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  • The Price of Stupidity

    This guy wasn't especially sucky, and I admit to some suck on my own part here, but I haven't had anyone else noteworthy in a couple weeks, so here we go.

    I was in an employees only area when this guy stuck his head in and asked for help. He had fairly dark sunglasses on. That's not really relevant, but I found it annoying and somewhat rude, since I can't make proper eye contact with him while he had them on.

    Anyway, he wanted to know if we would service a laptop he'd purchased here. I told him we would, and asked what the problem was.

    SC: Well, I let my son use it.....

    (oh boy, here it comes....)

    SC: and he dropped it on the floor.

    Me: OK, sir, when you purchased the laptop, did you buy our accidental damage coverage?

    SC: No, I didn't buy a warranty.

    Me (thinking):

    Me: Ok, then is the screen damaged in any way?

    SC: No, the screen works, but the power jack is broken.

    Me: Ok, well we can have that fixed for you, but it will be on the pricey side. *pulls out tech services pamphlet and flips to the Non-Warranty Repair section* All notebook hardware repairs are a flat charge of $369.99.

    SC *snarkily*: OK, that's nearly the cost of a new one!

    (Here's where I showed some suck, as I was very blunt with him)

    Me: Well sir, that's why we offer accidental damage coverage, and why you should have gotten it. If you had it, this repair would have been free.

    SC: But it was too much money for that coverage!

    Me: Unless your laptop was more than $1000, then the cost of the coverage would have been less than the cost of this repair.

    SC: Why is it so much?!?! All they need to do is resolder the jack!

    Me: No sir, it's not that simple. They'll likely have to replace the entire board.

    SC *snarkily*: No, they can resolder it!

    (If you're so convinced it's that easy, then why didn't you just fix it yourself?)

    Me: Sir, even if they could do that, they'd still need to tear down the entire laptop to get at the jack, then put it all back together when it's fixed. That will require a significant amount of labor. But as I said, it isn't that easy, as they will have to replace the entire board that the jack is on. And the cost of the repair in either case will be $370.

    SC: You know what? Never mind. I'll think of something else *leaves*

    Yeah, sure you will. Assuming Geek Squad or FireDog even offers out-of-warranty laptop repairs (they don't list them on their websites) they will likely charge even more, since pretty much ALL of their services are more expensive than ours.

    So unless you want a new computer, you'll be back. And it WILL be $369.99.
    "We guard the souls in heaven; we don't horse-trade them!" Samandrial in Supernatural

    RIP Plaidman.

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    Why do you think you were sucky?

    The customer didn't pony up for the accidental damage coverage, so he's SOL. No suck in letting him know that.

    Bet he was one of those who came in thinking the accidental damage coverage was a total scam and cut off the salesperson's spiel with a firm "NO!"

    Actually, this is the satisfaction you rarely get when you're forced to sell extended warranties--the customer returning with a busted item either with their tail between their legs or turning all screamy while you sit back and tell them they're screwed.
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    • #3
      Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
      Why do you think you were sucky?
      Because I was blunter than normal. And usually I don't do so that quickly either. Only slight suck.
      Last edited by Dave1982; 09-22-2008, 08:19 PM.
      "We guard the souls in heaven; we don't horse-trade them!" Samandrial in Supernatural

      RIP Plaidman.

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      • #4
        either way, $5.00 extended warrenty on a $40.00 nintendo DS disk. Worthless.

        I swear the things are solid state flash drives, anything less than intential destruction which usualy voids the extended warrenty wont faze them....

        A $50.00 to $100.00 extended warrenty on a $500.00 to $1000.00 laptop that you dont know how to fix yourself... Well worth it. That said i still wont buy it. gives me great excuses to either upgrade or keep my computer repair skills from getting rusty

        snarkyer than normal i dont concider you sucky in any way. Having worked with computers it doubtfull if the SC's responce would have changed much no matter how nice and sickly sweet your responce was

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        • #5
          My laptop was only 10 bucks more than that repair.
          Supporting the idiots charged with protecting your personal information.

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          • #6
            I pay 8 dollars a month for insurance on my phone... But that insurance just enabled me to get a new, muuuuuuuch better phone when mine went kaplowy. Yayyyyyy Centro! So worth it!

            Not all waranties are though... *cough* Sears *cough*
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            • #7
              Not to threadjack or anything - and, given that he was an SC, it probably isn't the same - but I wear very dark glasses anytime I'm outside. Even the ones I have for extended indoor use (say, at work) meet most people's definition of sunglasses. The ones I wear outside are darker still.

              So, though it's unlikely, those sunglasses may have been necessary.
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              • #8
                I need to wear dark lenses as well, I don't consider my current lenses very dark, but they are as dark as the optometrist would prescribe for me, and I get lots of comments every day asking why I'm wearing such dark glasses.


                Back to the thread, one of my coworkers will resolder the power connection for notebooks. However, it is only a matter of time before the connection will break again, and it is a minimum four hour job, at $65/hour. The techs might lower that at their discretion for some customers or if it's a very easy laptop to get into.

