Surefire Way to Piss a Mother Off

[Amina516]

Seraph, I am SO sorry this happened to your family. I felt ill when I read your story. Please, stay on them (school), get the Cops involved and follow through.

[Lady_Pigeon]

to both.

to all the adult idiots involved.

Keep us posted, and let us know if you need anything.

[CaroPhoenix]

I haven't post anything in this thread yet because every time I read an update of sorts, my blood pressure goes through the roof!

If you need someone to talk to, I'm here.

I'm praying something happens and proper counseling (and lots of love on your part) is offered to your daughter.

[Seraph]

Again, thank you everyone for the support.

Another weird thing happened. My mother mentioned what happened to a classmate of hers, and the girl said "...The boy's name wouldn't happen to be <name>, would it?" Mom was like, well, yes it is. "I know his family..." and then she walked off and wouldn't talk about it anymore. My mother was asking who they were, and why she said that, but she literally would not talk any more. Something is WAY up. My daughter's teacher acted the SAME way. So I have no idea who this family is....but red flags are going hardcore.

My daughter, thankfully, seems to be okay about everything. She is acting normally, very bouncy, and seems to have nearly forgotten about it. Pretty much, that's kinda what we want to happen, so it doesn't scar her or anything. We're just pretending around her like nothing happened, so that maybe she just puts it out of her mind.

The police were at her school when we went to talk to them, so they are aware of the matter.

A good finding though...albeit I hate typing this, because it brings back the thought that I had earlier. She most likely did not do what we thought she might have. I finally broke down and asked her, and she said that she didn't put "thing in her mouth", but that he tried to get her to multiple times. So I'm extremely relieved to hear that, even though it still means he tried. Such a small thing, but I cried when she told me, I was so relieved.

All we can do right now though, is at this point, press the administration to investigate fully, and to keep a close eye on my daughter to make sure things are okay, and that no other incidents occur.

Ironically, my mother threw a fit that I posted about this, and ripped into me for "telling others about it". I caught her on the phone no less than three times talking to friends about it, and asked her just how many people she'd told. Stopped her cold, she actually said "touche" and left. <.<

[XCashier]

Another weird thing happened. My mother mentioned what happened to a classmate of hers, and the girl said "...The boy's name wouldn't happen to be <name>, would it?" Mom was like, well, yes it is. "I know his family..." and then she walked off and wouldn't talk about it anymore. My mother was asking who they were, and why she said that, but she literally would not talk any more. Something is WAY up. My daughter's teacher acted the SAME way. So I have no idea who this family is....but red flags are going hardcore.

Ooh, yes they are. Why is your mom's friend refusing to talk? Something's definitely scary wrong here.

Ironically, my mother threw a fit that I posted about this, and ripped into me for "telling others about it". I caught her on the phone no less than three times talking to friends about it, and asked her just how many people she'd told. Stopped her cold, she actually said "touche" and left. <.<

You both needed support and information, so it makes sense to cast the net wide to get as much as possible.

I'm glad your daughter didn't do as the boy demanded, but he still needs to be stopped before he harms anyone else. Also glad that the police do know about it. We're all praying for a satisfactory resolution before things get any worse.

to Seraph and daughter.

[Seraph]

Ooh, yes they are. Why is your mom's friend refusing to talk? Something's definitely scary wrong here.

Very. Like I mentioned, her teacher shut up about the family as well right after the "not again" thing. I pressed her to tell me more, but she refused, and said she was "bound not to tell". Husband and I are jokingly calling it 'the Mayberry Illuminati'.

There actually used to be a class list online for the school so you could see who was in the class. That list has now been removed.... So I'm wondering if I can just simply call up and find out who is in it, or if they're going to try and pull some "privacy policy" over it. I'm definitely curious now as to who his parents are, and possibly if these are very well-connected people, or just the well known neighborhood trash. Signs are pointing to the first, unfortunately.

Not sure if I want to terribly poke THAT bee's nest, they could make our lives, and my daughter's, very, very difficult if so. I had a friend's mother who did something similar when I was a child, and only recently have I realized just why they moved away. I'm not sure I want to put my kids through that sort of hell, so I'm going to be walking very softly, but carrying a BFG. <.<

[Buglady]

Dear God. Hugs to you and kidlet, Seraph - but I'm really worried about that little boy as well. At five years old, he did not come up with that idea on his own; the odds are that he has been through it, and worse, himself, and he needs help.

