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Old 01-15-2014, 09:49 AM
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Fratching - and the 'take that to Fratching' policy - is part of what helps this site stay so friendly.

People who enjoy contentious debates can go and participate. Sometimes we teach each other things, sometimes some of us change our minds - usually on being presented with new knowledge, or a new point of view.
Often we agree to disagree; but with a new respect for the opposing POV.

But many, many people come to CS to laugh - often wryly - at the silly ways the human race behaves. These people are not interested in debates about, say, whether the tipping system or the 'service compris' system is better. So we moved all of those debates to the sister site.

And heck, some of us - like me - can spend a few years being active in Fratching, then go off it almost entirely, then go back ....

The guideline I use in Fratching (this is not an official rule, but it helps) is 'argue the debate, not the person'. In other words, I can tell Jester that his argument and position are total crap; but I cannot and will not tell him that HE is crap. (Besides, he's a great guy. Even if some of his ideas and worldviews conflict with mine.)
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