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I don't eat turkey, but my mom--from 50 years of cooking--says the bags are good. They keep the turkey moist.
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This is how Evil Empryss makes her turkey every year (several times a year actually, as we like turkey so she'll cook several birds over the course of the holiday season).
She makes a fine, fine bird. Moist, tender, flavorful every. single. time.
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That's really complicated and I'm on my iPhone right now but I'll try. This is my personal recipe so personal taste may vary. I don't do stuffed birds so if that's what's wanted I can't help.
You don't need an expensive Butterball for this: I get the cheapest bird I can every year and it comes out great!
Start thawing the turkey at least two days prior by putting it in the fridge. DO NOT THAW ON THE COUNTERTOP OR IN HOT WATER... unless you like roaring cases of salmonella.
Preheat oven to 325* F (or per the temp suggestion on the packaging).
Make a dry herbal rub of two tablespoons of salt and rubbed sage, one tablespoon of pepper (I use fine ground white) and ground thyme, and about a teaspoon of ground garlic. I use mostly salt and sage; the thyme and garlic should be used the least. Dump all of them into a bowl and mix together.
Open the wrapping and Make Sure to Remove the Neck and Giblets! Sometimes they're in the neck cavity so make sure to check both ends of the bird. Set giblets aside to make gravy later.
Rinse bird inside and out. If there is still ice in the bird that's not a problem, just run cool water through it for a few minutes to finish thawing it.
Put the bird in a roasting pan. Pat dry inside and out.
Using your fingers, make a gap between the flesh and the skin over each breast and also over each thigh. This can be tricky to do without tearing the skin, but you need to be able to put a pat of butter in each pocket (about half a tablespoon each). It's easier to slip the butter in if it's cold so don't take it out until you're ready to use it. You want to position the pats so they will melt over the meat while cooking.
Pour a handful of salt (regular, kosher, whatever) and rub the inside of the bird with it.
Rub the bird inside and out with butter or olive oil (your choice).
Pour some of the herb rub into your hand and pat it all over the bird. Make sure to put some inside the bird, too.
Take one white onion and cut the top off. Peel and cut it into quarters without cutting all the way through the onion. Put the onion inside the bird.
Make a tinfoil tent over the bird, making sure not to let any foil touch the bird. I don't use the roaster lids.
Put bird in preheated oven, making sure the foil doesn't touch the heating elements.
Cook for 45 minutes less than the recommended time. Take foil off and return bird to oven. Start basting bird every ten min.
This is the tricky part: if you wait for the little red plug timer to pop up, the bird will be overcooked. If you can't judge doneness by touch or the appearance of the juices (both take lots of experience) then trust a thermometer. Stick it in the thickest part of the thigh without touching the bone. Done is 165*F; I take my birds out at about 155*F and let them rest. They will finish cooking on the counter due to internal temps.
Gravy instructions will have to wait to see if anyone is interested. :-)
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Yup, Brine the bird. It makes the meat nicely seasoned without the need for basting which really doesn't add much in the flavour and makes the skin harder to crisp up.Quoth strawbabies View PostI always follow Alton Brown's recipe and brine the turkey.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/a...ey-recipe.html
Personally, I prefer to butcher the bird after the brine so I can separately cook the pieces on a rack over a pan to catch the drippings. This way when a piece is done (the white meat finishes before the dark meat) it can be pulled, allow to rest and sliced up without affecting the rest of the pieces. The only guaranteed way to ensure that all the meat is done to perfection.
To add, a reliable thermometer is a must. The pop up thing that usually comes with it is garbage because it's calibrated for the dark meat (which finishes 10 degrees F higher than the white meat.) so when it goes off, the white meat is already past overcooked.
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Mostly what others have said:
1) Don't stuff it. You might as well set a place at the table for Salmonella, or risk drying out the bird. DO put stuff in it, though. Quarter an onion and grab a handful of herbs like parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme (sing a song!) You can add a quartered lemon or apple if that's your thing. Those will flavor your bird from within without cramming the cavity full of bread paste that has to reach 165.
2) Butter the heck out of it. Soften butter and mix it with copious amounts of salt, pepper, poultry seasoning and whatever else you like. Shmear it over the skin, and UNDER the skin. You don't have to cut the skin, just find the spot by the cavity where it's loose and work your hand under it to separate it a bit. That way the flavorings and butter get to the meat as well as the skin. don't be shy with the seasoning. It has to flavor a big honking meat carcass.
3) I DO like the roasting bags for moisture and lots of tasty drippings. You tend to get soggier skin, though. Kind of your call. OR if you have a tabletop roaster, they are great for moist birds, and tend to cook them pretty fast. And it frees up your oven for all the other goodies. My mom has one that really only comes out for whole turkeys at the holidays, but it's great.
4) Let it rest at least a half hour after it comes to temp before carving, or all your juices will be on the cutting board.
5) If you don't use the giblets for gravy or for someone's snack, your four footed friends will enjoy them greatly. Save the neck for stock.
6) Speaking of which, you save the carcass! Great soup, and you don't have to worry about picking the bones clean cuz they'll flavor the broth and you can pick them off for eating with the soup.
7) Send me some. I love home roasted turkey.
