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  • Life Imitating Art: Sports Version.

    Sports fans here may well remember a commercial a while back (I don't remember what for) wherein you see a lot of Jets fans in an obviously Jets bar rooting for (who else?) the Jets. The play by play indicates something going well for the Jets opponent, the Dolphins. At which point a sole Dolphins fan stands up out of the crowd cheering....and everyone looks at him with death glares. Unless your a Jets fan, you kind of have to feel for the guy.

    Yesterday, *I* was that guy. I was in an Eagles bar, surrounded by loads of Eagles fans, watching the Raiders-Eagles game, and while not everyone there was rooting for the Eagles (there were some Giants fans), I was without question the only Raiders fan. And wearing my Raiders jersey and cap, I was pretty obvious about that. Oh, and whooping it up and yelling and what not when the Raiders did well. Yeah, I wasn't hiding from anyone.

    The funny thing is, everyone there came into the situation expecting the Eagles to roll over the Raiders in much the same manner as a steamroller over Wile E. Coyote. After all, the Eagles are a pretty good team, and with the exception of Week 1, the Raiders have looked downright dreadful. *I* fully expected to see the Eagles kick the snot out of the Raiders, and be verbally abused without remorse or mercy by the Eagles faithful. I went because if I didn't go, I know I would have been accused of chickening out by the Philly folks (since I work there and they all know me), and let's face it, I really wanted to be there if by some miracle, the Raiders actually won.

    Then something strange happened. In the middle of the expected blowout, a football game broke out. A competitive football game. And the Raiders actually looked like they were....what's this?.....actually playing well.

    Then something stranger happened. The Raiders actually fucking won. I was that guy from that commercial. And I have to tell you....it was very, very sweet.

    The Eagles fans were strangely....silent. Which of course they would not have been had things gone according to the expected script.

    Yeah, I'm gonna enjoy this one for a while.

    "The Customer Is Always Right...But The Bartender Decides Who Is
    Still A Customer."


  • #2
    There are rivalries which are fun and then there are rivalries that incite riots.

    Dolphins - Jets is probabaly the second strongest rivalry in all of sports next to the Red Sox and Yankees.

    I don't know of any rivalry between the Eagles and the Raiders but I'm sure it's one of the lesser aggressive ones.

    But - I'm glad your team one.
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    • #3
      There is no rivalry per se between the Eagles and the Raiders, though both are known for stereotypically rude, thuggish, psycho fans (which is only partly true). But Eagles fans are notoriously intolerant of fans of the team they are playing intruding on their "turf." Regardless, it is always amusing to be the only fan of a team when surrounded by scores of fans of the team your team is playing.

      As for the biggest rivalries in sports, I submit (in no particular order) these:

      Dolphins - Jets (NFL)
      Red Sox - Yankees (MLB)
      Dodgers - Giants (MLB)
      Eagles - Cowboys (NFL)
      Raiders - Broncos (NFL)
      Cubs - Cardinals (MLB)
      Lakers - Celtics (NBA)
      Bulls - Knicks (NBA)
      Michigan - Ohio State (NCAAF)
      Duke - North Carolina (NCAAB)
      USC - Notre Dame (NCAAF)
      Arizona - Arizona State (NCAAF)...not well known nationally, but vicious in state.
      Packers - Vikings (NFL)
      Steelers - Browns (NFL)

      I apologize to hockey fans, and fans of other sports, as I can only list the rivalries I am familiar with.

      And Draggar, as much as the Jets - Dolphins rivalry is fun, I can hardly agree with you that it is the second strongest in all of sports. Not with some of the rivalries listed above.

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      • #4
        Quoth draggar View Post
        I don't know of any rivalry between the Eagles and the Raiders but I'm sure it's one of the lesser aggressive ones.
        Nonononono, the Eagle aren't in a rivalry with the Raiders, they're in a rivalry with the Cowboys. Dallas just doesn't know about it.
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        • #5
          Couple bones to pick:

          1. The fact that you left without a scratch means those were out of the ordinary Philly fans. They are usually very rude, mean people that resort to horrible actions.
          2. Why is Oakland still using Russel? He has a QB rating of 51, isn't a rookie, and just sucks in general. Any other team would have bailed on him by now.
          3. Jets/Patriots rivalry is much bigger than Jets/Dolphins.
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          • #6
            Quoth Greenday View Post
            1. The fact that you left without a scratch means those were out of the ordinary Philly fans. They are usually very rude, mean people that resort to horrible actions.
            A few things here. First of all, that is a stereotype, it is not true for everyone. Secondly, I work at this bar, and a large portion (perhaps half) of the Eagles fans there know me, like me, and tolerate me. Third, a lot of the Philly fans that live in Key West are pretty freakin' mellow compared to their non-relocated brethren. Fourth, most of the Eagles fans there that didn't know me were tourists. Older tourists. Also mellower. Finally, I have no doubt that if I were walked into a Philly bar IN PHILLY wearing a Raiders jersey yesterday, I would not have left so unscathed. But this was not IN PHILLY. Several important things to consider.

            Quoth Greenday View Post
            2. Why is Oakland still using Russel? He has a QB rating of 51, isn't a rookie, and just sucks in general. Any other team would have bailed on him by now.
            The Raiders are not any other team, and specialize in idiocy. A lot of Raider fans are apologists for Al Davis. I am not. I think that, while he was great for the team for decades, he is doing a number on them, basically ruining them, and probably is too senile to realize it. I have said for years that the Raiders are just like Cuba....cause ain't nothin' gonna change till the old man die.