That's not something the school or police are going to want to admit, even to themselves, because nobody wants to think about having missed/avoided dealing with it for so long; so they'll continue to either demonize the kid (he's *5*!), or try to ignore the entire situation. That's basic human nature, sadly, but it can be overcome.

You have a chance to do something very important, here. Please keep poking that bee's nest.

[Seshat]

My daughter, thankfully, seems to be okay about everything. She is acting normally, very bouncy, and seems to have nearly forgotten about it. Pretty much, that's kinda what we want to happen, so it doesn't scar her or anything. We're just pretending around her like nothing happened, so that maybe she just puts it out of her mind.

Oh, thank GOD. This is wonderful; as long as it doesn't mean she's buried it. She will probably need to tell a police/child services investigator, and yes, request one specialised in interviewing child witnesses.

I'd also keep a counsellor handy, perhaps have her talk with a counsellor a few times so she knows her - JUST 'getting to know you' talk, not about this topic unless your daughter chooses to bring it up - so that if it does become something later, there's a counsellor she already knows who can help her.

Ironically, my mother threw a fit that I posted about this, and ripped into me for "telling others about it". I caught her on the phone no less than three times talking to friends about it, and asked her just how many people she'd told. Stopped her cold, she actually said "touche" and left. <.<

YOU need support too. And who are we going to tell? I have no idea where you live IRL, or what your name is, or what school your child goes to. I'm anonymous. You're anonymous. Doesn't make me any less real, or my care any less valid; but it does mean I can't gossip and have it get back to your town and complicate the situation.


Speaking of complications: it's up to you whether to poke at the bee's nest, especially if the boy's family is deeply connected. It'll be you and your family bearing the consequences.
But I do recommend ensuring that the encounter is recorded. That way when someone IS ready to accept the consequences, the records are there. (probably.)

[Dreamstalker]

I am so glad she didn't actually do what the boy wanted; not much of a comfort, but it's something good out of all this.

If the class list was up before this incident but has now been removed, that might be worth mentioning to the cops. They should be able to get the list if they want it.

Very, very strange that somebody knows the family but suddenly refuses to discuss it. They don't have to be bigwigs, just to have done something noteworthy (doesn't have to be something good).

[Dasota]

I don't know what it's like for kids now, but even when I was 5, I knew first and last name of all the kids in my class, is there anyway to ask her the name of the kid? If the last name pings anything it might help you figure out why everyone is being so tight lipped about it.

Also, good on your kidlet for coming straight to you and telling you what was up. Great head on her shoulders, and great parenting on you and hubby's part. I'm glad it wasn't anything worse, and I hope that you get to the bottom of what's going on, and hopefully find out who this kid's family is.

[Zellie Crescent]

If you haven't gone to the cops yet do so now, it seems clear (to me at least) that the school isn't gonna do shit to help find this kid and his family to fix this.

[Mikkel]

Dear God. Hugs to you and kidlet, Seraph - but I'm really worried about that little boy as well. At five years old, he did not come up with that idea on his own; the odds are that he has been through it, and worse, himself, and he needs help.

I'm glad someone else expressed my thoughts. Your daughter of course come first, but that little boy is probably worse off .

[kansasgal]

My son was solicited by the employee of our local grocery store (we have since moved) and we went through the same thing with the store..the manager was like "He's only done it once.." but there were a lot of reports on him. They wanted to settle quietly, I ended up calling the police and he is in jail (actually, Kansas has the Sexually Violent Predator program, so he got out of jail and is in the mental hospital for life because they fear he will reoffend).

I understand exactly how you feel, and how you are worried for your daughter. Because of the publicity, my son was reminded several times of the issue (it made the news, etc in our town at the time due to it being an employee) and we did get him counseling.

The first thing the police did after taking our report was to have an SVU officer interview my son, and she was the one who put the case forward. I would suggest the same to you if possible, because the SVU officers are trained in how to deal with the situation in a non-threatening way.

Definitely call the police and report it. Something is up, and the school knows it. There is something more going on here.

[42_42_42]

If you aren't satisfied with how the school is handling it, you can call the superintendent and the school board, too. In fact, I would anyway, simply because of the TA's disturbing behavior.

Please keep us updated on what happens! I'm very concerned for that little boy. Glad your daughter is coping with this situation so well.

[Moirae]

There's no words.... I hope at least one person is up for prison time, and the fact that none of them pursued this means that everyone who knew about it but did nothing needs to be fired. Like now. Fines, jail time, and more.

Seraph, you have amazing self control.

I am really really glad your daughter didn't do what he wanted her to do.

Man, I am so angry right now there aren't even words...