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  • *whimper* - epically long and ranty

    So I spent yesterday cannning peaches. Not the whole day - I was only at the church were were going to be doing this for 11 hours, and the other women showed up about half an hour after I did. The catch is this: when another woman had said she'd been interested in canning peaches with me, I wanted to do a bushel together. Instead three of us did three and two thirds bushels. Hint, that's way more per person than I bargained for. Oh, and she did pint jars (they're way more work than the quart jars, because filling takes more than half the time when you're doing smaller jars).

    It's the woman who I was originally going to be canning with that's driving me crazy. It started fairly small. She said that she'd order number 2 peaches for us from market. Great, saves us money, and because she has a car it makes getting the peaches a lot easier. But apparently "ok, we should get a bushel" meant "I want to do a whole bushel". Note that even had she gotten a half bushel for me I still would have been doing way more than I wanted to, because the other two women were doing full bushels, and we had an extra half bushel we're doing for one of her friends.

    I've known her for years, and it's always little things like this. Sure, it's an honest mistake. But when I go "hey, that's way more than I wanted, I don't have enough jars for that" I would appreciate, at the very least, an apology. "Oh, it looks like we're doing a lot of work" isn't a good response.

    I know I sound really silly with what I've posted, but she grates after a while. She tends to skirt the line of what is socially acceptable. But on the far side of it. She likes to operate in the space between what people mind, and what people will actually bother to do something about. And, to make it worse, she's one of those horrible people who refuses to argue. I can't be too hard on that, because my primary conflict resolution style is avoidance. But I will apologize when something goes wrong. Heck, the fact that I admit that there is a conflict puts me ahead of her. So basically, if you do want to call her out on something you're SOL unless you're willing to do what is normally considered rude. (Fortunately the people we know in common are very socially aware, so when Jackdaw calls her out on stuff the worst that happens is people go "oh, I don't care", no one ever thinks he's being a jerk about it, because they can see that she started it. I suspect, though, that in the general public this also helps her get her way, because it makes the people who disagree with her, or get upset with her, less sympathetic to most people.)

    I'm whimpering because I had to spend all day with her yesterday (and she did the "what do you think" bit, which is a "bit" because she's one of those people where you'll end up with what she wants somehow being the only option. Made worse by the fact that she won't even just keep arguing with you until you agree, like my SIL does). And she's coming by this evening to deliver the peaches. (I managed to convince her that no, we can't move them before we've cooled, because that's two years' worth of canned peaches that we'll be ruining). I don't want to have to deal with her.

    Oh, and this is made worse by the fact that she's in training as a pastor. So a) she, more than most, should know better and b) she would have had enough training in how people work to be able to pull this stuff even more effectively. She just doesn't listen. She decides how things "should" work, and then ignores anything that doesn't support that. And her worldview is odd, to say the least. She seems to act under the assumption that every one has a car (we live in a city) and money (she wants the next social to be a pool hall, or even a restaurant. Seriously, she thinks we all have money to eat out?) She probably thinks that 21 quart jars of peaches is less than a two-year supply (which is disturbing, as she has gestational diabetes, and thinks that she's careful about what she's eating). I'm tired of having to adjust to her world view. I'm tired of having to bring my own food anytime I can't eat meat and we're going to their place. (I understand that making two main dishes is hard, but seriously: there's lots of low meat and vegetarian dishes that everyone in the group can digest.)

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    Last edited by Magpie; 09-03-2010, 11:16 PM. Reason: length warning in the title

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    *gives Magpie some cookies, too* Gah, that sounds awful. I don't think you sound silly at all. Maybe it's a "minor" example, but it shows some scary stuff about her thought processes. If she made a mistake, she should own up to it instead of acting like there's no problem and blatantly going on her way while completely ignoring what you want and feel. ESPECIALLY when she's in training to be a pastor. She is going to be a rotten pastor if she keeps that up--she needs to be able to listen to people and respond in the appropriate manner. Which doesn't entail acting like "I know what's best for you because it's what I want" and running roughshod over everyone. And that's a TON of peaches, Good Gawd. And with the food stuff, yeah making two main dishes is hard, but when you invite someone over, you should be taking into account their dietary needs. It's one thing when it's just a preference, but when you literally cannot eat something, the hostess has to take that into consideration and deal with it, instead of acting like you should just buck up and not eat. Or whatever.

    Would you like some more cookies? Or brownies? Or Star Crunch? [Mmm, I love Star Crunch...]

    But yeah, this woman sounds evil. Not in an epic demon kind of way, but in the "aaaah I want to cry and then rip her eyeballs out" kind of way. ...That sounds really disturbing still, doesn't it. Sorry about that.

    "And so all the night-tide, I lie down by the side of my darling, my darling, my life and my bride!"
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    • #3
      Aww, I'm sorry!
      My in-laws are just getting to where they accomodate for my dietary needs, and I lived with them for six months this winter!
      Geez, that's a ton of peaches! Would she notice if one went missing and came to me?
      Lady is a jerk, plain and simple. She apparently cannot comprehend that there is something outside of herself she needs to consider, and therefore you shouldn't put up with her crap. Just tell her what is going on, and if she refuses to acknowledge it, then stop being with/around her. I know it's harsh, but it's the only way for people like her to learn. And she's training to be a pastor? One of the main responsibilities of that is to listen and help others! Crazy lady is going to be a crappy pastor.
      I'm sending you some love, fortune cookies, and chocolate graham crackers. I have fudge rounds too, do you want any?
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      • #4
        It's been determined that a lot of the problem is a straightforward personality clash, she and I are just completely wrong types. (I think we're both ENFP's, except that I'm not really because of engineering). Also non-verbal communication is her strongest method. I have Asperger's. So it's not entirely in my mind that there's problems there.

        The communication problem with how many peaches to bring wasn't just an "unclear about 'for me' vs 'for all of us'". Apparently there were other times that she asked about them, and (this is terrifying by the way) I don't remember them. And I don't just mean that I completely forgot. I mean that even when I was told about when these happened (other witnesses, not just her), I can't remember it, even vaguely. But, this happened when we were helping them move. Ok, so maybe I was more zoned out than I ought to have been (I also can't hear her well. I know my hearing's bad, but I have a really hard time with her), but who tries to plan something while you're moving? I understand that she was standing around not able to do anything (she's not allowed to lift anything until she gives birth), but the rest of us were doing stuff, and it's too chaotic a time to plan stuff anyhow.

        Apparently when she and Jackdaw were talking she mentioned me not answering a couple of times on Thursday as an example. What she conveniently didn't mention is that she was a) asking a question that I oughtn't have had to answer and b) she did this at 17:00 (for those keeping track at home, we'd been there over seven hours at the time). Speaking of bad times to plan.

        And I don't want to have to deal with this. I would really rather just have to work to improve myself, she wants to do this properly, and I don't have the mental strength right now to deal with proper interactions. I really need to take conflict resolution courses. I've only taken oneish. (It was an introductory conflict studies course, so it doesn't really count, it contained such novel ideas as "peace is more than the abscence of fighting". I also had marriage prep, and my social coaching.) Admissions like that make me really appreciate the no flaming rules though . One reason I'm not taking more, though, is that these courses tend to operate on lines like "identify your feelings", "make appropriate eye-contact" and skip over the useful stuff like "how to identify feelings" and "what is appropriate?". I'm actually confused why people who can actually learn from those courses need them. Someone will have to explain that to me some day.

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