            That being said, while Russell HAS sucked this season (and sucked badly), he was not terrible in yesterday's game. His numbers were bordering on respectable. 17 for 28 passing, 224 yards, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions, and a passer rating of 68.2. Not Peyton Manning, to be sure. But not cover your eyes awful the way he was the last few games, either.

            Quoth Greenday View Post
            3. Jets/Patriots rivalry is much bigger than Jets/Dolphins.
            I wouldn't disagree with that, but in South Florida, it is all about the Jets and Fins. But then, I don't really care either way, being a Raiders fan.

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            Still A Customer."

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            • #7
              Quoth Jester View Post
              Not Peyton Manning, to be sure.
              Hey Iknow him....he played for my states team...

              talk about rilvary (not NFL just the SEC), the UT/Florida game around here is a BIG thing....its nastier if they are playing in knoxville, instead of the swamp.

              ahem...go gators! UT sucks!!!!!
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              • #8
                Quoth Jester View Post
                A few things here. First of all, that is a stereotype, it is not true for everyone. Secondly, I work at this bar, and a large portion (perhaps half) of the Eagles fans there know me, like me, and tolerate me. Third, a lot of the Philly fans that live in Key West are pretty freakin' mellow compared to their non-relocated brethren. Fourth, most of the Eagles fans there that didn't know me were tourists. Older tourists. Also mellower. Finally, I have no doubt that if I were walked into a Philly bar IN PHILLY wearing a Raiders jersey yesterday, I would not have left so unscathed. But this was not IN PHILLY. Several important things to consider.
                I guess I'm getting too used to living right outside Philly.

                Quoth Jester View Post
                The Raiders are not any other team, and specialize in idiocy. A lot of Raider fans are apologists for Al Davis. I am not. I think that, while he was great for the team for decades, he is doing a number on them, basically ruining them, and probably is too senile to realize it. I have said for years that the Raiders are just like Cuba....cause ain't nothin' gonna change till the old man die.

                That being said, while Russell HAS sucked this season (and sucked badly), he was not terrible in yesterday's game. His numbers were bordering on respectable. 17 for 28 passing, 224 yards, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions, and a passer rating of 68.2. Not Peyton Manning, to be sure. But not cover your eyes awful the way he was the last few games, either.
                At least they won. But I can't wait for that Jets/Raiders game next week!
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                • #9
                  Quoth Greenday View Post
                  At least they won. But I can't wait for that Jets/Raiders game next week!
                  Me too.


                  GO RAIDERS!

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                  Still A Customer."

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                  • #10
                    I don't even like sports, but I caught glimpses of the Redskins/Chiefs game while bowling on Sunday. That was funny.

                    'course, here it's all about college ball...because it has to be!! Seriously, Chiefs? Royals? *sigh*

                    I would definitely add KU-Mizzou to your list. KU has a lot of "rivals", but there is intense hatred for all things Missouri here. Also, in-state, KU-KState. The liberal hippies versus the military conservatives.

                    I'll start paying attention with the tournament rolls around. It was kind of fun last year....wish I'd been here the year before!
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                    • #11
                      Steelers vs. Ravens.

                      I've never gone to a game, but I've heard that fist fights break out between fans at the stadium.

                      Biggest reason seems to be that after the Colts left Baltimore a lot of people started cheering for the Steelers. Some went to being Ravens fans when they came, others stayed Steelers fans.

                      The smack talk on local radio leading up to when they play is awesome.

                      Redskins fans around here hate the Cowboys with a fiery passion.

                      And Skins fans hate Ravens fans and vice versa.

                      Last year when the Ravens played the Steelers in the AFC Championship you had my wife and I cheering for Baltimore, My buddy and his (now ex) GF cheering for Pittsburgh. It got interesting.

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                      • #12
                        I submit PSU vs Iowa State. Trust me, they riot every year in this godforsaken town.

                        And as with admin assistant, living in a college town I'm more often than not peppered with college sports, and yet, I find them far less entertaining than the pros.

                        I would submit, though, all 4 Canadian NFL teams, in no particular pairings, as any game involving two of the following: The Flames, The Canucks, The Oilers, The Canadians, will get ugly, end of story.
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                        • #13
                          Quoth Shards View Post
                          I would submit, though, all 4 Canadian NFL teams, in no particular pairings, as any game involving two of the following: The Flames, The Canucks, The Oilers, The Canadians, will get ugly, end of story.
                          I believe you meant the NHL, not the NFL.

                          And while I am not a hockey fan, I know you can't talk about "all 4" Canadian teams when there are, in fact, six of them. In addition to the four you mentioned, there are also the Ottawa Senators and the Toronto Maple Leafs. However, I cannot comment on any rivalries they may or may not have with one another, as I said earlier.

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                          Still A Customer."

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                          • #14
                            Wings - Avalanche was the rivalry of the late 90's. Not so much now that about the only players left playing from those days are Nick Lidstrom and Chris Osgood. If the Blackhawks stay better, I think the Wings-Blackhawks rivalry will be back in good form.

                            And while you are mentioning rivalries, you forgot Army-Navy.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Jester View Post
                              I believe you meant the NHL, not the NFL.

                              And while I am not a hockey fan, I know you can't talk about "all 4" Canadian teams when there are, in fact, six of them. In addition to the four you mentioned, there are also the Ottawa Senators and the Toronto Maple Leafs. However, I cannot comment on any rivalries they may or may not have with one another, as I said earlier.
                              ... Wow... Now I feel really stupid for having let those slip my mind. Goddamnit.
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