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                • #9
                  Both of you

                  I consider both of you as wrong.

                  Customer thinks the port/plug just needs to be soldered - Sorry bud, the plastic housing of the jack is almost certainly cracked. A quick resolder job will not fix that problem.

                  As for replacing the entire circuit board, you probably just need a new power port and these are rarely surface-mounted so I see no reason why you can't just order the part unless it is a very old model or your company is not a direct dealer with the manufacturer.

                  Please note, to replace the $5-10.00 part still requires you to take apart the entire laptop base and with reassembly you are looking at one hour min. The store I presently work at charges $125.00 for that hour.

                  PS. Just realize one good reason to replace the PCB. There can be hairline cracks causing future failures that will have the same customer coming back within a week acting like it is the end of the world.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth earl colby pottinger View Post
                    As for replacing the entire circuit board, you probably just need a new power port and these are rarely surface-mounted so I see no reason why you can't just order the part unless it is a very old model or your company is not a direct dealer with the manufacturer.
                    We are not equipped to do much in the way of physical notebook repairs in the store. On some models we can replace the hard drive, optical drive, or keyboard, but that's about it. Everything else has to be sent out to a central depot, and ALL those repairs have a flat rate charge, be it a power port or a dead motherboard. THe exception is screen repairs. Those are MORE expensive ($599.99 vs $369.99).

                    As for me saying they had to replace the whole board, that was just a guess. He didn't have the laptop with him so I have no idea what model it was, but I have seen cases where there's a separate power board that would need to be replaced if the jack broke.
                    "We guard the souls in heaven; we don't horse-trade them!" Samandrial in Supernatural

                    RIP Plaidman.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Dave1982 View Post
                      SC *snarkily*: No, they can resolder it!

                      (If you're so convinced it's that easy, then why didn't you just fix it yourself?)
                      Exactly what I was thinking. Also, don't give expensive, delicate electronics to your (more than likely) small child. They're not capable of fully appreciating the situation.
                      Excuse me, good sir paladin, can you direct me to your EVIL district?

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                      • #12
                        I'm with Earl... If I was the shop, I wouldn't touch that problem on a customer computer. The risk that the board (or something else) is going to go flakey is just too high, and that means that after blowing an hour of labor on a new jack, the customer will just be back, and wanting a new sysplanar for free. Even if you warn them ahead of time that you cannot warranty the repair.

                        At my company, all repairs for impact and liquid damage are explicitly not warranted.

                        It is certainly a problem I would not hesitate to handle myself, but just not something I would feel comfortable accepting as a repair order.

                        SirWired

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                        • #13
                          hehe sounds kinda similar to what happened to my laptop. I got a $500 laptop from the store I work at, so it was $450 with my discount, then I tried to downgrade from windows vista to windows XP, because Vista was being a PITA, but it didn't work, so I got pissed off and punched it 3 times and shattered the motherboard. I took it to a computer shop and they opened it up and pieces fell out

                          of course, I now have a $450 paperweight, and a worthless $200 operating system, but at least I'm accepting the fact that it was my own fault, I'll probably just buy another one(a better one) and have some extra RAM cards and hard drive I can still use. I'd also just replaced a RAM card when I broke it

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                          • #14
                            A Little White Truth

                            Were any truer words ever spoken?

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                            • #15
                              Quoth nomorecarts View Post
                              hehe sounds kinda similar to what happened to my laptop. I got a $500 laptop from the store I work at, so it was $450 with my discount, then I tried to downgrade from windows vista to windows XP, because Vista was being a PITA, but it didn't work, so I got pissed off and punched it 3 times and shattered the motherboard. I took it to a computer shop and they opened it up and pieces fell out
                              Sounds similar to what I did to one of the laptops at work It was originally my boss' daughter's computer...and she dropped it. Didn't really mess it up badly, but the screen (not covered under warranty) was shattered. At the time, a new screen was about $700 more than the computer was worth. Boss insisted I call up the manufacturer, and try to get a new screen. Er, did I mention that it wasn't covered under warranty? Didn't stop him from buying his daughter *another* laptop that was also later dropped...but that's another rant

                              About the same time, we had a machine fail. Boss wouldn't let me toss it since the "guts" still worked. Er, actually, the touchpad was screwed up, some of the keys didn't work, etc. Did I mention the screen was cracked? Boss then noticed that you could attach a regular (CRT-style) monitor plus wireless keyboard and mouse.

                              Yes, he had me do what you think he did. Like Mr. T, I pitied the fool who got stuck using that piece of crap. Eventually, it was put into "less important" duty--it was connected to our fax machine. I ran it that way for a few years...until it started having issues. I lost my temper one afternoon, and actually *punched* the cracked screen a few times meaning it was totally cracked and black now. Not long after, I "retired" it and "made it disappear." Meaning, it's sitting in my garage, and about to meet its fate with the fence maul
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