A pack of dogs attack, and kill, our friend's livestock

[draggar]

http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_232165759.html

This is really sad, and one more of her sheep has died (as of last night). A pack of 5 rottwielers (or rottie - mix) attacked her livestock the other night. The owner, while acting apologetic in the video did say (and he mumbles it, you'll need to listen to it a few times),

"I'm going to hold up proceedings as long as possible"

His dogs HAVE gotten out before but didn't attack anyone, so he KNEW they could get out, just didn't do anything and I think his plans to build a cover is bull. If he loves his dogs so much, HOW COME THE THREE THAT WERE CAUGHT ARE STILL AT THE SHELTER even though he can go get them if he pays a fine.

This guy should be held responsible for all costs that our friend is enduring from this attack.

[i4wolves]

Poor Sheep and Donkey.

I work at a Petstore and I swear there is a lot of people who should not own animals. Similary because they will not take responsibility for thier animals. It makes me angry that the owner of the dogs can say how he is going to hold up proceedings as long as possible. His dogs got out and killed two animals and mulled (sp) the rest of the animals. I can only imagine what would have happened if their were any children near by. People should relay be more responsible for their animals. I don't know if putting the dogs done is the right thing, but I do think that that owner should never get acess to his dogs again and hopefully the dogs can be helped, if they can't be trusted again then they should be put down.

[draggar]

I know some people are going to flame me for this, but I think they should be put down. From the brutality of the attack *and* how little control the owner has over his dogs it is pretty clear that these dogs may not be rehabilitatable, these dogs have a good chance of being a danger to someone else if they put them in a shelter. It may not be the right thing, but it is the safest thing. A shelter that adopts them out could get sued if the dog bit someone and it will put a strain on the shelter's already (very) thin resources. Rottie rescue won't pick them up because of the attack, either and the owner has proven himself to be irresponsible, especially since they HAVE gotten out before (he's lying on tape).

[blas]

Was he one of those people who purposely raises "badass dogs" to be aggressive like that?

I hate people like that.

I'm sure Rotweillers and Pitbulls would not have such bad reps if the people who owned them did not raise them to be such mean, aggressive attack dogs. All of my stupid friends/acquaintances who own those types of dogs brag about how "badass" their dogs are. Wait until they rip a child's face off and your dog gets put down.......

Yes, this is coming from an ASPCA member......

[draggar]

The owner has been hit with over $11,000 in fines, and the owner of the livestock hasn't even started anything yet (she's too busy tending to the surviving livestock).

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,6474594.story

[RecoveringKinkoid]

I really don't know how or why anyone would want to keep a pack of aggressive dogs. In this country, people are lawsuit happy. That alone ought to quash that mentality, but it doesn't seem to. People have been killed by aggressive dogs, children AND adults. Dogs have been put down and owners have gone to prison. I am thinking people who keep dogs like this are just unbelieveably stupid people.

I used to have a high strung Eskie that was a rescue. He snapped when nervous. He was not even big enough to really hurt a person (although he could and had broken skin) but even so, he was not allowed to roam and not even allowed around children. He weighed 30 pounds and looked like a plush toy and I was very guarded with him as far as protecting others from being nipped by him. So I cannot even imagine keeping an aggressive pit bull or rotweiler like that. I just would not want to be responsible if other animals or God forbid a person was harmed.

People are idiots!

[LionMan]

This happened here last year (seriously, both sides involved were neighbors). One person's dogs (3 I think) got out and killed 9 alpacas. All the dogs were put down immediately. The only reason there probably won't be any litigation is the dog owners have no money.

In case you wondered, each of the alpacas were sold just before this for roughly $35,000 each .

[AFpheonix]

I know some people are going to flame me for this, but I think they should be put down. From the brutality of the attack *and* how little control the owner has over his dogs it is pretty clear that these dogs may not be rehabilitatable, these dogs have a good chance of being a danger to someone else if they put them in a shelter. It may not be the right thing, but it is the safest thing. A shelter that adopts them out could get sued if the dog bit someone and it will put a strain on the shelter's already (very) thin resources. Rottie rescue won't pick them up because of the attack, either and the owner has proven himself to be irresponsible, especially since they HAVE gotten out before (he's lying on tape).

Since they're livestock killers now, they most certainly will be put down. At least, that's how it typically works over here.

[Banrion]

I wish people would stop blaming the dogs though. It is in a dog's nature to hunt. ESPECIALLY when it is put into a large pack. It is up to the owners to train and discipline their dogs.

[draggar]

I wish people would stop blaming the dogs though. It is in a dog's nature to hunt. ESPECIALLY when it is put into a large pack. It is up to the owners to train and discipline their dogs.

I am not blaming the dogs and the local media is harping on the owner of the dogs.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

I just re-read not only the thread but the news article. Nobody's blaming the dogs.

[Banrion]

I can't get to the article from work, but all I was seeing in this thread was

Since they're livestock killers now, they most certainly will be put down

All the dogs were put down immediately.

I know some people are going to flame me for this, but I think they should be put down.

There is absolutely no reason to put these dogs down. Take them away from those owners, let them live with someone who is willing to train them, and let the dogs live their life. There is no truth to the fact that once a dog tastes blood, they will always attack again. The problem is with the PEOPLE, not the dogs! We don't euthanize people who kill people, and they are probably more deserving of it.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

We don't euthanize people who kill people, and they are probably more deserving of it.

Well, actually, in many cases, we do.

Way I see it, it's not really about blame, or punishment, or anything like that. It's more about safety and liability. Of course the dogs are not to blame. They are dogs. But this situation has proven itself dangerous. Large dogs capable of killing in the hands of an idiot. Not a good combo. Not much we can do to remove the risk other than killing the dogs. I know they can be kept by a more responsible person, but then you get into the mess of finding someone who is willing to put themselves at risk of lawsuit or worse to take them, risking their escape (which is always a possibility), risking their doing it again to livestock or humans.

You get into a huge can of worms. It's sad, but it's the way it is.

[AFpheonix]

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Sorry, although the dogs are cute, they managed to kill something that was worth money to someone, perhaps even part of someone's livelihood. They don't get to be alive anymore.
I like animals as much as the next person, heck, I OWN a lot of them. But if a neighbor's dog got in with my weanlings and took one down and killed it, I would be wanting that sucker dead, too.
It's one thing if they got in with the sheep and donkey and chased them like dumb puppies do sometimes, maybe giving one a heart attack, but it doesn't sound like that is what went down. Those dogs actively hunted those sheep and killed them. Who's to say that those dogs won't try to hunt down a toddler and kill it, too? There's too many dogs out there to let ones who have proven to be dangerous to stay alive.

[Banrion]

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Sorry, although the dogs are cute, they managed to kill something that was worth money to someone, perhaps even part of someone's livelihood. They don't get to be alive anymore.
I like animals as much as the next person, heck, I OWN a lot of them. But if a neighbor's dog got in with my weanlings and took one down and killed it, I would be wanting that sucker dead, too.
It's one thing if they got in with the sheep and donkey and chased them like dumb puppies do sometimes, maybe giving one a heart attack, but it doesn't sound like that is what went down. Those dogs actively hunted those sheep and killed them. Who's to say that those dogs won't try to hunt down a toddler and kill it, too? There's too many dogs out there to let ones who have proven to be dangerous to stay alive.

I feel the same way about people. You are far more likely to rehabilitate a dog than a rapist or a murderer, but we let them live.