time of day, and (c) she's a bitch. This is not always true. There are many girls who are both hot and nice, there are many girls who like guys who are willing to talk to them and will certainly talk to guys willing to make an effort, and to be honest, there are a lot of girls I have known or known of who were hot and no guys would talk to them from intimidation, and the girls were bummed by that....so of course the guys who WOULD talk to them had an excellent shot.

I'm average looking, so no dice on my getting anything for my trouble (like conversation).

I am not exactly Brad Pitt or Matt Damon, but I figured out way back in high school that that doesn't always matter. Will there be girls that ignore me because I am not Brad Pitt or Matt Damon? Sure. They aren't worth the effort. At all. But there are hot girls that will certainly talk to me, and beyond, despite that. For many reasons. I figured out way back in high school that there is no such thing as "out of my league." I have dated some pretty hot smokin' babes which, if you look at me, would seem to make no sense. But they dated me because they didn't base everything on looks, AND because I took that first step.

So perhaps I'm approaching girls based on looks, but if she at all irritates me or is stuck up, I'm out, no matter how hot she is.

No question here that personality does matter. There are girls that are blazin' hot...until they open their mouths and ruin it by speaking and revealing their ugly or non-existent personality. Their attractiveness instantly plummets.

There are also girls that are average-looking or good looking or whatever, but once you get to know them, become smoking hot because they are such sweethearts. Personality matters.

Now, my initial comments were just that girls (and people in general, it follows) will put up with assholes just because they look good. I never said looks were completely unimportant. I will be the first person to say I like to look at beautiful women. I will also be the first person to tell you that I AM superficical enough to want someone I am involved with to be good-looking. But if ALL they have is physical attractiveness, then they really aren't all that attractive at all. But if you can get both, bonus, right? For example, Reformed Waitress is an intelligent, sweet, all-around great girl. And I am with her for that reason. But the fact that she happens to be a knockout is icing on the cupcake. :D

[Ryu]

No question here that personality does matter. There are girls that are blazin' hot...until they open their mouths and ruin it by speaking and revealing their ugly or non-existent personality. Their attractiveness instantly plummets.

There are also girls that are average-looking or good looking or whatever, but once you get to know them, become smoking hot because they are such sweethearts. Personality matters.


That is so true, I thought I was one of the only people who felt that way!

[draftermatt]

To go even further on what Jester said, no matter how good he/she looks someone, somewhere is tired of their crap.

I can't stand ditzy girls, which is why Jessica Simpson does nothing for me. Is she hot? Sure, but I'd end up stabbing myself in the eye with a pencil.

[blas]

Jester, there's nothing wrong with wanting someone who is attractive. We all do. People can deny it all they want, but it's true.

I have to admit that I'm a bit shallow. I don't want a short guy, an overweight guy, or a guy that looks like a bum or a gangster. That's my own opinion and I don't give a shit what anyone thinks.

[ArenaBoy]

Jester you are right by all accounts. My friend has a saying that condenses what you said and I still live by this saying to this day: My friend C: Looks are a plus, but it's personality that really matters.