Donation of kidney = unbecoming conduct says employeer!?!

[LillFilly]

This makes no friggan sense!!!!

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...job%2F19519127

This guy's a hero; it's just sad!

[draggar]

Maybe someone in the education system can better explain what relevance the town he lives in has to his job?

[Exaspera]

I was wondering the same thing. It's not like he's late everyday, I assume.

[Plaidman]

No way he is late. Evanston is only ten miles away from Chicago.

[draggar]

No way he is late. Evanston is only ten miles away from Chicago.

That shouldn't matter - he can live 3 hours away and as long as he is on time and does his job as well as they expect him to.

[Dips]

Some, not all, cities and towns require public employees to live within the borders of the city or town. It looks like he was hoping for an exception to the residency rules due to his oustanding public service but didn't get one. So he's moving into town to meet the residency requirements to keep his job. Understandably, he isn't happy about it.

Whether cities and towns should or shouldn't have such rules is a discussion that belongs on fratching. Let's not take this thread there, please.

[Plaidman]

That shouldn't matter - he can live 3 hours away and as long as he is on time and does his job as well as they expect him to.

True, but I'd be at least somewhat more understanding on why they want him closer if he lived that far.

But ten miles is...

What, 15 minutes?

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

True, but I'd be at least somewhat more understanding on why they want him closer if he lived that far.

But ten miles is...

What, 15 minutes?

In Chicago traffic? Are you kidding?

[LillFilly]

Ahhh; that might make sense about the living where you work thing; they have that for police chief positions where I am. It just seemed so... not related to the article. It reminded me of a new chief here who was allowed to remain where he lives while working in the next town over because he is within 1/2 a mile to the border of the town he's working in! That would be a lot of expense to move a mile!

[Aethian]

One of our deputies almost lost his job because the county lines moved, like it was his fault the lines changed and his address didn't.

[ArcticChicken]

His donating a kidney has absolutely nothing to do with school officials wanting him to move. The two are entirely unrelated!

[Exaspera]

The mayor of Juarez, Mexico lives in El Paso. Too dangerous to live in Juarez.

[BookstoreEscapee]

His donating a kidney has absolutely nothing to do with school officials wanting him to move. The two are entirely unrelated!

You noticed that, too, huh? I don't get how donating a kidney is "conduct unbecoming" and I don't get how either of those things is related to where he lives and any rules on address requirements for employees. Or is the fact that he lives outside the city the "unbecoming" part...

[Racket_Man]

In Chicago traffic? Are you kidding?

maybe by the "L" but by vehicle not much of a chance unless the school is right accross the city boarder. hell it can take 20 minutes to move a block in a car

Some, not all, cities and towns require public employees to live within the borders of the city or town. It looks like he was hoping for an exception to the residency rules due to his oustanding public service but didn't get one. So he's moving into town to meet the residency requirements to keep his job. Understandably, he isn't happy about it.

Whether cities and towns should or shouldn't have such rules is a discussion that belongs on fratching. Let's not take this thread there, please.

Chicago has a STRICT policy that ALL city/public employees MUST have a legal residence within the boarders of the city of CHICAGO.

I found this out the hard way while being unemployed for almost a year. some dept within the city called me for an interview. no mention was made about the residency requirement at that time. They decided to pop that one on me as I walked into the interview. I told them I could not move to the city in the 60 (or 90) day time frame because I was on just unemployment and by that time had NO savings to speak of. I was literally sucking air for money at that time.

I expended valuable time and money for nothing. the interview never even got off of the gound as I turned around and left 30 seconds after I arrived.

this could have been avoided by informing me on the phone so I could have told them I could ot meet the residency requiements right on the phone. and to boot this was smack in the middle of the school year so my young daughter would ahve been affected too.

[Dips]

His donating a kidney has absolutely nothing to do with school officials wanting him to move. The two are entirely unrelated!

You noticed that, too, huh? I don't get how donating a kidney is "conduct unbecoming"

I think there's a lot of confusion because the article is badly written.

First, it doesn't make clear that the REAL issue is a residency requirement. We readers had to extropolate that one. And readers who had never heard of a residency requirement wouldn't have any idea what the heck was going on. That should have been made clear by the author because not everywhere *has* residency requirements.

Second, I doubt very much he's being told that donating a kidney is "conduct unbecoming." I'm sure it's something else which the article omitted along with mention of the residency requirement. It could be anything. Perhaps he lied about where he lived on his job application and that's the issue. We don't know.

Third, the teacher appears to on a crusade to exempt himself from the residency requirement. It's not clear whether he's using his case is illustrate that it's unjust and should be lifted for all city employees or if he's fine with it for everyone else but feels it shouldn't apply to him becuase he donated a kidney. There's not enough information in the article to know.

But if you read a better-written article you get more answers:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...al-workers-cps

It looks like the teacher was quiety given a waiver of the residency requirement when he was hired, but they changed their minds all of a sudden. My guess is that once he became famous other city employees would ask for waivers or question why they weren't given one. It appears he was never dishonest with them about where he lived.

The terms "conduct unbecoming" are standard boilerplate when an employee is notified by form letter that he or she has to move. So he was definitely *not* told donating a kidney was "conduct unbecoming." The form letter just has over-the-top wording about an unrelated issue.

It also appears he went to the press as a last resort after dealing with red tape for months trying to straighten this out. The press took up the story because there is a political movement afoot to lift the residency requirement. It's a very controversial issue in Chicago and elsewhere. This guy and his story are going to be a lightning rod. Of course we can't discuss the pros and cons of residency requirements here but it would make a great fratching discussion.