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  • Was I Sucky?

    And no, it doesn't involve customers.

    I have a friend...well....I've taken to find him quite annoying since he went on disability from work and started Facebook and Yahoo and text message stalking all of his friends.....while we are sleeping during the day I should point out....but still a friend.

    Anyway...I felt I really had to call this guy out on his bullshit. He's been on long term disability for over 6 months now, I really feel for the guy, but I think he's making things up for attention.

    A couple of years ago, he was very overweight, for his height and his body type. He was probably 250 pounds. (I'm not saying 250 pounds is ZOMG FAT. My father is 6'4 and nearly 300 pounds, he's just a tad overweight. My friend is about 5'9 and a smaller framed guy.)

    Before he went out of comission, he lost quite a bit of weight and ended up looking pretty healthy. Then his health went to hell and his first few months of his disability claim, he gained nearly all of that weight back again. Then as time went on, he started eating better again, going to physical therapy, but wasn't able to do extreme cardio or extreme exercise.

    For the past few months, since winter anyway, once a week, every week, on Facebook, he writes that "I lost another 10 lbs this week!" and a few days ago, he wrote "In the past two years I've lost 230 pounds!"......

    This is where I call bullshit. If he lost that much weight, he'd weigh as much as an elementary school kid or a very anorexic girl.

    And even if the 230 lbs is a lie, even at 10 lbs a week, he'd be down to my weight about now. It just doesn't add up.

    When he doesn't make status updates about losing weight, it's about working out at the gym.

    I had to do it. I just felt the need to. I had to call him out on it. What I pretty much said was:

    If he is supposedly too weak to go to work, if he cannot do a job requiring standing and lifting for 8 hours, explain to me why he can go to the gym almost every day and seem to be able to do workouts that help him lose 10 lbs a week.

    I just had to. It sounds like such bullshit. When I had an eating disorder as a young teen, I wasn't even losing 10 lbs a week.

    Was I a sucky friend?
    You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

  • #2
    The only person who will think that you're sucky for doing that is the offending friend. Even then, it might only be temporary if your friend decides to wise up and start being more truthful about things.

    While he may have very well "lost" 230 pounds, he conveniently forgot to include the fact that he gained all of the original weight back between the two phases in which he was practicing healthier habits.

    All in all, I say that you did a good job in calling him out.
    Osoroshii kangae nimo osoware masu...

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    • #3
      Thank you for your kind words.

      It might not be a lie if he said he lost 230 lbs in his entire life and every diet he ever went on. It'd be a fair statement for me to say that throughout my entire diet life, I've probably lost 50 pounds. Just not all at one time or on one diet!
      You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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      • #4
        I have to agree with Iris. But then I'm also they blunt type of person who will call bullshit if needed. 10 lbs a week? I don't think so, unless you're on the biggest loser, or decided to take up an eating disorder (no joke intended re: eating disorders. Complete seriousness here) Just not healthy. And does he LOOK like he's been losing weight? I mean surely someone would've noticed/said something if he lost 40 lbs in a month.

        I agree that it probably is 230 lbs over the course of all his dieting. hey, if I go by that rate, I've lost over 100 lbs!! I just happened to have gained 80 lbs back in between... >.>

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        • #5
          Quoth Iris Kojiro View Post
          While he may have very well "lost" 230 pounds, he conveniently forgot to include the fact that he gained all of the original weight back between the two phases in which he was practicing healthier habits.
          That is exactly what I was thinking.

          Also, 10 pounds a week...consistently? Sorry, but I think not. If he is, he's not doing anything healthy.
          I don't go in for ancient wisdom
          I don't believe just 'cause ideas are tenacious
          It means that they're worthy - Tim Minchin, "White Wine in the Sun"

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          • #6
            this may make me sound like a cold hearted bitch, but I would have a very hard time being friends with someone who can work out at the gym all the time but can't work.

            Sorry, to me that is as bad as being a welfaerie.

            Needless to say, I agree with you!

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            • #7
              I would've pointed out that had he really been going to the gym that much he would be gaining weight. As long as you do even a bit of strength training, your muscle growth will keep up with or exceed your fat loss, in raw lbs, mainly because of the difference in density and weight.
              "Darling, you are a bitch. I'm joining the Navy." -Cinema Guy 4/30/2009

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              • #8
                Were you bitchy?
                Yes.

                Was it totally deserved?
                Absolutely.

                Good for you for not tolerating his BS and being brave enough to say what I'm sure others were thinking.

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                • #9
                  Quoth lupo pazzesco View Post
                  if I go by that rate, I've lost over 100 lbs!!
                  I lost 1.3 pounds this morning, just by going to the toilet.

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                  • #10
                    My ex has lost 200+ pounds since I met her (39 years)...

                    Still weighs about the same as always... 5'6" / 125 lbs. ...

                    8 kids will do that to you
                    I am not an a**hole. I am a hemorrhoid. I irritate a**holes!
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                    • #11
                      Quoth Shards View Post
                      I would've pointed out that had he really been going to the gym that much he would be gaining weight. As long as you do even a bit of strength training, your muscle growth will keep up with or exceed your fat loss, in raw lbs, mainly because of the difference in density and weight.
                      Long way from reality, actually. When you are losing weight, you're losing both muscle and fat (and some other stuff). If you strength train and work out well, you can reduce your muscle loss down to something like 2% of your total weight loss.

                      But you're still losing muscle.

                      It's virtually impossible to both lose fat AND gain muscle at the same time. Not literally impossible, but it certainly takes a hell of a lot more than "do even a bit of strength training". Certainly it'll help make the loss be from actual fat, but it's not going to build muscle.

                      And I agree, if he's regularly posting 10lbs a week, it's not healthy. It's also not fat. Unless you're extremely obese, you do not have 10lbs of fat to lose each week. I just did the calculations for someone online this morning who was talking about 10lbs in two weeks, and it would have required that she eat 2,500 calories a day LESS than what she needs to maintain. Since most people don't need even 2,500 just to maintain at all, that means eat absolutely nothing whatsoever. For two weeks. Plus find some miracle "negative calorie" foods. And that was 10lbs over two weeks, not one.

                      No way in hell a roughly 250lb guy is losing 10lb of fat in a week.

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                      • #12
                        i had a trainer tell me this once my mother has lost and gain the same 15 pounds ten times and her clasim to fames that shes lost 150 pounds, never midn she gained it back then lost it again, she 'lost'150 pounds.
                        and oyu can lose 10 pounds a weeks, gain it back, lose it again my buddy at work does that.

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                        • #13
                          Well he finally wrote back (couldn't check it until this morning).

                          "Oh I'm not at the gym, I can't even be on my feet much...just losing weight consistently" or something to that effect.

                          Ok so no gym...how the hell are you losing weight then? By being off your feet?
                          You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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                          • #14
                            There's a way to lose weight without going to the gym?!?! Hot damn, sign me up! Lose weight while watching TV and staying off my feet? SOLD!!

                            >.>

                            <.<

                            >.<

                            What PLANET is he living on??

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                            • #15
                              ...hmm... if we are going by his standards.....I've lost somewhere around....100lbs over the course of my life so far... mostly lose 20 here...gain it back lose it again etc....

                              Good for you calling him out!
                              "I'm not smiling because I'm happy. I'm smiling because every time I blink your head explodes!"
                              -Red

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