McDonald's Employee Shot at Work; Insurance Company Refuses to Pay Costs

[Kyree]

McDonald's just earned brownie points in my eyes with that. That's very cool of the owner to do that. Shows he actually DOES care for his employees. Though, like others have said, most people won't look at that part and still be thinking *OMFG MCDONALDS IS EVIL NEVER EAT THERE*

[Ree]

I changed the title of this thread to reflect the true story.

[InSearchOfSunset]

I wonder what would be happening if he worked for a corporate store instead of a franchise owner.. McDonald"s probably wouldn't offer to cover any of it..I sure remember signing a "no hero" policy...

[SG15Z]

Well I for one loved the statement from the owner. He has my . I'm still not eating at McDs, but for much different reasons.

[AdminAssistant]

When I was the admin for a retail store (re: prepares deposits, among other things) I had to take our deposits to the bank myself. I would pull my car up to the door, and the manager would walk the unmarked bag out with a different employee, we'd go to the bank, and we'd both walk the bag back, sometimes empty, sometimes with change. I had strict instructions that if anyone approached wanting the bag to hand it over. Same with the safe. If someone grabbed me and drug me to my office, I had to give them whatever they wanted. Luckily I never had that situation happen.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

The franchise owner even wants to pay for his medical expenses. And (am I reading this right?) McDonald's seems to agree that the insurance company should pay.

I would love to know who their insurace provider is. There's a whole lotta suck going on in this story.

[RetailWorkhorse]

I don't know what this Nigel fellow looks like (I didn't read the article) but my poor brain has substituted Nigel Townsend.

That MickyD's owner is so nice to be willing to pay for everything! It makes me cry! Make me stop crying, dammit!

...okay, no more Italian creme cake at midnight.

[MystyGlyttyr]

See, up here at the paper, since there's like, no money in the newsroom, if someone's here starting some shit, we have to assume that they're out to hurt someone. So I have marching orders to take out volatile intruders as swiftly as possible. I rather like my marching orders.

So far as this poor guy, I wish there was a fund or something one could contribute to. Right or wrong, I'd have probably done the same thing and ended up the same way, and I'd like to think I wouldn't be punished for trying to do the right (even if it's not the smart) thing.

[Salted Grump]

Interestingly, back at the hardware/liquor store I worked at, the policy towards an assault or an attempted robbery was to call a specific code, which boiled down to 'Grab the loaded shotguns that are under the tills'

Only one attempted assault in my time there, and three shotguns all being cocked at once stopped that almost instantly.

[Kiwi]

I wish there was a fund or something one could contribute to

To help Nigel Haskett, contributions can be sent to the Nigel Haskett Appreciation Fund, Twin City Bank, P.O. Box 16270, Little Rock, AR 72231.

[MystyGlyttyr]

Wait a tic...I breezed the article so I didn't notice it was in Little Rock, but now...holy crap, I used to work at that McDonalds. *blink*

And I DEFINITELY know Ray, he used to be my manager. He was like the most awesome guy I ever worked for before I came here to the paper. He was the guy who hired me after I got fired rather brutally from the candy store, and when I quit after three weeks to move back home (while still kinda emotionally traumatized from the whole experience), he hugged me and told me "You have a job here anytime you need one."

...well, I have to go have a good long cry now. I knew he was an awesome guy and this is way further proof.

[Mr Slugger]

Interestingly, back at the hardware/liquor store I worked at, the policy towards an assault or an attempted robbery was to call a specific code, which boiled down to 'Grab the loaded shotguns that are under the tills'

Only one attempted assault in my time there, and three shotguns all being cocked at once stopped that almost instantly.

Two things. First off there was a store I used to know in Boston that the register area was placed in the corner with only one way to come at it. For one very good reason. The owner had a gun mounted under the counter. If someone tried a guy tried to rob the place his two best friends would be taking off in different directions (if you get my drift)

The other story is a couple of months ago I think in worcester there was a liquor store that got robbed one of the robbers put a gun to the brother of the owners head. The owner saw everything on video came out and blew away one them away with a shotgun.

Honestly I don't like the idea of always fighting back, because I wouldn't want any of my employee's trying, but it's good to hear now and then of someone fighting back because it kinda tells robber "ya never know when someone will stand up."

[Hyndis]

Honestly I don't like the idea of always fighting back, because I wouldn't want any of my employee's trying, but it's good to hear now and then of someone fighting back because it kinda tells robber "ya never know when someone will stand up."

Fighting back generally only works if you're trained for it. A robber always has the advantage simply due to state of mind. If you, as the person being robbed, are unprepared for it, then you're pretty much screwed if you try to fight back.

But if you do have training, both in firearms and in simply having the right state of mind, you have the advantage. While the thief does have the drop on you, he generally does not have much aptitude with firearms, them being mostly a threat rather than something to be used.

However trying to be the hero is usually a bad thing, unless you're something like a retired and experienced marine or somesuch. Very few people are adequately prepared to successfully fight back against a robbery without it being a crapshoot.

[Miyon]

I worked as a Worker's comp adjuster for a large company. If a situation like this had happened it would be given to the head manager and VP to be the adjusters on this case. No low lvl adjuster would be allowed to touch it.
And then at that point the VP and Manager would work with the company to decide on coverage.
If (and from all the claims I saw, it would have been covered because the empolyee was on the clock and could not have forseen being shot by removing an abusive person from the building)
IF it was denied, the company we covered had an Ultimate Vote. If the company felt it should be covered, like the fact that the Owner of Mc'D's does, then we would reverse the denied claim.

It seems to me the insuranc is just using a 'loophole' excuse not to spend money. "be a hero on your own time"
If that employee had done nothing and the girlfriend was seriously hurt, she could have sued mc'd's for not trying to help.
It seems like a lose/lose which is sad because that employee prossibly saved her life and is so very lucky to still be alive himself.

[One-Fang]

Given the prevalance of the "don't be a hero" advice, could she have sued if they'd failed to help? It's not the McD's staff's job to be protecting her from someone abusing her. If they'd phoned 911 but done nothing else, could there be any suit there? (Assuming they had at least phoned 911).