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I've done at least one turkey a year for the past 37 years and can heartily re-recommend several of these tips. Defrost completely. Remove neck and giblets. Cook the stuffing separately. Start high, breast up, flip and turn down heat. (Keep an eye on the breast - if it looks soggy or not as crisp as you'd like, bring it back up for the last fifteen or so.) Before the 'drippings' really get going, I usually pour some water into the bottom of the pan to prevent smoking. Rest well (Again, breast down.) after cooking.
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Probably the most important thing safety wise is a meat thermometer. If your bird has one of those little plastic pop-up things, don't trust it. While I've never seen one come up early, I've seen plenty come up late, or not at all.
I usually use a garlic and pepper rub under the skin. You could add some salt to that, but I usually brine my birds, so I don't bother.
Rinse your bird well, and then dry it well with paper towels inside and out. Drier skin crisps better.
I've tried aromatics and onions in the body cavity several times and don't think it adds nearly as much as a rub under the skin; ymmv.
Use clean oven mitts or heavy kitchen towel to maneuver your bird. Dropping it from burned fingers is a bummer (
) and they wash out just fine.
Woot! Free turkey!
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I always follow Alton Brown's recipe and brine the turkey.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/a...ey-recipe.html
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Yes, they do; I've used them. Keeps the turkey moist, lessens cleanup.Quoth MoonCat View PostDo they sell roasting bags where you are? I think Reynolds makes them. These work great.
Since there are only four of us in my family, I usually cook the turkey breast in the crockpot for Thanksgiving, and we still have lots of meat left over. But as you've got a whole turkey, that obviously won't work.
There are many recipe sites online; I'm sure you can find creative uses for leftovers on one of them. You can portion leftovers in freezer ziplock bags and freeze them until you want to use them.
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I sometimes make stock with the bones and scraps when I roast a turkey and the neck gets tossed into the soup pot with the other bits.Quoth Luna Baby View PostI use the giblets in my gravy but no one in my house eats the neck so that gets discarded.
Oh, yes, and I'd also recommend not cooking your stuffing inside the turkey. It's entirely too easy to not have the middle get properly cooked through. That, and cooking the stuffing in its own pan gives it a lovely golden crust that's just a tiny bit crunchy.Last edited by Kittish; 10-04-2014, 11:18 AM.
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I learned by starting with just a breast but now cook at least 2 whole birds each year, one at Thanksgiving and another at Christmas. Grandma taught me to rub the bird with butter (the real stuff, not margarine) and then to cover lightly. I bake it usually about 1/2-3/4 hr per pound at around 200 degrees (F) for the time it takes to cook. I do use a baster and bring the juices up and drizzle over the bird throughout the cooking process. You can leave the foil off the whole bird and only cover the wings and legs if you choose. Those parts tend to overcook very easily. It does need time to 'rest' once you have completed the baking process, usually 1/2 or so prior to serving.
I have seen others use the cooking bags with great success. I've just never tried them since I use Grandma's method.
I do not recommend cooking the turkey with stuffing inside for your first time. Too much risk if you don't quite get it cook well enough.
Good luck to you; I'm sure you'll do fine.
One other thing to remember--don't forget to check inside the neck area and the body cavity for the actual neck and "giblets". Those can be cooked along side the bird, but not before you remove them from the packaging. I use the giblets in my gravy but no one in my house eats the neck so that gets discarded.
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Can I make a small recommendation? Put bacon on it.
It's something that's always done with chicken or turkey in my family. Keeps the meat moist because the bacon drips into the turkey and stops the skin burning. Also you end up with nice crispy bacon at the end.
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I always cook my turkey breast side down for the entire cooking time, then flip it over for the last half hour to hour to get some browning (roasting bags help a LOT with this method). If you don't care about the skin being all pretty and brown you can skip flipping for the last little bit. Every single one comes out juicy, tender, and very nearly falling off the bones. The cooking time/temp sound reasonable.
The liquid in the bottom of the pan is terrific base for gravy, if there's any significant fat skim that off then just mix in a bit of cornstarch (about 1 teaspoon of corn starch per cup of liquid you're turning into gravy, mixed with just enough cold water to dissolve it) and heat that, stirring frequently, til the gravy thickens up. It should be right near, but not quite at the point of coming to a boil.
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I like to cook my stuffing in a seperate pan. I think the texture is better and it's safer too, plus the turkey cooks faster.
The butterball site is a good idea, use a meat thermometer to check the temperature of the turkey, that way you don't over or under cook it. I like to just baste it with the pan drippings, put a bit of foil over the top if it looks like it's getting too brown. Then make gravy with the pan drippings while it's resting
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Do they sell roasting bags where you are? I think Reynolds makes them. These work great. In goes a tbsp or two of flour, in goes the turkey; poke a few holes in the bag so it can't explode and tie the bag loosely with the little tie included in the package. Roast in the bag; contrary to popular belief, it does NOT dry the bird out; it keeps most of the steam in so the bird is moist and juicy. We've used these many times with turkeys and chickens and they always come out delicious.
Or, trying checking out butterball.com They have turkey roasting tips.
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Pretty close. 347F ^_^
As with many meats, turkey is an item that benefits from "Low and Slow" (low temp/slow cook (long duration))
That does sound about right -- Tho you may wish to *consider* raising it to 200-210C (around 390-400F) just for that final "blast" part. Again, use a meat thermometer (a wise investment anyway!) first, if you can.Last edited by EricKei; 10-04-2014, 12:03 AM.
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Clarify - 175 Celsius. I think Fahrenheit is about double?
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