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  • #31
    Oh, that's wonderful of them. And very appropriate for the Islamic faith, as I understand it. (Not personally Muslim, just done some basic 'comparitive religion' study.)

    And there's nothing that I know of in Judaism, Christianity or Islam that's inherently against any of the other two religions: their main disagreement is about whether a key two people were/were not prophets/messiahs. Set that aside as 'a discussion to be tabled until after the terrorist threat is over' and the three faiths are quite compatible.
    Seshat's self-help guide:
    1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
    2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
    3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
    4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

    "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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    • #32
      Quoth Seshat View Post
      And there's nothing that I know of in Judaism, Christianity or Islam that's inherently against any of the other two religions: their main disagreement is about whether a key two people were/were not prophets/messiahs. Set that aside as 'a discussion to be tabled until after the terrorist threat is over' and the three faiths are quite compatible.
      Admittedly not an authoritative source, but if you've read "Executive Orders" by Tom Clancy, there's a scene where the guard kills the nun who escorted the other (infected with ebola) nun on her way to an experimental treatment (actually, and unknown to anyone in her order, to "harvest" the ebola virus for a biological attack). The guard mentally compares the strictures of the nun's order to the principals of Islam, and doesn't see any significant differences. In the end, the guard has no qualms about the killing (while she's praying - "she is talking to her God - and now she is doing so more directly") because he feels that he has truly sent a soul to Allah.
      Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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      • #33
        Quoth Seshat View Post
        Oh, that's wonderful of them. And very appropriate for the Islamic faith, as I understand it. (Not personally Muslim, just done some basic 'comparitive religion' study.)

        And there's nothing that I know of in Judaism, Christianity or Islam that's inherently against any of the other two religions: their main disagreement is about whether a key two people were/were not prophets/messiahs. Set that aside as 'a discussion to be tabled until after the terrorist threat is over' and the three faiths are quite compatible.
        It is a good deal more complicated then that.....

        No, I promised to fratch on fratching. Sadly, with me moving, I have not had the time to get over there. Please send my regards, I will be returning there soon (hehehehe).

        I will have write that (extremely fun ) dissertation another day.
        I might be crazy, but I'm not Insane.

        What? You don't play with flamethrowers on the weekends? You are strange.

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        • #34
          Just thought I'd let everyone know, they've started to remove the floral tributes that were placed around Martin Place (site of the siege). From my understanding, they're going to put them into a place for the longer-term use of the two victims families. The two victims have had their funerals today and apparently flowers from the coffin of one of them will be left at the cafe.

          Meanwhile, the nutjobs funeral service has gone ahead as quietly as possible. Given that Muslim tradition dictates a burial/cremation (not sure which) shortly after death, the fact that they've done this for a week shows that even the Muslims don't want him. There was talk of the state having to foot the bill if nobody showed up, but apparently someone did eventually claim the body.

          This is what Martin Place looked like prior to the removal of the flowers.

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          Now queen of USSR-Land...

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